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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 02:34 PM
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Two Months Later, Katrina Survivors are Losing the Battle , Media Benjamin
Dear mods, I am posting this in it's entirety because it is so important and because it is not copyrighted material, so please allow it to remain as is. It has crucial info on the community orgs that are trying to help people on a grassroots level. Thanks.

Two Months Later, Katrina Survivors are Losing the
Battle

by Medea Benjamin


Two months after Katrina, the residents of New Orleans
most traumatized by the hurricane and its aftermath
are now traumatized in their battle to return home.
And many of the city’s poor, black “Katrina survivors”
are losing this second battle.

Diane Watson lived in the district that was the
poorest and the hardest hit: the lower Ninth Ward. Two
months after Katrina, that area remains cordoned off
by military guards and they’re still finding dead
bodies beneath the rubble. Mrs. Watson, who was
evacuated to Houston, drove back to New Orleans with a
relative to see the home she had lived in for the last
40 years. She was directed to the Red Cross tent,
where an escort from the mayor’s office took her to
see the house. She returned in a daze. “It was
supposed to be my house, but it sure didn’t look like
it. The roof was on one side, the house was somewhere
else, and my neighbor’s carport was smack in the
middle.” Her eyes bulged in disbelief and tears ran
down her checks. “They wouldn’t let me go inside to
see if I could find something, anything, for memory’s
sake, like a picture of my late husband.”

Mrs. Watson had no insurance. When her husband died
two years ago, she forgot to keep up the payments. “A
whole lifetime of work and now I have nothing,” she
sighed. “I’ll have to move to Chicago and live with my
daughter. My arthritis acts up bad in the cold, but I
have no choice.”

John Turner was luckier—his house in the Gentilly
section was water logged but still standing, and he
had insurance. But at 75, he was too overwhelmed by
his ordeal at the Superdome and too tired to start all
over again. “My house was a ‘fixer-upper’ when I
bought it back in 1975, and I’ve been fixing it up
ever since. This year I retired and was just able to
start enjoying it. Now this,” he said, tears welling
up in his eyes. While Mr. Turner had home insurance,
he didn’t have flood insurance. He had no idea what
his insurance would cover, but he prayed it would
enough for him to move somewhere else. When I wished
him good luck, he tried to smile. “I sure need some
good luck. If it weren’t for bad luck, I’d have no
luck at all.”

Giselle Smith, a single mom with three children, is
younger and more resilient. In early October she
returned to her home near the French Quarter, an area
that only got two feet of water. “I love living in
this district,” she said, “ and I couldn’t wait to get
back. I know all my neighbors, they help me with the
kids, and during Mardi Gras, we just go out our door
and we’re right in the thick of it,” she laughed. The
day she returned, Ms. Smith got to work cleaning up
the house. She ripped up the buckled floors and put in
new tiles, she scrubbed off the mold and repainted. By
the end of the month her modest home was clean as a
whistle. But Ms. Smith had a different problem. She
was a renter.

She’d been renting the same house for 11 years, just
like she had the same job as a parking lot attendant
for all those years. The neighbors attested that she
was a good worker, a good tenant and a good mom. But
the very day that the governor lifted the moratorium
on evictions, her landlord presented her with an
eviction notice. The reason? Failure to pay
September’s rent. The Smiths, like everyone else in
the city, had been forced to evacuate, and her home
had no electricity or water or sewage. She also had to
pay rent in Houston for September, and didn’t have
money to pay rent in two places.

Ms. Smith is determined to fight the eviction, and
local lawyers have come to her aid. But the real
reason for the eviction notice is that houses that
didn’t flood are at a premium and her landlord, like
many others, is eager to cash in. Ms. Smith’s
neighbors down the block were paying $800 rent until
they came home to find their rent jacked up to $1,300.
By end of the week her long-time neighbors, a black
family, had packed up and a white family took their
place.

