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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 12:59 AM
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Larry Johnson: Why John Murtha is Right!
Edited on Sat Nov-19-05 01:03 AM by understandinglife
John Murtha's courageous call for American troops to leave Iraq is the right policy at the right time. The Bush chickenhawks already are impugning Murtha's patriotism, but when you have a purple heart and a bronze star compared to a President with a spotty attendance record with the National Guard and a Vice President with five deferments, that dog don't hunt.

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Our best alternative is to withdraw from Iraq and establish covert relations with the secular insurgents. Over the long run our interest as a nation is to prevent the religious jihadists from consolidating their control over Iraq and forging a closer relationship with Iran. The question is not, will there be a civil war? A civil war is already underway. Rather, the proper question is what can we do as a nation to protect our longterm interests?

We have two key long term strategic interests. First, we want to promote a secular society. The current Iraqi constiturion enshrines the Quran as the law of the land and encourages sectarian strife. Second, we must enlist the support of Russia, China, Europe, and the Muslim nations in rooting out and destroying the jihadists. Most of that effort can be handled with intelligence and law enforcement work rather than military operations. The Beatles had it right--we can get by with some help from our friends.

Given these facts, John Murtha is right. We must withdraw, sooner rather than later, from Iraq. Otherwise, we will find ourselves in a quagmire reminiscent of Vietnam. Only this time, the jihadists who are carrying out urban combat operations will be equipped and trained through their experience to carry out future attacks against our interests around the world. John Murtha and Chuck Hagel are patriots who understand this dilemma. We have lit a fuze on the next generation of jihadist terrorism. We must douse the fuze with water, and put it out sooner rather than later.

Link:
http://noquarter.typepad.com/my_weblog/2005/11/why_john_murtha.html


We Must get our troops out of the Iraqi Civil War using sound and expedited logistics.


Peace.

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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 01:07 AM
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1. We are doing a wonderful job in Iraq:
training the next generation of terrorists.

Only this time, the jihadists who are carrying out urban combat operations will be equipped and trained through their experience to carry out future attacks against our interests around the world.



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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 01:09 AM
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2. Yes, Larry has a way of getting to the heart-of-the-matter.
Peace.
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 01:31 AM
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5. It would have been more cost effective
to just give Al Queada a few billion dollars to set up training camps.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 01:19 AM
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3. Larry Johnson is always right on
nicely done!
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 08:35 AM
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6. In_deed!!
Peace.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 01:22 AM
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4. this is just sickening
when I read this, I find myself baffled at the ignorance of this administration.:shrug:
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 08:52 PM
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8. Baffled especially that the ignorance is purely willful in nature --
They seek to maintain their policy of illusions at all costs.

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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 08:43 PM
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7. Kick
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 09:01 PM
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9. TPM: "why are the families of Bush, Cheney, Wolfowitz, Delay, Hastert, ...
... Rumsfeld et. al. not on the front lines? As we say in Marketing, an anecdote is worth a thousand data points."

http://www.tpmcafe.com/story/2005/11/19/192645/95


Time to kick some butt.

Various folk's insights being debated about what to do about "the Republicans" and, especially, their instant attack on Rep Murtha.

Time to kick some butt.

We have the knowledge. We are way faster and more articulate. We just need to do one thing, more and more, in a laser focused manner.

Kick the shit out of these people every time they speak.

Force the message into the media. Do as Senator Reid and Rep Murtha and Gov Dean have done in the past, but do it persistently.

Label the Republicans - NEOCONSTERS. Make it clear they are a MEGA-CRIME SYNDICATE.

CRIME. CRIME. CRIME. == Republican == NEOCONSTER.

Be totally unforgiving of the neoconsters and their media propaganda machine.

Use all the horror and crimes these folk have committed against them.

FIGHT while we can still do it with our intellects, our pens, our words.


Peace.
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 09:07 PM
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10. love Larry Johnson

recommend
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LiberalInGeorgia2005 Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 09:33 PM
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11. The republicans are yet again....
showing they really do not care abouts vets. Republicans are slamming another one in Murtha.

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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 10:27 PM
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12. If Jesus Christ came back today...
If Jesus Christ came back today as a Democrat, the Republicans would crucify him too.

Doug D.
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