Is this torture ??

[kentuck]

If I were to tie you to a board shaped like a see-saw and lowered your head under the water and asked you a question or two? For example, "Were you part of the al Qaeda and did you know Osama bin Laden...gurgle...and did you not visit him at his cave in the mountains and take weapons to him....gurgle...and how many people were there with him when you visited and what are his plans to attack America again and ...gurgle...are you ready to talk now??

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

1. yes

What has happened to our country when some people think things like this are ok?

[jedicord]

2. Sometimes I agree with my husband just to get him to

shut up.

Imagine what would happen if he was holding my head under water.

:think:

[waiting for hope]

4. Oh, very good!

I believe that also coincides with husbands only hearing: blah, blah blah, blah blah....if we were holding their heads under water, it would get their attention! Then perhaps the garbage would get taken out, the carpet vacuumed, perhaps even some grocery shopping..oh my, I digress. Torture is WRONG.

[jedicord]

8. LOL! I tell my husband all the time...

Good thing you're cute!

[Orrex]

3. It would be a festive water amusement, of course.

Just like the guys who are "going on a diet" in Gitmo and who are made to stand 8 or 10 hours, just like our poor, overworked Sec. Rumsfeld.


Your mistake is that you're not thinking about this in Neocon terms. Instead, you're troubling yourself with that messy "reality" stuff.

[kliljedahl]

6. And what a wonderful place it it

[Cyrano]

7. Torture: Listening to reruns of Bush's speeches 24/7

I'm not making light of torture and the fact that our country is engaging in it makes me disgusted, angry and ashamed.

Having said that, imagine being locked in a tiny cell with Bush's speeches being played to you non-stop. You could also say the same things about Limbaugh or O'Reilly rants.

One of my fantasies is having Limbaugh or O'Reilly in jail and piping in Jack Kennedy's and FDR's speeches on a regular basis. Or perhaps some of the wisdom of Gandhi. The crazy bastards would probably try to hang themselves with their own bedsheets.

[Orrex]

10. Listening to Bush once a week is torture

What you're suggesting is monstrous!

[Double T]

5. Torture has nothing to do with getting the truth.........

only the desired response. You have to be one sick bastard to torture or believe you are getting the truth. And to realize this type of 'thinking' is running our country is more frightful than the torture itself.

[Bluerthanblue]

9. you really struck a chord, and actually targeted the TRUE value

of 'torture' in my view- (value is the wrong word- excuse?)
It is a kind of personal revenge- a way of 'getting even'-
In a HUGE stretch of the truth,imagination- and 'spin' it is twisted to appear 'acceptable' or 'necessary' or god help us, 'noble'- but all it is, in reality is self sanctioned meeting out of vengeance- and a desire to inflict harm on those we call 'enemy'.

[Gabi Hayes]

11. THIS is torture, of the most inhuman sort.....warning--graphic

[Punkingal]

12. yes...

It is horrible. That would make a basket case out of me.

[Cleita]

13. According to the new "Battlestar Gallactica" it is.

There was a show last season on the Sci-Fi channel, where Starbuck was ordered to torture a suspected Cylon. They weren't sure if this person was a Cylon or a human. So her job was to work him over to find out what he was. One of the things she did was shove his head in a bucket of water to the point of almost drowning. The detainee finally admits that he is a Cylon to stop the torture.

Starbuck has misgivings because she feels he confessed just to stop the torture. However, the authorities have what they wanted, a confession. Whether it was true or not was irrelevant. The President, played by Mary MacDonald (Dances With Wolves), ejects him out into space without life support. Since the episode was made after the Abu Ghraib pictures were exposed, I think the writers wrote this episode to present what torture really is.