Similar fates are befalling residents of the city’s
38,000 public housing units: they are coming home to
find their apartments boarded up, even though the
concrete block apartments—ugly as they might be—were
among the best in withstanding the hurricane. Housing
advocates say it is part of a long-term desire to
cleanse the city of its public housing, recalling the
crass comments of Representative Richard Baker (R-LA):
"We finally cleaned up public housing in New Orleans.
We couldn't do it, but God did."

Before Hurricane Katrina, New Orleans was a city of
485,000 people, 65% of whom were black. Today,
officials estimate that during the day there are some
125,000 people, falling to 70,000 at nighttime when
many leave to find shelter outside the city. Mayor
Nagin predicted that New Orleans would lose about half
its pre-Katrina population. And with government
policies and market forces stacked against the poor,
the “new” New Orleans is becoming whiter and whiter.

What Can We Do?

The “whitification” of New Orleans, however, is not
inevitable. There are many solutions: demanding a
massive program for affordable housing, halting
evictions and price gouging for rental properties,
making it possible for evacuees who are scattered
around the country to move to temporary shelters
(trailers, vacant apartments, tents) back home, giving
job priority to local residents, reopening pubic
schools, providing support systems to those returning,
demanding that the poor be represented in the
rebuilding decisions.

We need to support the movements, both at the
grassroots and at the policy levels, that are
supporting these policies.

At the grassroots level, there are remarkable
community activists like Malik Rahim, who has turned
his home on the dry west bank of Algiers into the
Common Ground Collective, a hub for hundreds of
volunteers, a free medical clinic and many tons
materials aid. Another extraordinary local figure is
Mama D, whose home in Ward Seven has become a similar
beehive of support for those returning home. Both are
encouraging volunteers, skilled and “generalists”, to
join them—anytime for any amount of time. During
Thanksgiving week, November 22-29, Common Ground is
calling for a mass convergence on New Orleans help
clean up the Ninth Ward (see commongroundrelief.org).

Community Labor United is also setting up
communication/relief centers, and is asking for
volunteers (see www.communitylaborunited.net). They
have dedicated December 10 as the Day of Return and
encourage people to join them for a march in New
Orleans.

ACORN, temporarily based in Baton Rouge, is fighting
home demolitions and reconnecting with its New Orleans
base (now scattered throughout the country). They
recently created the ACORN Katrina Survivor
Association to pressure elected officials and FEMA.
ACORN has also partnered with the unions and the NAACP
to form New Opportunities for Action and Hope (NOAH),
which is demanding housing, job training and fair
wages for displaced families. Another coalition, the
Rebuilding Louisiana Coalition, is calling for a
rebuilding process that is environmentally
sustainable, socially equitable, and culturally
respectful. And these are just a few of the many
organizations worth supporting.

Many of us gave generously with our wallets when we
saw the horrific TV images of people struggling to
survive the ravages of the hurricane and government
negligence. Now that the people of New Orleans are
struggling to return home, we must not abandon them.
Let’s support the grassroots groups with funds, join
their efforts to change public policy, and come on
down to help.

A massive movement of solidarity is the only force
that will rescue the people of New Orleans this time
around.



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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 02:37 PM
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1. K & R'd n/t
Edited on Fri Nov-11-05 02:37 PM by AZDemDist6
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 02:42 PM
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2. Message to the Landrieu family: Do SOMETHING and SOON
Only the Landrieu's can intervene and stop this Gentryfication.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 10:33 PM
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23. I am glad you mentioned her. Has she gone back to sleep/
She was one of the 5 "dem" senators who voted to keep Guantanamo prisoners from having access to US courts. I thought that perhaps she had woken up after Katrina, but it seems like she missed the core message.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 11:33 AM
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34. she's doing A LOT
she is calling for 25 percent windfall profit tax on the oil and gas drilled here to go back to louisiana and a lot more, unfortunately, the federal gov't is blocking our way to get proper levees so we can rebuild, they say they need a study

a damn study!

