"We napalmed both those approaches"- American Jets in Falluja

[callady]

Results are 'remarkably similar' to using napalm

By James W. Crawley
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

August 5, 2003

American jets killed Iraqi troops with firebombs – similar to the controversial napalm used in the Vietnam War – in March and April as Marines battled toward Baghdad.

Marine Corps fighter pilots and commanders who have returned from the war zone have confirmed dropping dozens of incendiary bombs near bridges over the Saddam Canal and the Tigris River. The explosions created massive fireballs.



Mark 77 Firebomb

"We napalmed both those (bridge) approaches," said Col. Randolph Alles in a recent interview. He commanded Marine Air Group 11, based at Miramar Marine Corps Air Station, during the war. "Unfortunately, there were people there because you could see them in the (cockpit) video.

"They were Iraqi soldiers there. It's no great way to die," he added. How many Iraqis died, the military couldn't say. No accurate count has been made of Iraqi war casualties.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/military/20030805-9999_1n5bomb.html

[psychopomp]

1. Have you seen this documentary about the Falujah massacre? (link)

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/11/07.html#a5753

It's on Crooks and Liars' site. Quite revealing footage and interviews with U.S. soldiers who were there.

WARNING: The footage includes many close-ups of the dead; this is neccessary because the corpses offer proof of non-conventional weapons use and, in one important case, of torture.

[psychopomp]

4. Also in the documentary, napalm is discussed

but it is revealed that the incendiary weapon used is "MK 77," which has a different chemical composition but has the same effect as napalm. So, the U.S. can correctly claim that napalm was completely destroyed, finishing in 2001. However, we are using just as deadly and as cruel a variant.

[SHRED]

2. Also: White phosphorous used on the civilian populace...

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article10901.htm

[SammyWinstonJack]

3. Would that be a WoMD? I think so!

:grr:

[BattyDem]

5. All it would take is one photo of an Iraqi child ...

and the war would be over.


Children fleeing a napalm strike, Vietnam , 8 June 1972.

[callady]

7. Falluja women, children in mass grave

Falluja women, children in mass grave

Sunday 21 November 2004, 18:42 Makka Time, 15:42 GMT  

Many corpses remain unburied, Falluja residents say


Residents of a village neighbouring Falluja have told Aljazeera that they helped bury the bodies of 73 women and children who were burnt to death by a US bombing attack.

"We buried them here, but we could not identify them because they were charred by the use of napalm bombs used by the Americans," said one resident of Saqlawiya in footage aired on Aljazeera on Sunday.

There have been no reports of the US military using napalm in Falluja and no independent verification of the claims.

The resident told Aljazeera all the bodies were buried in a single grave.

Late last week, US troops in Falluja called on some residents who had fled the fighting to return and help bury the dead.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/24EBE5BB-CA3F-462B-8279-546BC1D9B7E6.htm

Go here:http://mindprod.com/politics/iraqatrocities.html

[BattyDem]

8. Now if only the US press would report the story ...

Americans would be outraged enough to bring our troops home! :grr:

[Horse with no Name]

14. Except that this administration will blame this mass grave

on Saddam. And the sheeple will believe...

[Nothing Without Hope]

11. Iraq war PAINTING derived from that famous Vietnamese one - POWERFUL!:

You may need to wait a few seconds for the image to load:



Artist's web site: http://www.coolon.net

There have been many, many photos of drastically injured and murdered Iraqi children. The US major media and most of Congress have basically ignored them. Land of the Free, Home of the Brave, Beacon to the World? Not any more.

[BattyDem]

12. Wow!

That painting is amazing! Sad .... but amazing.

You're right about the press. As I stated in the follow-up to my original post, I forgot that we no longer have a democracy or a free press. For a few moments, I actually thought that "evidence" would make a difference ... but it can't make a difference if it's never seen by the American people. :-(

[callady]

17. Sgrena knew too much?

Monday, March 07, 2005
 
Did Giuliana Sgrena Know Too Much?
Is this the article that made Giuliana Sgrena a target?
«We buried them, but we could not identify them because they were charred from the napalm bombs used by the Americans». People from Saqlawiya village, near Falluja, told al Jazeera television, based in Qatar, that they helped bury 73 bodies of women and children completely charred, all in the same grave. The sad story of common graves, which started at Saddam’s times, is not yet finished. Nobody could confirm if napalm bombs have been used in Falluja, but other bodies found last year after the fierce battle at Baghdad airport were also completely charred and some thought of nuclear bombs. No independent source could verify the facts, since all the news arrived until now are those spread by journalists embedded with the American troops, who would only allow British and American media to enrol with them. But the villagers who fled in the last few days spoke of many bodies which had not been buried: it was too dangerous to collect the corpses during the battle...

http://maxblumenthal.blogspot.com/2005/03/did-giuliana-sgrena-know-too-much-is.html

Here's Pentagon Denial:

First, napalm or napalm-like incendiary weapons are not outlawed. International law permits their use against military forces, which is how they were used in 2003.

Second, as noted above, no Mark-77 firebombs were used in Fallujah.

