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dutchdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 05:18 AM
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The Italian Video Documentary on Fallajuh that needs to be seen.
I have put the Italian documentary in Flash here:

http://www.chris-floyd.com/fallujah/

and backed up the wmv video file to take some pressure off their servers. It's available as a link on the bottom of the page.

Cheers

DD

http://www.chris-floyd.com/fallujah/

For the horrific slideshow click here: (NOT VERY COMFORTABLE TO VIEW)

http://www.rainews24.rai.it/ran24/inchiesta/slideshow.asp?gallery=1&id=2
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 05:28 AM
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1. Thanks for posting...
having trouble downloading, will try again later.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 05:35 AM
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2. The wmv file isn't right
when I click on it, it loads your home page.
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dutchdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 05:45 AM
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4. It should be okay now
I was still uploading it at time of post.

Sorry...

http://chris-floyd.com/fallujah/fallujah_ING.wmv
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 06:10 AM
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7. got it - 46,004,893 bytes
who's the narrator?
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dutchdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 06:16 AM
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9. Not sure...
I am not sure... but it's an Italian production.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 08:28 AM
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17. Amy Goodman will have the producer on
She's showing clips from it,
and said the producer will be on.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 05:45 AM
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3. It's quite apparent.......
that the reports of the United States military using phosphorous or a new type of napalm are true. That's disgusting and unholy. I'm more ashamed with each passing day to be an American.
In an illegal and immoral war that never should have been fought our military is using the most lethal and questionable tactics in warfare since the Viet Nam war.
We've become what we were supposed to be fighting to get rid of. Saddam had nothing on us. Ruthlessness and horror are rampant within our own military, just what we were supposed to be fighting against.

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dutchdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 05:51 AM
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5. Here is Jeff Englehart's Blog (young US soldier in the video)
He really needs some defending... his blog is being swamped by attackers of his pacifist stance.

http://www.ftssoldier.blogspot.com/
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Stockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 06:01 AM
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6. He does not seem like a pacifist to me
More like a professional soldier with brains.
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dutchdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 06:15 AM
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8. Perhaps worded wrong.
In my haste...
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 06:51 AM
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11. Ditto that. nt.
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pengu1n Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 06:19 AM
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10. Should be on the evening news
If any more proof needed that his war is a crime of historic proportions.

Put it on the box every night for a week, then lets see if Mr and Mrs lardbutt are still so keen on the Fascists.


Words fail me.

The US and UK - after 60 years of dirty foreign policy have left the rest of the world tired, scared, and angry.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 07:39 AM
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12. Recommended. I don't think I'll want breakfast this morning
In dict this entire administration for war crimes!
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 07:53 AM
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13. If you have the stomach for it
here are Dahr Jamail's pictures of the victims of Fallujah:


http://dahrjamailiraq.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album32




BTW: dutchdemocrat, just curious about your connection to Chris Floyd?

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dutchdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 08:17 AM
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15. I am his webmaster
Volunteer. I built the site for him.

Jah.

DD
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 08:27 AM
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16. That's great
I love his articles. Nice work.

PBWY
DYEW

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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 07:56 AM
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14. The Independent has the story
US forces 'used chemical weapons' during assault on city of Fallujah

http://www.independent.co.uk/
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 08:57 AM
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18. when will the 'Merican people wake up to this Administration
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 12:56 PM
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22. Direct link to the article - says it is a form of napalm called Mark 77
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article325560.ece

In a documentary to be broadcast by RAI, the Italian state broadcaster, this morning, a former American soldier who fought at Fallujah says: "I heard the order to pay attention because they were going to use white phosphorus on Fallujah. In military jargon it's known as Willy Pete.

snip

Photographs on the website of RaiTG24, the broadcaster's 24-hours news channel, www.rainews24.it, show exactly what the former soldier means. Provided by the Studies Centre of Human Rights in Fallujah, dozens of high-quality, colour close-ups show bodies of Fallujah residents, some still in their beds, whose clothes remain largely intact but whose skin has been dissolved or caramelised or turned the consistency of leather by the shells.

A biologist in Fallujah, Mohamad Tareq, interviewed for the film, says: "A rain of fire fell on the city, the people struck by this multi-coloured substance started to burn, we found people dead with strange wounds, the bodies burned but the clothes intact."

