The repukes will nominate Condi in '08

[bigwillq]

if things continue to spiral out of control by then.

My thinking is that the DEMS can nominate me for prez if things continue to free fall for the pukes. I feel most people would vote for whatever DEM candidate we put out b/c they wouldn't want to send another puke to the White House.

The the pukes can spin it like this:
"Look we nominated a woman and a "minority". We tried to extend our hand out to women and "minorities" but those bad DEMS didn't want to support a candidate like that."

Just my thoughts.
Discuss.

[BlueEyedSon]

1. Good, she is awful and will lose big-time!

[Deja Q]

2. Bingo. It's amusing how they've succeeded in turning the tables.

Still, in every candy store there's always a shelf full of oreos...

[Punkingal]

3. It would be just like them to try that...

but she may be discredited by then along with the rest of the cabal. And their very own racist, misogynist souls will probably keep them from doing it.

[yankeedem]

4. The other pukes running for the nomination will kill her chances

Can't you just hear the whisper campaign now?

"She's unmarried, you know what that means".

[bigwillq]

8. LOL!

Not married=gay!

[koopie57]

15. I thought she mentioned

her husband at a dinner party. I think she called him George.

[unblock]

10. rofl! as if being a black woman wasn't enough

[PSPS]

5. Never happen. It violates their "southern strategy"

Republicans would never put a black person on a presidential ticket. They would lose about half their "base."

[xultar]

6. Nope, they wont. She'll be on the short list for VeeP though.

[bigwillq]

46. I think she could be a veep candidate (nt)

[LostInAnomie]

7. And they would have their ass handed to them.

No way in hell Republicans would ever vote for a black woman. They could kiss the south goodbye.

[JohnnyRingo]

16. I'd say you called that one.

Even my republican friends here in Ohio barely mask their racist AND sexist feelings when I mention her chances in the WH. Including as a VP candidate.

She'll never make it to the primary ballot, and I doubt she could safely campaign in the deep south.

Fox "News" political analyst is her best hope to stay in the limelight post 2008. I doubt her ego demands such though, and I see her writing books instead.

[Tomee450]

28. I remember when it

was thought that Colin Powell might be a candidate. Gary Bauer and his group said they would have to carefully review Powell's record. That meant that they would be turning over every stone in an attempt to find something very negative about him. Powell and his family knew what was in store so he made the wise decision not to run.

[serryjw]

49. Stupid..She has never been tested

She is a lousy speaker, no charisma and needs her teeth done!...Has never been on the campaign trail, has never fund raised, can't imagine she would be good at 'shaking babies and kissing hands'!

[unblock]

9. no way in hell

banana republicans love having their token women and minorities in background positions, just enough to help maintain the illusion that they're not racist. but they ARE racist, they just don't want to be overt about it.

there's no way they'll ever vote for a black woman to be president. if they were to nominate her, they would have the lowest republican turnout ever.

[Snotcicles]

11. Better Think Twice,About Mushroom Cloud Rice. n/t

[Nitrogenica]

12. Is this the same Condaleeza that LIED AGAIN AND AGAIN!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_on_the_Record_Report

[neebob]

13. I saw something yesterday - on CNN, I believe -

about how people like her. I was like, "What?! Where are these people?" It sounded as if she was being built up for a presidential run, though I don't remember if the story said anything like that. I was too busy going, "Eew! Eew! Who likes her?"

[SofaKingLiberal]

39. I remember seeing something like that on CNN.

They said polls show that people have a favorable opinion of her. I think it was about 52%. But having a favorable opinion of someone and believing that person should be president are two completely different things.

[neebob]

40. Yeah, and now that you mention it

it seems like the idea was that the Badministration is putting Condi out there because people like her. I missed anything about polls.

[johnaries]

14. I just thought of an interesting scenario:

if the Pukes nominated Condi and the Dems nominated Hillary.

Considering much of the anti-feminism attitude of many "Macho" Pukes, I'll bet a lot of them will vote Libertarian.

[seabeyond]

17. she is black adn female. they are bigots and anti female

this is not something they are just a little of. or something they will let go of to win a fight. they think women are less. they think women belong behind them and blacks below them. they will not hire a black woman to run the country.