what do they need to study, we know real-time the floodwalls don't protect the damn city, we need to go back to the earthern levees which did withstand the storm and we need to get moving

ok, now here comes the rant, please keep in mind when i say "you" i don't mean any particular poster on DU, i mean the weird little group of people (& we've all heard from them) who are soooooo concerned abt hurrying up & getting louisiana people out of THEIR states

<rant starts>

we need money, if you really want to do something positive, rather than to move poor black people back out of YOUR town (the real motive, i suspect, of those who want to rebuild slum housing in unsafe areas), then you need to support the construction of proper cat 3 levels before opening of hurricane season 2006 and the construction of cat 5 levees as soon as humanly possible

don't pretend you care about poor people if the plan is to encourage them to go squat in an area which is currently not even safe against a cat 1 storm, maybe not safe against a regular old spring rain or a tropical storm!

anyone who thought the lower 9th ward was going to be rebuilt by now is effing crazy & doesn't understand the size of the disaster, yes, it's too damn bad that people will have to stay in houston or chicago awhile longer, i've got more refugees in my town than you have in effing chicago & you don't hear me trying to scare the pants off them so they'll go live in a damn shack w. no damn levee protection around it, they didn't ask to be here or in your city either, so quit trying to pretend there is anything sweet or progressive about giving these people the damn bum's rush


this is the reality of the lower 9th ward



no, they can't go back any time soon, i am so sorry, it prob. impacts MY traffic and MY schools a hell of a lot more than yours, the people who pretend they are being "progressive" when they try to hustle people back to new orleans are almost worse than the people who call them code names like "canadians" and are hateful to their face, it's the damn hypocrisy, don't crap on somebody and call it chocolate ice cream

<ok, rant over, sorry ya'll, but i felt it had to be said>







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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 02:44 PM
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3. Where did this article come from?
Several of us who were in Crawford got to know folks from New Orleans, and I was surprised I didn't see them mentioned in this article.

If possible, I'd like to contact Medea either through this article or through Code Pink and see what those folks are doing, and how we can be of help.
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Angry Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 02:47 PM
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5. Code Pink's link
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Angry Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 02:45 PM
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4. Thanks, momcat! (but this is a month old already?) Link is here:
Edited on Fri Nov-11-05 02:46 PM by Angry Girl
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 04:30 PM
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9. I just got it in my inbox from a source that is usually faster than this.
Anyway, it is good info about some inportant work being done.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 02:55 PM
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6. If you've wanted to help, now is a really good time, Great group and idea!
http://www.commongroundrelief.org/roadtrip/
Link for Common Ground Relief Thanksgiving week work party. Solidarity, not Charity.

Come lend a hand from November 20- 27th. Check out this Basic information to find out what to bring. Check back regularly for updates with directions and an online registration form.

The folks at Common Ground invite you to join an estimated 300 volunteers from around the continent to converge in New Orleans the week of Thanksgiving.We want to encourage those in attendance to arrive with building & clearning supplies, donated equipment and, if possible, funds that can apply directly to help rebuild and the 9th Ward.

Upon arrival, we will orient you to the long history of neglect and oppression in this area and offer tips on how to connect with the community in a respectful and effective manor. Then we will plug people into community projects in the 9th ward where we have just opened a new distribution center and where we are helping to coordinate efforts to challenge unjust city, state and national governments' policies and commercial exploits.

Common Ground will supply basic shelter and food, as well evening events throughout the week. Please read our page on Basic information to find out what to bring. On Thanksgiving Day, we will offer a Thank You feast, where we hope to feed all of the volunteers and residents of the community.

We want to encourage all participants to check out the
Roadtrip for Relief Forum Discussion, write Kerul Dyer at [email protected] to let us know where you are coming from, how many are in your convoy and when you will arrive! Feel free to call 504.339.5885 with further questions.
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 03:03 PM
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7. Thank you for posting this
Edited on Fri Nov-11-05 03:07 PM by Catrina
I would like to post it on another board. Is it alright to post the entire article since there's no link?

