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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 10:12 AM
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While You Freeps Are Watching The French Riots Remember This.
Edited on Thu Nov-10-05 10:14 AM by DistressedAmerican
The violence and anger we are seeing in the streets of France is a direct result of racist and classist governmental policies. Essentially freeperish policies. They are the result of a large segment of the French population being cut off from economic opportunity, legal representation and hope. Poverty, race and desperation are driving the riots.

I want you freeps to take a good hard look at the outcome of decades of divisive policies and prejudice. You better remember it. It is where we are headed as long as you racist and elitist freeps run the show. The American poor and minorities feel more and more disenfranchised everyday. This is a direct result of the policies implemented under the Bush regime with full and open freeper support.

All I can say is when the riots hit this country, I hope that the rioters are smart enough to go after red states and red strongholds in otherwise blue states instead of burning their own neighborhoods.

Bush supporters are the problem. I just hope that sanity prevails SOON so that rioting does not become the answer.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 10:22 AM
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1. You have made some really good points. Unfortunately, it will
fall on deaf ears. The freeper types only see that Muslims are the ones rioting and that only reinforces their belief that "ragheads" are dangerous and therefore they deserve any retaliation that happens as a result. They are unable to draw any correlation between the division of classes in France or in their own country. They'll just have another serving of kool-aid and put on their rose colored glasses and fall in line behind dear leader.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 10:24 AM
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2. Probably True. I Have Been Reading Their Ranting And Thought I Would
try to point out the obvious fct that they ALL seem to be missing. Somtetimes I like to cast a few pearls on the swine just to say I tried.:hi:
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WalrusSlayer Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 10:26 AM
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3. Yeah, well, I know at least one talking point...
...Michael Graham was using the French riots as a tool to bash illegal immigration. Basically it was "all you illegal alien apologists, look over in Paris---this is what will happen here if we don't crack down on illegal aliens."

Now I gotta say that I don't have a well-formed opinion on immigration policy here in the US, but blaming immigration enforcement as a root cause to the French riots is seriously disingenuous. (what? a spouter of right-wing propoganda might be disinenguous? never!)
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marbuc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 10:48 AM
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6. I haven't been following this as much as I should
but I've heard many of the rioters are first generation French of North African descent, which nullifies the illegal immigration angle.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 10:49 AM
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7. Just Spun As Kids Of Immigrants. Most Legal Though.
Edited on Thu Nov-10-05 10:49 AM by DistressedAmerican
Still racist garbage.
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 10:28 AM
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4. The problem is
it probably will be their own neighborhoods they'll burn.

The dispossessed are so completely alienated that they don't see themselves as belonging to any larger community. So when passions boil over, they don't see the harm they do themselves when they burn their neighbors' cars and nearby businesses. In a few days, damage is done that takes at least a generation to heal. That's the true tragedy of riots.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 10:30 AM
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5. You Are Absolutely Correct. Sadly.
The LA riots did not roll into Beverly Hills.
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nunovyurbiznez Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 11:53 AM
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8. Isn't France a socialist government?
Do they even have freeper policies?
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 12:20 PM
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10. The Asshats Finally Reposted This Huh. Nice To See The Trolls.
So you plan a suicide run?


You are ignorant as hell just like usual. Racism and classism are alive and well in France. Just as they are here, promoted by assholes on your side.

This is the end result, as were the LA riots and many others in our history. When you actively increase poverty with unsound out of control pork bills to Repug states and strip funding from social programs ans education, you are setting the same conditions.

I guess you are too short sighted to see that.

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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 09:18 PM
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13. A Few Of The Typical Freeper Replies To The Repost Of This Thread
Edited on Thu Nov-10-05 09:20 PM by DistressedAmerican
Diseased American, you should take into account this, the French people are basically unarmed and have no guns. We do. Also take this into account, we have been praying with all our heart for an excuse to use them on unAmerican assholes. Don't give us that excuse, you won't like what happens.

Oh, I almost forgot. God says, "Fuck you!"

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BTW, I heard that Mohammed is quickly making its way up the charts of popular French boys' names. Think that, along with the near zero birthrate among the cheese-eating surrender monkeys, has anything to do with those riots?

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This guy is an idiot.


This is the result of 40 years of nanny-state socialism, multicultural fetishism, and identity politics, although I agree that French bigotry also has something to do with it.

Poverty? Don't these guys have free health care and welfare? Isn't that better than a nasty capitalist job? Hmmmmm????????

C'mon pinko, what do you say?

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Need I even say more about the racist and classist bullshit that they spew?

"God says, 'Fuck You!'"? Apparently these are Bush christians.
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nunovyurbiznez Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 11:43 AM
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14. What's your point?
I'm not any of those people. I asked a simple question. Can you answer it instead of being paranoid about every new person here being a freeper when they dare to ask you a question that doesn't fit in with your premise? Are progressives supposed to be like freepers and walk lock-step with everything you and only you say?
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maximovich Donating Member (407 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 11:48 AM
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15. He Answered It
Yes... there are Freeper types (racist, ignorant, destructive) people creating policies in France. Is that hard to believe? If it is... Damn!
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 12:56 PM
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17. Ok, here you go
Yes, France has a Socialist government.

But it also has Le Pen, and Le Pen has many sympathizers. Nationalism & bigotry exist everywhere. Tutsis, Hutus, Croats, Serbs, Japanese, Koreans, Shiites, Sunnis, Black, White, etc. ad nauseum.

It is NATURAL for people to be clannish & xenophobic, and the French are no exception. Americans certainly aren't, so we shouldn't be throwing ANY stones at France finally having to come to grips with its own inherent bigotry. America has made progress on issues of race (yes, it has, naysayers) only because

When you shame & oppress you cause what you fear.
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 01:05 PM
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18. Paris is a very strange city
The center is extra-ordinary. Paris is a city which is build to impress. The whole center is showing one message and the message is that Paris is the center of the universe. Some cities may be bigger. Some cities may have taller buildings. Some cities may be older. But no city is as impressive as Paris.

The result is that it is extremely wealthy. It's Beverly Hills on a massive scale and it's rich and white. Around the center you have some normal district and some poorer districts and then you have the ringroad and on the other side of the ringroad you'll find ghettos stretching for miles and it's one huge concrete jungle. And it's just north-africans living there.

The only way to get to the center is not by the underground, but by the RER. An underground railroad system which is even lower (it's below the sewer as well) and it is only build to get the people to work and back again and it's setup to seperate from the normal metro system.

Even though they are socialists, it is a segregation tactic and it was bound happen in Paris (and then spread to the rest of the country), because we are talking about a huge city with 10 millions people and 3 millions of those are North-Africans living in the ghettos. So the scale is even slightly bigger than New York City.
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malta blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 11:56 AM
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16. "cheese-eating surrender monkeys"???
"God says, "Fuck you!"

WTF is wrong with people?
They can keep their freedom fries...
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