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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 09:33 AM
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Matthews on MSNBC:
Getting the WMD info wrong not done 'deliberately', nobody would think THAT!. Schmuck from newsweek agrees with him...

What planet are these people living on?

The Big Lie contines...
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 09:34 AM
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1. Ok, well if it wasn't a LIE, then it was massive incompetence ...
... in which case the entire misAdministration should be impeached for not knowing shit from shinola.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 09:34 AM
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2. Of course it was deliberate!
Edited on Fri Oct-28-05 09:35 AM by Hissyspit
Haven't these idiots got it YET???

You can't believe a WORD anybody in this administration says!
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 09:35 AM
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3. Speak for yourself, Tweety
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 09:35 AM
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4. How long is he going to continue to read Rove's faxes? n/t
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 09:36 AM
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5. that is not what I heard. Matthews thinks they did get it wrong and
perhaps deliberately. but he speaks fast and i have it on in the background.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 10:05 AM
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14. He must be slobbering again.
:eyes:
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 09:36 AM
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6. I know, I wanted to smack him!
and he rat tat tatted all the Republican talking points in a very narrative form, and then acted like that was the truth!
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Punkingal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 09:36 AM
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7. I heard that...
They have to continue to give these criminals the benefit of the doubt. It is disgusting.
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 09:38 AM
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8. Tweety really gets a hardon over Bush's power...
Mathews is simply in love with power, and with the power of the press to confer power on the president and his office, even when Bush and his admin are acting like keystone cops or hardline cowboys trying to deal with the evildoers in Iraq.

He actually wants to see Bush pardon Libby because Cheney owes so much to Libby... and you know... they're all so pucking fowerful! lol

Sue
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 09:38 AM
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9. Tweety Compromises Himself Every Time That Pie Hole Opens
Until he comes clean with what he was told by Rove and others, he holds no credibility to analyize this topic. He's part of this crime, not some innocent bystander.

He, Mrs. Greenspan and Timmy Russert owe us a complete explanation of their relationships with the principals in this case and how they could keep quiet for all these years knowing who leaked Plame's name. They had no binds to Fitzgerald or the Grand Jury...they could have spoken out last year.

Meantime, the lies and misinformation continues. I swear David Brock and his team at Media Matters must be going nuts.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 09:43 AM
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10. Who Isikoff? HA! Check out Isikoff's latest BREAKING news (from yesterday)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9831216/site/newsweek/

Fabricated Links?
A CIA report casts new doubt on links between Iraq and Al Qaeda. Plus, tensions between FBI Director Bob Mueller and his predecessor, Louis Freeh.


Updated: 7:07 p.m. ET Oct. 26, 2005
Oct. 26, 2005 - A secret draft CIA report raises new questions about a principal argument used by the Bush administration to justify the war in Iraq: the claim that Saddam Hussein was "harboring" notorious terror leader Abu Mussab al-Zarqawi prior to the American invasion.

The allegation that Zarqawi had visited Baghdad in May 2002 with Saddam's sanction—purportedly for medical treatment—was once a centerpiece of the administration's arguments about Iraq. Secretary of State Colin Powell cited Zarqawi's alleged visit in his speech to the United Nations Security Council. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld referred obliquely to Zarqawi's purported trip as an example of "bulletproof" evidence that the administration had assembled linking Saddam's regime with Al Qaeda.

But like the uranium yellowcake claims—since determined to be fraudulent—that are at the heart of the CIA leak case, the administration's original allegations about Zarqawi's trip also seem to be melting away. An updated CIA re-examination of the issue recently concluded that Saddam's regime may not have given Zarqawi "safe haven" after all.

The CIA declined to comment on the draft report. But officials tell NEWSWEEK that Zarqawi probably did travel to the Iraqi capital in the spring of 2002 for medical treatment. And, of course, there is no question that he is in Iraq now—orchestrating many of the deadly suicide bombings and attacks on American soldiers.

But before the American-led invasion, Saddam's government may never have known he was there. The reason: he used an alias and was there under what one U.S. intelligence official calls a "false cover." No evidence has been found showing senior Iraqi officials were even aware of his presence, according to two counterterrorism analysts familiar with the classified CIA study who asked not to be identified because of the sensitivity of the matter.

An intelligence official told NEWSWEEK that the current draft says that "most evidence suggests Saddam Hussein did not provide Zarqawi safe haven before the war. It also recognizes that there are still unanswered questions and gaps in knowledge about the relationship."

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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 10:01 AM
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11. Did Tweety say anything about *'s "nobility" today?
He's used that word to describe Bush twice in the past week. I read about the first occasion here, heard Tweety use the word again a day or two later (though he admitted then that he'd been criticized for applying that word to Bush). The first time he talked about *'s "sunny nobility." He didn't use the word "sunny" the next time.
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sproutster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 10:02 AM
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12. CNN: After 9/11 we chose to believe worst case senarios
If Saddam *might* have WMD's, Saddam DOES have WMD's.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 10:04 AM
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13. Ok InCompetence is not an excuse!!! In the Law your Liable
Chris!!! Get a Grip!!!
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 10:07 AM
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15. If you ever get a minute....
go to one of the Kennedy Assasination sites and stream the live NBC coverage from that day. Real reporters, real reporting...and then realize that everything they said that day was a plant and a lie. nothing ever changes...
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 10:17 AM
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16. Hey, they accidentally forged the Niger documents
It can happen to anyone. You stumble over a chair and before you know it your word processer has typed and printed a passable forgery, you look at it, think its looks real and run with it.

Hey, happens to me at least once a month.

/s
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 10:20 AM
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17. CMON! These people still haven't woken up!
America must still be groggy... when will she be fully awake and aware that we were duped into the war?
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