I noticed that they are still finding bodies. I also saw on the news that they are planning on demolishing thousands of homes. I wonder how many bodies are still in those homes.

Is there no estimate of the number of people who died in NO? I have read that over 7000 people are still missing.

I find it appalling that this tragedy, with bodies still being found, is being so ignored.

Recommended ~

Edited to say thanks for the link ~
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 04:20 PM
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8. Thanks for the link too!
this came to me in an e-mail and is was so important that I just wanted to see it posted.As soon as I posted it and was about to check out the site, my neighbor called because another neighbor,s dog has gotten out. I had to go get her out of traffic!
Just got back and saw that this was on the Greatest Page already.That just tells me how much you all care about what happened and want to help. Malik Rahim's organization http://www.commongroundrelief.org/ is well worthy of your attention.

I just also wanted to say thank you for all of the support that you have given me in the startup for the site katrinatruth.info (see sig line).I will soon be posting the next batch of articles and have more in the pipeline.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 04:34 PM
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10. It will be ignored unless we all keep screaming about it. It was murder
by criminal endangerment. Now they want to steal what little the survivors have left.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 11:45 AM
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36. last official count i saw for new orleans area dead was 1,070
that was some days ago tho

this does not include the dead in other areas, such as the 288 dead in mississippi gulf coast

as far as i know, they have not been able to confirm any number of missing yet, it will be a long process because of the displacement

some of the people interviewed don't seem to have a very good grasp on the size of the world or the size of the disaster, there was death and destruction from pretty much the alabama/mississippi state line to orange, texas or thereabouts in two huge storms, there is no way that the lower 9th ward was ever going to be all fixed up in a few months, if the levees aren't strong enough to resist a cat 3 storm, then the area should not be rebuilt at all

i strongly encourage anyone who has doubts abt what happened to their home to do a looksee during daylight hours so they will not be left in any doubt abt what happened and not be in denial or feel they are being cheated







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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 04:55 PM
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11. Thanks for the post mom cat. Mr. Turner must be a blues fan
since his reply about bad luck ("If it weren’t for bad luck, I’d have no
luck at all") is a line from the classic Albert King song "Born Under a Bad Sign" which was written by Booker T. Jones of Booker T and the MGs and William Bell and covered by loads of people including Jimi Hendrix, Cream, Clapton...

Very, very sad. :cry:
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 05:42 PM
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12. kick
:kick:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 05:44 PM
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13. msnbc did a report today saying lots in shelters yet--some have sued
fema--demanding better housing/trailers.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 05:45 PM
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14. said they keep getting shifted to different shelters-month by month.
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 06:09 PM
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15. What happened to all the money that was donated
for relief? Couldn't that have been used to bring people back to their home state and provide some temporary shelter?

And how many people died? Why is there no official number? The OP says they are still finding bodies, but I have seen nothing on the news about this.

Also, the last I heard was that only 35 bodies had been released for burial.

And what about Mississippi? That state was devasted, yet we hear nothing at all about it. The last I heard about that was that bodies were being taken to a morgue there. Then nothing.

You're right, we have to keep demanding answers ~ or those poor people who died will never be acknowledged.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 09:41 PM
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19. The Red Cross says they are out of money....I think there needs to
be an accounting of them and everyone else who had the contracts to do something.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 07:29 PM
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18. Do you have the link for this. I found several at msnbc, but not
exactly what you mentioned. Thanks.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 06:22 PM
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16. Kick and Forward to all your local neighborhood e-mail lists
Anyone with construction experience needs to get down there and fast to help prevent the demolition of New Orleans. I will be going down there myself, I hope.

Once those homes are gone, there will be no means of repatriation.

