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HomerRamone Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 02:53 AM
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The lesson from all this for the American left?
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Saturday, October 29, 2005
Unhappy Fitzmas

I've seen a few attempts to make the best of it, but Fitzmas was an absolute slam-dunk victory for the neocons. 60 years? Libby won't do 60 minutes. It's actually the best thing that ever happened to him. He'll be pardoned and have to spend a few years out of obvious political activity, during which time he'll be given millions of dollars for his valiant services to the Cause, but will be all ready to return in triumph to the Cheney administration, when he can destroy whatever of the world is still left. Libby doesn't have to turn over anybody in the Administration because he knows he won't do any time. Just like in the Mafia, a conviction adds to your prestige.

Why did Fitzgerald not go after anyone for the substantive crime itself? My guess is that he couldn't prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Plame was actually undercover. According to former CIA officer Larry Johnson, the CIA was worried that Plame may have been outed to the Russians by Aldrich Ames. What did they do in response? They brought her back to the states but continued to send her on undercover work to Europe. This is completely incoherent. Did they think there was a 50% chance that her identity had been revealed so they decided to cut her undercover work by 50%?

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The only important recent thinking on Plamegate is at Think Progress, where Jennifer Palmieri points out that George Tenet requested and got a meeting with Bush on June 2, 2004, resigned with no good reason ever being given, later that day Bush lawyered up for the first time on Plamegate, and a few days later Cheney was interviewed by Fitzgerald.

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Tenet must have told Bush that he told Fitzgerald that he was the one who told Cheney about Plame (although I note that the fact it was Tenet who told Cheney is still being denied by 'several former intelligence officials', a denial which is consistent with my theory that this whole matter is a CIA conspiracy). Tenet was thus in an impossible conflict between his duties to the Bush Administration and his duties to the CIA, and had to resign. The fact that Bush immediately had to lawyer up may mean that he had not been aware of what Cheney had been up to, or it may mean that Bush was for the first time made aware that he could not contain the situation once the Tenet cat was out of the bag. It can't be a coincidence that Tenet required an emergency resignation, without reasons, and Bush immediately needed a lawyer.

The lesson from all this for the American left?: stop putting all your political hopes on a Republican prosecutor appointed by John Ashcroft, get the crooked voting machine problem fixed (absolute job one!), and try to win an election or two.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 02:58 AM
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1. Sounds like a desparate LOSER wrote that ...
:rofl:
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mestup Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 03:05 AM
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2. How about just trying to appeal to non-voters?
I think the Dems have broken themselves too many times against the Repub voter rock. They should give it up.

Single Payer National Healthcare

That's how you motivate the non-voters. Health care costs are crippling the working classes, but noDEMbody seems to want to talk about it.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 05:16 AM
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3. Eeyore. Marvin. And mistatements of fact too.
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 06:27 AM
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4. A few facts: Fitz isn't a repub and wasn't appointed by Ashcroft.
Also the investigation isn't completed.

Furthermore, Fitz doesn't have to "prove" Plame's covert status. Is the blogger "guessing" that the CIA has any doubt or wasn't adequately informed regarding her status? Jeez. A lesson for the left is to stick to facts, reason and logic rather than using debunked Repub talking points.
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