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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 12:51 PM
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FREEPER RESPONSE!
Snakes and kittens.
A few thoughts on this very bad news.

The "new tone" was, perhaps, worth a try when George W. Bush went to Washington. It worked in Texas. But a year with the vipers in D.C. should have convinced the Bush White House that the only way to deal with political enemies in D.C. was in full battle mode. It never happened. The administration has publicly remained mute and unresponsive in the face endless outrageous attacks made on it by the lying press, the Dems, and the leftists. The administration never responds publicly. It just sits on its hands and lets the WH press secretary, a man who barely has the skills to be a spokesman for a small, rural school district, handle the snakes. The snakes you treated like a box of newborn kittens have now inflicted a serious wound on your presidency, Mr. President.

An administration skilled in doing battle in public might pull out of this. But this White House has never fought publicly against its political enemies. I sincerely hope that will change. The MSM now has the weapons to defeat the complete Bush domestic agenda if the White House reverts to form of not going after its political enemies publicly, including those in the press. The press and their Democrat masters will now start trying to criminalize Cheney and Bush. The chants of "corruption" and "criminal" will be loud and unceasing. It's already started. Unless this administration's customary weak response to political attacks is changed now, this will soon become a caretaker government.

Joe Wilson is one of many snakes the administration has treated like a kitten. Instead of multiple administration officials openly, forcefully, and repeatedly calling Wilson a liar, which he is, the White House played back channel games with the press (more snakes) to induce the MSM to expose Wilson. Fat chance. And that unwillingness to do public battle has led to this situation.

I feel sorry for Libby. There was no crime, yet he is charged with something that allegedly happened during the "investigation". This is an outrage against justice. Sadly, I have to point out that Martha Stewart was prosecuted and jailed for the same sort of thing by the Bush justice department. It won't be easy for the administration to argue this is unfair when it's done the same thing itself.

Who was the genius who agreed to hire Fitzgerald, maybe the most aggressive prosecutor in America, as the Special Prosecutor? Another snake in the cradle. There wasn't an inexperienced pacifist like Ken Starr available? Was Fitzgerald suggested by one of the Clinton DOJ holdovers the Bush team so foolishly failed to fire when they took over? More snakes treated as kittens.

As much as I despise Clinton, his team was always on the political offensive and usually way ahead of the curve. On domestic issues, the Bush team is always on its heels and doesn't seem to understand there even is a curve.

Bottom line: in the D.C. political wars, the White House is no place for a conscientious objector.

The political capital we worked so hard to give George W. Bush is close to being spent.

If the White House doesn't take the offensive quickly, the House and Senate could be lost. If we can't hold on to the House, expect an attempt at impeachment in 2007.

You have been fantastic in fighting the war on terror, Mr. President. Please, please start doing battle against the snakes of the MSM and the Democrat party. Fight, sir, fight.


48 posted on 10/28/2005 9:51:20 AM PDT by Semi Civil Servant
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 12:54 PM
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1. Where is the proof of any of this? When did Wilson lie?
Lots of assertions. No substance.
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:17 PM
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23. Freepers don't need proof
just warm kool-aid
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:41 PM
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28. no shit, they have the special ablilty to ignore the truth, and make
their own.
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 03:56 PM
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45. warm unsweetened kool-aid
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tulsakatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 03:49 PM
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43. it doesn't matter
if it comes from anyone on the left, it has to be a lie to them!

And if they can't find a lie, they'll make one up!

But judging from this post, it sounds like they've already given up. That's somewhat encouraging too......
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 12:54 PM
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2. I have never seen, rendered in ASCII...
A thouroughly gratuitous alleyway blowjob. Fascinating. ;-)
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 12:55 PM
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3. .
:nopity:
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:38 PM
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26. Exactly.
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 03:44 PM
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41. Oh, I know. Poor widdle lost lambs of Republicans. It is to hurl.
That's the problem with this administration: they've just been *too nice for their own good.*

:spray: :wow: :freak: :hurts:
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teenagebambam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 12:55 PM
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4. Wow. I.....just........wow.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 12:56 PM
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5. Impeachment of ** is now a real concept to the Freepers
:woohoo:
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ticapnews Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 12:57 PM
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6. Stunning.
To quote CNN... :P
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 12:57 PM
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7. "Who was the genius who agreed to hire Fitzgerald"
John Ashcroft.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:44 PM
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BWA HA HA HA HA HA!
That's right!!!!!

