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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 02:44 PM
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Dem senators didn't support the Iraq invasion. Stop being a rePUKE tool.
The Democratic supported the use of force in the even the inspections didn't work. Idiot Son didn't allow enough time to LET THE INSPECTIONS WORK because he feared the truth getting out about NO WMD before he got his bullshit war started.

DUers should stop being the useful idiots of the rePUKE fucktards and Tweety by saying the Democrats "voted for the war."

Bush is trying to say the same thing today because he thinks he can get away with nobody calling him on it. Don't be a tool of Little Lord Pissypants.

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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 02:46 PM
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1. At the very least this is not the time for us to be attacking the
dem senators. They need our support now that they have finally stepped up to the plate.
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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 02:54 PM
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5. There's no getting around
the fact that they voted to authorize the use of force. Any attempt to paint it otherwise only makes it worse for them. As TurdBlossom noted "If you're explaining, you're losing."

By attempting to explain it away, Democrats get caught in the Kerry-esque trap of "He was for it before he was against it."

The Repiglicans didn't hesitate to break along party lines over our strikes on Kosovo. Remember Trent Lott saying "I can support the troops without supporting this president?"

Far too many democrats let their moral centers be outweighed by their sense of realpolitik.

I, for one, am more than happy to forgive any democrat who voted for the war who will now admit that (s)he was wrong.
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MrMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 02:50 PM
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2. I respectfully disagree
Edited on Fri Nov-11-05 02:51 PM by MrMonk
"The Democratic supported the use of force in the even the inspections didn't work." Although the Senators said that, and it may have been in their hearts, that condition was not in the bill that they voted for. If they didn't support the war, they should not have voted for a bill that did not include that condition.
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No DUplicitous DUpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 02:51 PM
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3. Exactly, They voted for a united front to push the inspectors back
into Iraq.

The war was rushed, as you say, and NO DEM voted for that!!
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 03:21 PM
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10. Iraq had ALREADY agreed to unconditional inspections resumption....
Please stop repeating this war-monger's myth. Iraq had been disarmed since the early nineties-- for an ENTIRE DECADE-- and had already agreed to unconditional inspections to prove it. Bush drove them out (and Clinton before him)-- NOT Saddam Hussein.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 02:52 PM
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4. They let themselves be Briar-patched" because they were too afraid
to unify AGAINST war. They allowed the "vote" to ne ambiuguous. Ambiguity is a dangerous thing..cuts both ways..it all depends on who's holding the knife.. The bush crew are expert knife-fighters.
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 02:54 PM
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6. The ones, like Sen. Feingold, and the two thirds of House Dems
did NOT support IWR. They had the courage to vote against it. Their votes should not be denigrated because of the fools who did vote for IWR.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 03:56 PM
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16. There were some who knew before the IWR vote
that the intel was bogus. Such as my Rep. Pete DeFazio:

"I sat through a large number of classified and unclassified briefings from administration officials prior to the congressional vote in October 2002 to go to war. Based on the evidence that was presented to me by the administration, it was clear even before the congressional vote, and certainly before the U.S. went to war in March 2003, that the administration hyped, manipulated, and
misrepresented the intelligence regarding the threat posed by Iraq's previously known weapons of mass destruction programs and stockpiles.

The administration did the same when it attempted to link Iraq with al-Qaeda. It was also clear to me that the administration had no realistic plan for what to do after overthrowing Saddam Hussein."
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 02:55 PM
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7. They should say they supported the President. Who lied to them
They trust him. He lied to them. HOWEVER, if you haven't reneged on your support by now, you are worthless in my book.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 02:58 PM
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8. First, Flamebait. Second Wrong.
Edited on Fri Nov-11-05 03:00 PM by DistressedAmerican
They cast the votes that wrote him the blank check. Plain and simple. They authorized the invasion. If they did so against their own beliefs they are hypocrites.

You have no information on what was going on inside of their heads when they cast those votes. I suspect most were just worried about being called unpatriotic during a time of national reactionary hysteria.

Some took a principled stand. Most just thought about how it would effect them in the next election. Too bad for them that they failed to realize that those votes would not be popular come 2006.

Politics and politicians are a scam. They care only about their careers.

I for one will not be casting any voted for people that cast prowar votes. They are the source of the problem.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 03:08 PM
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9. they voted for the war-- stop trying to parse history...
...and face the truth. Until dems do that, they will have no high ground from which to speak.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 03:25 PM
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11. If they couldn't figure it out and I did
then they've got no business being there.

They were political cowards, plain and simple. They must admit that they were wrong to give that shithead a blank check. Nothing else will do.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 03:30 PM
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12. Tell the VichyDems who backed Bush to stop being repuke tools.
Even if Iraq had WMD there was still no reason to invade a sovereign country that posed no threat to the United States.

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Village Idiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 03:30 PM
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13. The problem is - he's HALF right.
The Dems did vote to do this, all the while KNOWING that this is UNCONSTITUTIONAL. They gave away their CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to be the only body that could declare war.

Did they NOT THINK that Chimpy would do it? I am not the sharpest tack in the drawer, but even I knew what was coming next.

If you don't think that "Dems voted for the war," WTF did you think they vovted for? Just to give the Pretzledent the power to declare war? I can't think for a moment that those who voted "YEA" were ALL stupid enough to believe that the Chimperor would not actually DECLARE WAR after they IMPROPERLY and UNCONSTITUTIONALLY gave him the ability to do it...

It makes it just that much harder to get the US out of this POS war.

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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 03:30 PM
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14. Creating positive change in the world requires beginning with Truth
Denial doesn't accomplish anything.

Peace.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 03:33 PM
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15. You must have a short memory.
I remember those days, and it was perfectly evident that Bush was hot for war. They could have come up with a counter proposal that was more limited. They didn't because they were afraid to.
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