I have seen it here in DC -- in the absence of a disaster to use as an excuse, it is policy CLINTON created -- give people the "right" to return, so long as their historic and/or cheap dwellings are torn down without their permission (HOPE VI, and the recent Supreme Court ruling)

...once the buildings are gone, the residents (and even businesses, with money) have no leg to stand on because the DEVELOPERS of the new construction have title and can impose ANY restriction, go back on ANY agreement, to get their money's worth.

These "redevelopment experts" AIN'T proposing to rebuild people's homes FOR THEM, people.

They want to buy the land from people, LIE TO THEM to say it's uninhabitable (and unsafe due to elevation) then RESELL THE PROPERTY AT THE SAME ELEVATION to make condos for the rich (with ground-floor garages to protect against flooding -- think Los Angeles on the Mississippi)

And they are SAYING in the paper that ANY injustice to poor people is justified by them being ABLE TO LIVE SOMEWHERE, ANYWHERE ELSE BUT NEW ORLEANS.

Remember the WaPo article about how a guy lost his entire family before his eyes to the floodwaters -- but he got forcibly deposited in Texarkana -- a place he'd never been before -- and the journalist said that makes it all OK?? Because he gets to live in a majority white, non inner city area that has "good schools" (and I bet they have an excellent science curriculum out there in the Ozark) that literally JUSTIFIES ALL HE'S BEEN THRU?! Justifies the death of his family -- and this, on the front page of the Post!

I'm just saying, that's all.

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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 07:09 PM
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17. Please send me some more info:
Who you will be going down with....and their link
Link for the HOPE V and the Supreme court decision that you quote, or a link to an article that discusses this.
Keep us posted while you are down there and please try to post a separate thread about your efforts and those of others that you know. Thanks bor going and doing the hard work that is needed.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 09:58 PM
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20. We need to keep the spotlights on here!
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 10:27 PM
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22. Thank goodness we know how to multi-task. There is a lot vying
for our attention right now, but Katrina and all of the ramifications of that act oc criminal endangerment must stay on the front burner.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 09:21 AM
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28. Yes.
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 10:02 PM
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21. kick
:kick:
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 10:40 PM
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24. Thank you, again, Media Benjamin!
Good Lord, what is becoming of our country? I am in tears.
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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 11:07 PM
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25. Kick
I find this tragedy absolutely appalling...and where are the Repukes who whined about looting when these tales of landlords LOOTING from their long, loyal tenants take place? This area is still in an emergency situation - there should be legally enforced rent/price controls while rebuilding continues to take place in the city.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 11:17 AM
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31. The real looters have shiny shoes. Remember the photos of two different
couples wading through deep water carrying a few itens. The caption for the Black couple branded them at looters...the one for the White couple suggested that they "found" the items they were carrying. The real looters are well connected leeches who know how to milk a tragedy for their own profit. It is up to all of us to keep this story alive. Keep posting articles that you find on the continuing scandal of the hurricanes.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 11:08 PM
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26. "America" isn't "America" anymore. Maybe it never was.Certainly the
attrocities inflivted toward Native Americans and slaves were an even worse abandonment. Certainly what the US has done in Iraq is worse, but I always kidded myself into thinking that it wouldn't hapen here... not in "America". Where have you gone, my land of the free and home of the brave? Where the hell are you. First you strip the porest people of their only protection by letting the old levee system decay and the wetlands dissappear...all the while, knowing full well what the consequences would be.
Now you have the audacity to loot from the victims in every way you can.
Death and shame have been brought upon us.
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 12:44 AM
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27. I too am in tears ~ maybe America was all a myth
it certainly seems so now. I feel as though in the past five years I have learned of horrors I couldn't imagine before that. Torture, killing, tens of thousands of innocents, corruption beyond belief, the Abramoff sagas eg ~ more vile corruption revealed each day, and at the hightest levels of our government.

There are some images I will never forget though, from this dark period in our history, NO, people dehydrating, drowning and dying right before our eyes on television, and Bush playing the guitar, and the Torture pictures, the horror of that, in our name.