:rofl:!!!
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 04:33 PM
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57. That is perfect!
:applause:

Asscroft fucked himself and his own team. Haahahahaha!
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Kierkegaard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 12:58 PM
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8. This is wrong on so many levels...
that it makes my head spin to think about it.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 12:59 PM
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9. "Fight sir, fight."
:nopity:
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:11 PM
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18. yes--get under oath with Fitz and fight for all you are worth
and I want that Freeper to watch!
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:00 PM
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10. "It worked it Texas"????
Now that's delusional.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:12 PM
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20. yep--course the standard in texas
for integrity is quite a bit different than for the rest of us losers.
About 3 poops below a jackrabbit's anus, as I recall. Oh yeah, rattlesnake level!
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:45 PM
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32. in Texas, wasn't two of Bush's appointee positions being investigated?
Dept. of Housing and Labor. While he was campaigning for President, the media didn't even touch on his governorship of Texas. He appointed two cronies who proceeded to misuse funds- Dept of Housing owned her own construction company. Guess who got the bids? Dept. of Labor gave funds to certain corporations for re-training, without them having to retrain anybody. Can you say pay-off? It's amazing the collusion by the media during the 2000 campaign. Drugs? no answer insider trading? "my mother-in-law lost money--is that an answer? Why was your Texas driving record expunged and a new driver's license re-issued? no answer The media let him walk, and now you have freepers that have drunk the kool-aid big time, thinking he walks on water. I don't get it!!! God I'd take sexual exploits anytime over never ending killing and war--over an administration willing to undermine the security of our country for revenge or something far more sinister!!!!
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tulsakatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 04:21 PM
Response to Reply #32
52. 2 cronies who misused funds?
hmm........why does that sound familiar?
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:00 PM
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11. Semi Civil's got one thing right.
If we can't hold on to the House, expect an attempt at impeachment in 2007.

What a mental midget.

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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:00 PM
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12. Denial apparantly is a big river running through the rightwingland
So much is wrong there...not even worth it.
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Midnight Rambler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:02 PM
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13. Don't worry freepers, I'm sure somehow it's all Clinton's fault
Maybe the ACLU and the NEA too. And don't forget the Freemasons.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:02 PM
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14. The "new tone" in DC!!?!? Are they all on Oxycontin?
Do they really believe that little PR "charm offensive" * did early in 2000 was genuine? This bunch has been on the plain old offensive since it first arrived. How do they see them as timid. Talk about delusional. The Executive and the Legislative branches totally controlled by them and they see themselves as victims.
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Midnight Rambler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:06 PM
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15. Oh, it's a new tone alright
Unfortunately it's a new tone of brazen partisanship and mindblowing corruption. Actually, now that I think about it, it's really an old tone. I think Nixon tried it. Anyone know how that worked out?
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:11 PM
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19. They see them as timid because...
the Repugs have perfected the victim stance. Have you seen "Lady & the Tramp?" I swear the GOP playbook reminds me of the scene when the Siamese cats tear up the house. Then as soon as the aunt shows up they roll over on their backs and act like the dog is attacking them.

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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:59 PM
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38. Oh of course
Edited on Fri Oct-28-05 01:59 PM by FreedomAngel82
Always the "I'm a victim!" nonsense when they get caught with their pants down. It's getting really old and annoying and disgusting. If this was a democratic White House they wouldn't be making excuses like that. Heck no!
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tulsakatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 04:16 PM
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51. it's easy to see that these people are not victims.......
.....I mean with DC Republicans indicted every day, they certainly don't look innocent!
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:07 PM
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16. THE ADULTS ARE IN CHARGE!
Ehh, freeps?
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marbuc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:08 PM
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17. "trying to criminalize Cheney and Bush?"
If it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck...
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:49 PM
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35. Since when is criminalizing criminals a bad thing?
:shrug:
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Pepper32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:13 PM
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21. So sad. Too bad
The truth :hurts: :nopity:
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:14 PM
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22. Do we really share the same planet as these guys?
The difference in perceptions here is stunning.
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Batgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:35 PM
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24. That's one of the funniest things I've read in a long time
"An administration skilled in doing battle in public might pull out of this. But this White House has never fought publicly against its political enemies."

Can we be sure this wasn't written tongue in cheek?

If a list was compiled of all the people and entities this mobster administration has vengeance against, wouldn't the site be shut down for taking up too much bandwidth? Wouldn't it be easier to just make a list of people who they haven't smeared (yet)?

Who is more likely to wish for a weak, inexperienced prosecutor -- someone who's innocent?

And the depiction of this notorious gang of dicks as being such nice guys, they're simply too innocent and naive to be able to mount a defense against their critics, aka the Combined Forces of Evil? It's got to be satire.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:47 PM
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33. "this White House has never fought publicly" DAMN STRAIGHT!
A clear admission that this White House prefers to ambush someone and slit their enemies' throats in a dark place, where shadows fear to tread . . .
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 04:51 PM
Response to Reply #33
63. *ahem* David Kelly *cough*
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 04:13 PM
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50. I often suspect that fully 2/3 of FR must be po-faced trolling, but
you really can't tell, with that lot: they defy satire. Who the hell knows. Either way,

:rofl:
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:37 PM
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25. I used to miss National Lampoon, but not anymore
This guy is hilarious!!

onenote
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:39 PM
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27. Can you say.....
:crazy:

I knew you could.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:42 PM
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29. MY VERY FAVORITE:
There is no need to impeach Hanoi Kerry from the US Senate

He is there illegally!

WAKEUP AMERICA!

For those who "forgot" what Hanoi Kerry
did in the past read on and learn the truth.

