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Loyal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 12:25 PM
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Poll question: Max Cleland for VP??
Edited on Tue Oct-14-03 12:29 PM by Loyal
What do you think of Max Cleland for VP? I personally think that he would be a great choice for any of the nominees, simply because of his experience and the fact that he's a war hero. What do you think? Respond below.
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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 12:29 PM
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1. I think it would make a great statement
Disability doesn't keep any person down and Max Cleland has proved in his career and the other statment is that Max Cleland will be part of the team which defeats the Rove machine which went into overdrive to defeat Max in Georgia by trying to define him as unpatriotic and soft on defense.
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Loyal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 12:29 PM
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2. Agreed
nt
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Katie Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 12:29 PM
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3. After the hatchet job Republicans did on him..
I'd love to see him as VP. Makes me sick to my stomach everytime I think of what they did to him & how they got away with it.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 12:31 PM
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4. His sheer presence would be eloquent...
Edited on Tue Oct-14-03 12:32 PM by Padraig18
... on the issues of patriotism and sacrifice--- and THEN they'd find out what and INCREDIBLE person he is! He'd be a GREAT VP! :thumbsup:
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 12:31 PM
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5. VA Administrator, and multi term Senator
I think he is due for a retirement. He has served us well (especially defending our country).
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 12:42 PM
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8. I think he would not be happy or fulfilled in retirement.
In public service, Senator Clelland found a richer, fuller life than any other possibilities open to him. As much bravery as he displayed in his volunteering to go to Vietnam, and his volunteering to take part in Operation Pegasus, for the relief of the siege of Khe Sanh (where he was injured), I think he displayed even more bravery and guts to overcome his loss of limbs to put in 30 years of public service. I hope to see him very active in the 2004 presidential campaign, followed by a cabinet level appointment.
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 12:38 PM
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6. No, that's really not a well thought out choice
It really would reenforce the huge stereotype of the democratic party, that all we do is pander to every needy interest at every opportunity

it was even a joke in the Chris Rock movie, Head of State

they decided to nominate a minority to lose, but then ensure the minority vote for years. One guy said "why not a cripple?"

nominating a triple-amputee would be the same thing.

A big part of a VP's job is to have advantages as a campaigner, which Cleland would obviously not, and to be healthy, where Cleland obviously is worse than Cheney.

There are many better choices.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 12:39 PM
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7. Right State, But...
John Lewis should be the next Veep, because of his experience, AND the fact he's a national hero, AND the fact he would pick us up some votes from the South AND the disenfranchised non-voting minorities.

I can dream, can't I?

Clelland would only be effective if Clark does not get the nomination. Lewis would grace any ticket.

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Frodo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 12:42 PM
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9. Ummmmm. No.
There seems to be a pattern here of picking up losing Georgia candidates to "stick it" to the other side.

McKinney can't win her own district in a Democratic primary? Hey, that's OK! We'll run her state-wide for Senator. Cleland loses his Senate seat? That's no problem! We'll run him on the national ticket.

I'm all for picking a moderate southerner for the ticket. I was big on Edwards until not very long ago. But it has to be someone who can at least bring in his own state (why I'm cool on edwards now). Cleland on the ticket does not give us Georgia (though it could strangely help get that seat back from Miller).

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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 11:06 PM
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13. McKinney had the full weight of the Republican machine on her..
including lies, slander, and a ton of money for her opponent. They were on a vendetta against her in particular because she pushed for an independent 9-11 investigation.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 12:58 PM
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10. It's actually being floated in Georgia, as well as Cleland running for...
..Zell Miller's seat.

Remember, Clark actively campaigned for Cleland in 2002.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 04:07 PM
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11. We need a young democrat for VP who can become president for 2013-2021
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 04:10 PM
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12. That would be
Edwards
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 11:20 PM
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14. Edwards might be a good choice
and eight years as VP would certainly give him the experience some people seem to feel he lacks right now.

Edwards has that Clintonesque ability to empathize, and he has a pretty strong television presence... almost like a down-home JFK, which would help a great deal.

His presence on the ticket might not win NC for us, but perhaps it could pull some Southern states in our direction. It's a very interesting suggestion, certainly.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 11:27 PM
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17. Yep.
Edwards is perfect, although some at DU argued that having him on the bottom of the ticket nullifies his natural southern-state advantage.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 11:24 PM
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15. hell yeah...
I've said for months Cleland would make a great VP candidate.

If nominated, it won't be because he's a triple amputee. He'd be nominated because he's an intelligent, driven public servant.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 11:25 PM
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16. Cleland's been destroyed, sorry
I mean, the GOP thugs wouldn't even have to spend money on new campaign ads to attack him. Just pull up the 2002 Usama morph, put in some new cards, and voila.

And he wouldn't carry Georgia, either. Like Florida, it's at least temporarily out reach, due to black box voting and general corruption.
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