Thanks to the OP for keeping us up to date, and to all the people who are still going there and helping out. Wish I could go, I will if I can in the future ~

This is too much, and the liars keep lying ~ and killing and cheating. They don't miss a beat.

I can't believe the Red Cross is out of money. I think from now on people should form their own small groups and collect the money themselves, and deliver it to individuals who need it.

Eg, why could some of that money not be used to give to people to rent in LA, or to put tents there so they are near their homes?

I was horrified also to see the vultures renting out their cruise ships at huge amounts of money obviously paid for by Fema, money that would have bough houses. Unbelievable.

I want to see some of these people on television. There seems to be plenty of time for other missing people stories, but no one on the missing from LA and Miss. I want to know how many died ~ how do we force the media to cover this story?
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 11:32 AM
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33. Stay on top of this one.
http://www.commongroundrelief.org/roadtrip
Keep up with what Malik Rahim's group is doing at the link above and also drop by at the link on my sig line.
Your description of your painful discovery of the brutal reality of US policy resonates with my own. There seems to be no end to their brutality.
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Theres-a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 09:32 AM
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29. Thanks
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 09:45 AM
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30. For those of you in HAWAII Medea
will be HERE signing Books for Code Pink this coming weekend.. both on Oahu and in Maui as well..

We're gonna go see her and say hi, we've known her for a long time, she may be surprised to see us and find out we live here in the Islands..

Wish I'd known sooner, I would have asked her to have dinner with us, gone down to the docks and brought her some Fresh FISH straight from the ocean.. Spent two days two weeks ago on the high seas in a Marlin Fishing Contest,and it's freaking SCARY out there in a little boat - the boat I was in wasn't so small, but it sure GOT small when the 12 foot waves started showing up :)

I love this place, we'll try to share that love with her, with the Aloha spirit - it's not just a word that means both "hello" and "goodbye".. Aloha literally means in Hawaiian, "the Breath of God, or the Creator"... very cool when you figure out their language at least at that level of minimal..

So I'll bring her a "Rove's War" DVD, maybe she can watch it on the plane ride on the way home..

Check out the MauiPeaceActionGroup for details online.

Aloha to you too, and remember, "Maui No Ka Oi" (Means "Maui is the Best!")

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MojoXN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 11:21 AM
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32. Charging rent for SEPTEMBER???
:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

That should be fuckng CRIMINAL! I'm serious. Louisiana lawmakers should pass a law criminalizing this sort of behavior IMMEDIATELY.

MojoXN
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 11:38 AM
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35. Louisiana legislators are probably landlords or at least go to the same
country clubs. It is so clear that the deals have already been cut and the survivors from the bottom of the bowl are going to get nada unless their is a sustained outcry.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 11:54 AM
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37. what about charging for power and phone?
they're all in on it, we got bills for such things as phone service when we didn't have any damn service, electric when we didn't have damn electric etc.

as far as "congress should pass a law," there is already a law against de-frauding yr insurer, landlords who have interruption of rent insurance included in the coverage are committing fraud if they charge for september if they also received payment from their insurer

the catch is, talking to my friends who are landlords, is that insurers aren't paying

my friends the landlords ALSO lost their homes and none of their rental properties are in habitable condition, one is now displaced several states away, the other sleeps in an air mattress on my floor, their tenants have vanished with no word, so here they are, having lost everything themselves, hmmm, maybe they can rescue, clean, and pay for storage for their tenants' belongings, don't think so, the money is just not there for that

don't be too quick to judge the landlords, they've lost their houses too & despite paying insurance for yrs or decades, insurers are dragging their feet

if we are to rebuild WE NEED CASH

all the rest is just talk, the people need $$$ to rebuild, and some insurance company CEOs need to go to federal prison for fraud if insurance companies don't honor their obligations
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ROH Donating Member (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 08:19 PM
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38. Can you tell me the following article isn't true?
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