The documentary, entitled Fallujah: the Hidden Massacre, also provides what it claims is clinching evidence that incendiary bombs known as Mark 77, a new, improved form of napalm, was used in the attack on Fallujah, in breach of the UN Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons of 1980, which only allows its use against military targets.
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 01:13 PM
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23. US previously admitted using Mark 77 on Iraqi troops in 2003
Officials confirm dropping firebombs on Iraqi troops
Results are 'remarkably similar' to using napalm
By James W. Crawley
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER
August 5, 2003

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/military/20030805-9999_1n5bomb.html

Hundreds of partially loaded Mark 77 firebombs were stored on pre-positioned ammunition ships overseas, Marine Corps officials said. Those ships were unloaded in Kuwait during the weeks preceding the war.

snip

During a recent interview about the bombing campaign in Iraq, Marine Corps Maj. Gen. Jim Amos confirmed aircraft dropped what he and other Marines continue to call napalm on Iraqi troops on several occasions. He commanded Marine jet and helicopter units involved in the Iraq war and leads the Miramar-based 3rd Marine Air Wing.

snip

"This additive has significantly less of an impact on the environment," wrote Marine spokesman Col. Michael Daily, in an e-mailed information sheet provided by the Pentagon.

snip

"The generals love napalm," said Alles, who has transferred to Washington. "It has a big psychological effect."
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dutchdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:34 AM
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19. Kicked for Morning Crew
This is an important video and an important story.
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dutchdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 10:21 AM
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20. PHOSPHOR OVER FALLUJA:
PHOSPHOR OVER FALLUJA:
http://www.jungewelt.de/2004/11-13/001.php
(from a german newspaper report:)

- grenades with white phosphor have been fired on Falluja which created a wall of fire, burning all the time (phosphor flames can`t be stopped by water - phosphor creates fire by a chemical reaction).
- many people did melt; so enourmous is the heat
- Iraqi doctor Kamal Hadeethi told journalists of the Washington Post: »I`ve seen many people injured; the streets are full of crying people -and full of dead people: they even were melt down to the street.« Falluja residents told that all the streets are destroyed, houses are ruines, and at walls stick parts of human meat.
- white phosphor reacts simply by contact with air and creates temperatures which even make metall melt - when white phosphor burns it sets free clouds of toxic smog. therefore white phosphor can also be seen as a chemical weapon
- white phosphor was used in WW II against german cities

NAPALM IN FALLUJA:
according to: http://www.freace.de/artikel/aug2003/napalm060803.html

- it seems that the US used in this war every weapon they had - besides nukes.
- but also grenades with low radioctive uran were fired (all in all between 1000 and 2000 tons of uran-munition; in kosovo and serbia, were the US also used this weapon, cancer rate among the population nowadays is extremely high.)
- "Daisy Cutter" bombs (BLU 82)were used; effect: a fireball with radius more than one square mile; miles around this square mile the explosion creates a vacuum: so the lungs of people implode.
- according to the San Diego Union-Tribune Napalm was used against Iraqis. The Pentagon tries to manipulate and denies the use of Napalm: they don`t call it Napalm bombs today; they call it "Mark 77 Fire Bombs", wich would have only an "quite similar effect".
Officially the US destroyed all its Napalm bombs in 2001.
The speaker of the marines, Michael Daily, said, that "Mark 77 is more environment-friendly than Napalm." (Mark 77 consists mainly of cerosin - napalm consisted mainly of benzol; cerosin burns even faster)
- US-Marine Randolph Alles, who directed some Napalm attacs himself said "the Generals love Napalm because it has a big psychological effect - due to the fire ball and its typicall smell".
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:34 AM
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21. "When Kerry conceded... it was ON" - Fallujah had to wait for US election.
Edited on Tue Nov-08-05 11:35 AM by cyberpj
What we knew - is now on film.


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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 04:03 PM
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24. Every single one of us needs to be writing our congresspeople on this:
I hope they get so many letters they have to hire extra staff to open them all!



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Christa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 04:09 PM
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25. I cannot watch it :-(
I don't have the stomach :-(
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northamericancitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 04:21 PM
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26. I will NOT watch people melting away
Edited on Tue Nov-08-05 04:22 PM by northamericancitizen
To know it is more than enough and I am weeping at the extent of atrocities war can bring.

Lets organize an other mondial Peace March.

Now.

NAC
lise
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 04:04 AM
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27. OMG! What has happened to our country??
Innocent men, women and children killed and burned without thinking twice about it.

I know it is easy to comment while sitting behind a computer, but this is unbelievable! I cannot imagine what life must be like in Iraq for these poor civilians.

This documentary tore me up.
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 03:27 PM
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30. Exactly...
"Innocent men, women and children killed and burned without thinking twice about it."

Durbin was right. It is similar to Pol Pot or Nazis.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 02:19 PM
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28. kick n/t
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northamericancitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 03:18 PM
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29. another kick and a question
Why are some people arguing about the definition of WMD. In this particular case is it that important to know if 10, or a hundred persons die when there are close to it?

They f... melting.

Stop the WAR
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 04:55 PM
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31. Thanks. Shocking documentary
Horrible footage. I can't understand how people can argue about WP after seeing this.
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dutchdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 05:15 PM
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32. I found some other footage from Mark
Mark Manning the guy who had most of his tapes stolen upon return from Iraq... who's mentioned in the original video

Mark Manning and Conception Media Present "Caught in the Crossfire"
- The Untold Story of Falluja -
Buy the full length video sold as a fundraiser for the Iraqi civilians
suffering in the combat zones in Iraq

See here

http://www.chris-floyd.com/fallujah/
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