The Sunday Mirror’s phrasing "napalm gas" is also revealing. Napalm is a gel, not a gas. Why did the Sunday Mirror describe it as a gas?

<snip>

Next, the Sunday Mirror’s misinformation about “napalm gas” was reported in identical articles on Nov. 28 by aljazeera.com and islamonline.com. These two Web sites, which are owned by the same company – Al Jazeera Publishing – are deceptive look-alike Web sites that masquerade as the English-language sites of the popular Qatar-based Arabic-language satellite television station al Jazeera and the popular Islam Online Web site, which is islamonline.net.

Finally, some news accounts have claimed that U.S. forces have used "outlawed" phosphorus shells in Fallujah. Phosphorus shells are not outlawed. U.S. forces have used them very sparingly in Fallujah, for illumination purposes. They were fired into the air to illuminate enemy positions at night, not at enemy fighters.

There is a great deal of misinformation feeding on itself about U.S. forces allegedly using "outlawed" weapons in Fallujah. The facts are that U.S. forces are not using any illegal weapons in Fallujah or anywhere else in Iraq.

http://usinfo.state.gov/media/Archive_Index/Illegal_Weapons_in_Fallujah.html

[Nothing Without Hope]

20. I've always wondered what specific information she had that they didn't

want her to tell.

[ContraBass Black]

19. We've already seen several Iraqi children.

It's still going.

[BattyDem]

23. We've seen them in the European press and the alternative media

but the MSM ignores it, which means the average American never sees it. :-(

[wickerwoman]

24. There are dozens of them out there...

that US press won't print. Wouldn't want to upset anyone, after all...

[madrchsod]

6. here is the italian report with video

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=http://www.rainews24.rai.it/&prev=/search%3Fq%3Drai%2Bnews%2B24%26num%3D50%26hl%3Den%26hs%3DPDJ%26lr%3D
Translated version of http://www.rainews24.rai.it/

[BattyDem]

9. So pictures do exist

Silly me, I actually thought that if pictures/video existed, our press would show them and Americans would demand immediate withdrawl from Iraq. I forgot that we don't live in a democracy anymore and our news is "filtered" :-( :grr:

[Nothing Without Hope]

10. Discussed at DU back in June in this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x135363
thread title (6/27): Incinerating Iraqis: The napalm cover up

also discusses use of chemicals.

Recommended. This horror needs the light of day.

[enough]

13. kick

[Im with Rosey]

15. This is a must see.

I have not been able to watch the whole documentary, it is graphic, but I believe we MUST do something. I am emailing every senator I can, also KO. I'm not sure what KO will be able to do about the graphic nature though. There is more about this at DKos, the discussion has continued today with many threads, including the blog from the soldier in the video. I haven't had time to follow all the threads, so I can't be more specific, sorry. It is worth the visit though.

[Squatch]

18. In that video

one exerpt showed footage of what looked like cluster munitions used at night. That munition, was in fact, M-825 improved smoke. It's a 155mm artillery delivered obscurant.

[Christa]

16. Recommended. nt.

[dutchdemocrat]

21. I have the Italian documentary online as well

http://www.chris-floyd.com/fallujah/

Streaming Macromedia Flash 8 video or download the WMV file.

http://www.chris-floyd.com/fallujah/

[callady]

22. The United States is Using Napalm in Falluja

The United States is using napalm in Falluja. So far, the military has denied the allegations, but the proof is mounting. On Nov. 28 The Daily Mirror’s political editor, Paul Gilfeather filed a report stating: “US troops are secretly using outlawed napalm gas to wipe out remaining insurgents in and around Fallujah. News that President George W. Bush has sanctioned the use of napalm, a deadly cocktail of polystyrene and jet fuel banned by the United Nations in 1980, will stun governments around the world.”

For over a week rumors have circulated in the Arab press that both napalm and other chemical weapons were used mainly in the Jolan district of Falluja, a major area of the fighting. Now, despite a US media blackout, more evidence is leaking out and causing a furor in the British Parliament. As Gilfeather reports: “Last night Tony Blair was dragged into the row as furious Labour MPs demanded he face the Commons over it. Reports claim that innocent civilians have died in napalm attacks, which turn victims into human fireballs as the gel bonds flames to flesh.”

Blair is being pressed by furious MP’s to clarify whether or not he knew that the “banned weapon” was being used. He is also being asked to withdraw British troops if the US continues its use of napalm. As of this writing, Blair’s response remains unknown.

The US has already admitted that it used napalm during the siege of Baghdad. The truth was reluctantly confirmed by the Pentagon after news reports corroborated the evidence. The military has tried to conceal the truth by saying that there is a distinction between its new weapon and “traditional napalm”. The “improved” product carries the Pentagon moniker “Mark 77 firebombs” and uses jet fuel to “decrease environmental damage”. The fact that military planner’s even considered “environmental damage” while developing the tools for incinerating human beings, gives us some insight into the deep vein of cynicism that permeates their ranks.

http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=15&ItemID=6772

Go here for a compendium of articles and footage:http://mindprod.com/politics/iraqatrocities.html