[kentuck]

18. I hope so...

:)

[ClintonTyree]

19. She has the bush "taint" all over her...............

whoever the pukes select will have to far removed from the BFEE. They can't afford to have anyone remotely connected to calamity george as a candidate, they'd never be able to get on message.

[Blasphemer]

20. She would be a horrible politician

No one in the MSM really critically examines her public speaking. It's the same 'ol "she's articulate" backhanded "compliment". She does not know how to deliver a message in a way that a politician with any chance of winning the presidency needs to. Add to that the fact that she is an unmarried AA woman who is disliked by the AA populus and you have a sure loser on your hands. If they want a woman, it would be Elizabeth Dole. She's the only Republican woman who would have a chance. Though, she would most likely be the VP on the ticket.

[JoZbean]

21. She's too "connected" to this white house

And therefore, too close. They need to distance themselves from Bush to be a viable entity in any election now.

I, myself, don't believe that Rice nor Clinton should be either party's representative in '08. I know there's a lot of Hillary fans out there, but I'm not one of them yet, although I'm trying. I hate that she won't take a legitimate stand against the war. For me, it's all about the war and all that's connected to it.

[suziedemocrat]

30. I'm with you!

[JoZbean]

33. Rice, Clinton or both?

:hi:

[suziedemocrat]

53. Everything you said.

I don't like Hilary either. I liked Bill - a lot. He seemed like he really wanted to make the world a better place. I think that is why people hated him so much - he was dangerous. He wanted a better world and he had the intelligence and drive to make things happen.

I don't get a genuine feeling from Hilary. She seems ambitious to me - and that's about it. She makes a very good Senator, but I don't want to see her as a President or V.P. For one thing, I'd REALLY like to see someone who was against the war in Iraq from the beginning. Like Dean - for Afghanistan, against Iraq. In hindsight - maybe Afghanistan was a con-job too, but at the time it seemed very reasonable. I am a (I think) moderate Democrat from the mid-West and I was TOTALLY against the war in Iraq from the beginning. I didn't believe the intelligence against Saddam was that damming. It seemed the Bush Administration would say something and within weeks it would turn out to be wrong. Forged documents, etc. If a hick nobody like me was on to Bush, surely the rest of them were too. They lacked the political courage to do the right thing. They didn't want to look weak and uncooperative. Of course - the blood is ALL on Bush's hands - he can't pass the buck to the Dems for allowing him to do what he wanted to do - but I can still be disappointed the Dems didn't have the courage to stand up to him.

I still like to see more of Bill though.

[Danger Duck]

22. McCain has already bought the nomination.

He agreed to play the part of an obedient supporter and friend, and with his populist beliefs and practices, he will get the nomination. Look for Giuliani to compete. Condi will not get the ticket, I doubt she will even run. The Republicans just want to keep her in the forefront for two reasons:

1: To showcase that minorities have a place in the Republican party.
2: TO draw comments that they can construe as racist from the left regarding Condi.

[alfredo]

23. I think there might be a video of Condi smiling as she talked of

casualties. Keep an eye out for that.

Found it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch.php?v=-0xB98WMH_w

[tx_dem41]

37. Its less than convincing. n/t

[alfredo]

44. I know, but then why was that the only part of her comments

that brought a smile? Maybe she is not evil, just one screwed up lady.

[tx_dem41]

45. Because the film was heavily edited ? n/t

[alfredo]

47. Did CNN do the editing?

[tx_dem41]

50. No...the website you linked to did the editing. n/t

[alfredo]

51. It was hard to tell because the whole thing was stuttering.

I'm on dialup.

[w13rd0]

24. Besides the obvious...

...that she's black and a woman...there's a couple other issues that would prevent her from being on the ticket.

She's not been outspoken about being a religious wingnut. From everything I've read, she's pro-choice and pro-affirmative action. She's just a PNACer, guided by her conviction that "eternal struggle" is what "keeps America strong". Her area of expertise is the Cold War Soviet Union and the Cold War in general. She now applies this same limited worldview in the "war on terrorism" in an attempt to prop it up as our next "eternal struggle".

So let's go down the list:

• black


• woman


• doesn't speak in tongues enough and makes too few references to jesus


• pro-choice?