Hanoi Kerry was still a USNR officer while he:
gave false hearsay testimony to Congress
negotiated with the enemy
helped the US lose a war
abetted in the deaths of millions
created a hostile environment for all servicemen


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 02:00 PM
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39. Oh brother
Of course. Always turn it to Kerry or Clinton. Go figure. :eyes:
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:44 PM
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30. Fugem!
Their day is coming! I think they got to Fitz somehow, call me crazy, but he seems real nervous, like he is being threatened. Total letdown on the indictments, something is fishy.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:44 PM
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31. They are in their own little world over there...
and it's getting smaller by the minute.

To: West Coast Conservative
DUmmies are VERY quiet right now.. LOL!

33 posted on 10/28/2005 9:49:59 AM PDT by RushCrush
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:47 PM
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34. It's so bizarre to read freeper rants that are written by someone who has
a command of the English language. Clearly, the author is severely mentally ill or has otherwise impaired judgment, but at least he can form a complete sentence.

That's the best compliment I can give the guy. Beyond that, his post is utter shite not based in any kind of reality. "You have been fantastic in fighting the war on terror, Mr. President." Really? Do you have any examples of his success?
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 04:40 PM
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60. Someone posted something here
a long time ago--showing that conservatism, or at least the form of it we are seeing at present, could be considered a mental illness. I believe it was taken from something written by a psychologist--it's kind of vague now...

I'm being completely serious--it was a very interesting read.

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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:50 PM
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36. Huh?!?!
Bottom line: in the D.C. political wars, the White House is no place for a conscientious objector.

Who the hell in the White House these days is a conscientious objector? Chickenhawk, yes. Conscientious objector, no.
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Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:54 PM
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37. Big surprise
G. Gordon Liddy sells books and wingnuts listen to him on the radio. Ollie North is their hero. There's nothing wrong with breaking the law for the cause. To them, the mistake is allowing the legal process that nailed them to take place at all. They probably think * should just declare martial law and shoot anyone who questions the administration.
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 02:05 PM
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40. I have some advice for this guy-

It's time to emigrate or take the time machine back to where you came from.

We are the majority now, it's not worth it for you to stay. I mean that in the nicest possible way- you will suicide and/or go postal on us in the near future if you stay. It's best for everyone if you leave for New Zealand or Alberta or Vladivostok sooner rather than later.

As for the rest of your occultism and delusions, maybe medication would help. That cognitive dissonance stage in particular and cult recovery in general are a bitch to get through.
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tulsakatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 04:38 PM
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59. that's true!!!
we ARE the majority now!!! It was really only a matter of time....I always knew the Republicans would eventually self destruct and now is the time!!

There is a distinct change of direction in this country and it's turning left once again. Just like after Watergate. People got sick of corruption from the right and now it's happening all over again.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 03:47 PM
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42. LMAO... I'll say it again
If Joe Wilson is a snake and a liar, then the administration should be punished for sending a snake and a liar to investigate something that would eventually cost thousands of lives. They need a new schtick, they are spinning themselves into a corner.

Oh and "You did a great job on the war on terror? LMFAO! Keep kidding yourselves freeps...
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IA_Seth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 03:50 PM
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44. I got three words....
that I know these pukes will understand:

Bring. It. On.

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tulsakatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 03:56 PM
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46. Starr, a pacifist?
I never heard that one before......
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 03:58 PM
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47. "If we can't hold on to the House, expect an attempt at impeachment in 07"
Edited on Fri Oct-28-05 03:59 PM by Fluffdaddy
From Semi Civil Servant's Mouth to Gods ears
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 04:06 PM
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48. Why do they never grasp the irony .
They complain that Libby was not accused of a crime but of lying to the Grand Jury investigating a crime.They did the exact same thing to Clinton and will not see that it is the same shoe on a different foot.God forbid they pause to put it all together and compare a blowjob to a lie to go to war.
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 04:10 PM
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49. They grasp the irony . They just can't say it openly
What goes around comes around
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tulsakatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 04:40 PM
Response to Reply #48
61. getting a BJ is not a crime either, good point.......n/t
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 04:45 PM
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62. It is to some freepers.
(I think that is what makes them so angry):evilgrin:
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tulsakatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 04:11 PM
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64. haha.......because they're not getting any? n/t
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 04:25 PM
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53. Sooo, they're wondering why Ashcroft didn't hire Anna Nicole Smith
to be the prosecutor? Bwaaaaahahahahahahaha!

Those people in the WH are too nice? Too apolitical to deal with DC politics? I wonder if that freeper would like to ask John McCain or Ann Richards that?
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 04:28 PM
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54. Don't you know?
They just got what they had coming to them. :sarcasm:
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 04:28 PM
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55. Snakes eat rats and we all know what vermin Repukes are so
chomp chomp motherfuckers!!!! Us Snakes are about to take a HUGH bite outta some vermin ass!
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 04:31 PM
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56. The World's smallest violin playing "My heart bleeds for you"
:nopity:
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 04:34 PM
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58. bwahaha...
:rofl: :nopity:
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