• pro-affirmative action?


• has never been married or had a child, which means jesus hates her


• pro-war (but the war is one of the areas where there is the MOST internal dissent within the GOP right now, so that's not even all that positive in regards to her possible jockeying for an elected position)

Sorry, pipe dream, but whose pipe dream? And why does this bullshit keep getting bandied about?

[bigwillq]

48. I was just putting it out there

for discussion sake.

[charlyvi]

25. No way. The Southern Baptist Convention

which is the same as saying "The South" would never go along with it. One of the principles they voiced in their mission statement a few years ago is that a woman should obey her husband. I'm not kidding. Therefore, they would never support a single woman, how uppity not to have a husband to guide her, childless and black at the same time. She might get nominated, but the South wouldn't go for her. I don't think the North would go for her either; not because of her sex or race but because of her record of incompetence. She's in this administration's morass of lies up to her gappy teeth. And a conservative party trying to look liberal would not score big at the polling place.

[Tomee450]

26. If Rice is nominated,

the democrats will win by the biggest landslide in history. I don't think she'll be nominated, though. The Repubs are not that dumb.

[suziedemocrat]

27. I HATE her so much!!!!! But - does she appeal to Blacks? Women?

That could be a big deal if she does. Even though I'm a woman and I hate her - does she appeal to women? Personally I couldn't care less about the gender or race of the candidate - it is their views that matter to me. True equal opportunity should make gender and race irrelevant - but I'm not sure we're there yet. I don't see Condi as a friend to Women or Blacks, but I'm not sure others share my view?

[frazzledmom]

29. I saw Alice Walker(Color Purple author) get very angy at

being compared to Condi. She has no support among blacks or women.

[suziedemocrat]

32. That's good to hear.

[Tomee450]

31. I'm black

and Rice does not appeal to me. I am past voting for someone simply because he is black. I never hear any African Americans expressing a positive view of Ms. Rice.

[NewJeffCT]

35. If she gets just 1-2% more of the black vote than Bush...

That could make a huge difference in an election.

This is also not about suddenly winning 51% of the African American vote. It's about slowly wearing away one of the big bases of the Democratic Party, one that has been consistently 80-90% Democratic for decades now.

If Condi even makes it to a primary, Republicans can point to that and Clarence Thomas, Rod Paige & Colin Powell, in addition to Alberto Gonzalez.

[NewJeffCT]

34. no chance, Condi's name is being used, though

for the next 2 years, we'll hear a lot about Condi. She may even form an exploratory committee, raise funds, etc.

The sole purpose, as bigwillq said above is to say, "look, one of our top candidates is Condi Rice, who is black and female. We are the party of opportunity if you are black or a woman... after all, we'd never consider her if it was not!"

You don't know how many Freeper types believe that the Republican party is really the place to be if you are black or Hispanic just because of Powell, Rice & Gonzalez. Never mind that almost everybody below them is a lily-white male, or that the ones making the real decisions are lily white males. Pay no attention to that. (Wasn't Powell basically out of the loop when it came to Iraq? I mean, if RWer Bob Woodward is writing that a Saudi ambassaddor knew before Powell, what does that say?)

[populistdriven]

36. Rice as VP on ticket = low turnout & D landslide

[immoderate]

38. Let's run Carol Mosely-Braun against her.

I am at least half serious. While I admired Ms. Braun as a candidate, I think she is a long shot, but I would love it because if Dems don't vote for Condi, they are sure to say we are racist and sexist.

--IMM

[DeepModem Mom]

41. I think it's Rovian, and a good possibility. And she's malleable --

just like W, she would do what they want. CNN referenced a poll yesterday in which she polled higher than all administration figures.

[Warren DeMontague]

42. She's pro-choice.

never happen.

[Booster]

43. They need to have a Dem win so we can clean up the mess they

have caused. Dems may not have any ideas (a meme I don't go along with), but the Repugs ideas are ridiculous and costly, both monetarily and in the loss of personal freedoms. Cleaning up after them is a trend that started long ago and will continue. I'm not so sure they (Wash) aren't all (well, ok, not all) in this little dance together.

[mondo joe]

52. Good. Let them lose enough of their usual racist votes.