44 and never married... (Fitz)

[Writer]

Give me theories as to why - quick!

[Connie_Corleone]

1. He's a bachelor.

and likes it like that.

[FreedomAngel82]

2. Married to his job

[Mr_Spock]

84. Yep, n/t

[Dulcinea]

168. That's what I think too.

Too busy pursuing the bad guys to settle down.

[readmoreoften]

57. If he brings the BFEE down...

then he'll be the biggest hearthrob for liberal women and gay boys that this nation's ever seen! He'll be the Brad Pitt of politics.

[readmoreoften]

61. Correction...

If he brings down the BFEE, Brad Pitt will be the Patrick Fitzgerald of Hollywood.

[wookie294]

114. Thank you

I'm a man almost Fitz's age. It gets annoying when people think there's a "big mystery" reason why I've never been married and have no interest in it. There is NO MYSTERY, folks, and no "interesting" explanation for it. I ain't that interesting. Sometimes I feel like I should "out" myself as "gay" (even though I'm hetero) just so people will leave me alone on this issue. LOL. I may do it! Marry Fitzmas!

[3waygeek]

125. I'm in the same boat

turning 43 in 2 weeks and haven't had so much as a date in 15 years.

[Sanity Claws]

3. His mother wanted him to be a priest

I'm Irish and I would not be surprised if there were a grain of truth in my answer.

[Nikki Stone1]

119. I'm Catholic and wouldn't be surprised either.

:D

[Patiod]

164. Irish men are among those w/the highest age of first marriage

It could be a cultural thing.

[ck4829]

4. Too busy fighting evil

Sometimes when a person fights crime and evil, they have to put romance aside for the moment.

[Marnieworld]

5. workaholic

It was debatable that he would have enough time for a cat.

[highplainsdem]

21. A robot cat, maybe.

He does sound like the complete workaholic.

[janx]

6. He didn't want to get married.

?

[Glenda]

36. Wow! I think you came up with the right answer!! n/t

[Hobarticus]

101. No, no, no....too simple! There must be something else! n/t

[nookiemonster]

163. There goes that damn "Occams Razor" again.

:)

n/t

[CottonBear]

7. He hasn't found the right woman yet which is great news for us Fitz Fans!

:loveya:

[FreedomAngel82]

27. Oh yes

Wait till he meets cute innocent sweet me. :P Plus I'm young enough to keep him on his toes but yet legal. ;)

[SeaNap05]

127. Hey There.....

I'm not married :eyes:

[ldf]

112. or, he hasn't found the right man.

you never know!

i, too, think he is quite attractive.

add to that mix fairness and nonpartiality, and :loveya:

[CottonBear]

130. You are right that I should not assume who he would choose to date!

You would be very lucky if he found you as the right man!
He seems to be a good guy and very attractive to all of us!
It's his brains and determination along with fairness and nonpartiality that really turn me on. (Don't tell Mr. CottonBear about my Fitz crush, OK?!) ;)

:hi:

[mattomjoe]

8. He's a lesbian?

:sarcasm:

[Nikki Stone1]

116. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:D

[Touchdown]

9. Umm. Hasn't met the right girl, gay, enjoys sex too much.

Why is this an issue?

[The Witch]

10. He's like Bruce Wayne.

Not-so-costumed crimefighter so dedicated to his mission he has very little time for love, much less family.

[indie_voter]

38. LOL!! Great answer. n/t

[Zen Democrat]

141. Superman's Song -- Crash Test Dummies

Superman never made any money
Saving the world from Solomon Grundy
And sometimes I despair
The world may never see another man like him.

-- Maybe Fitz is a man like him.

[savemefromdumbya]

153. I'll buy him a new coat

I'm sure there will be a fan club web site somewhere. Fitz teeshirts etc

[Demobrat]

11. Doesn't want to.

In his case, eligibility is definately not a problem, so it's obviously his choice.

[Stephanie]

12. Hasn't met ME yet.

If someone would just arrange and introduction we could get him married off right away.

[Writer]

16. Ha! Wouldn't it be nice just to take him out for coffee sometime?

A nice chat? I think that would be splendid.

[FreedomAngel82]

28. I'll do better

I'll make him lasagna he never got to eat!!!

[Writer]

41. Ah! The food method!

The quickest way to a man's heart. ;)

[Stephanie]

49. Never fails

Men are simple creatures.

[DeepModem Mom]

17. LOL! Go get'im, girl! nt

[Ellen Forradalom]

74. Take a number

He has a large fan club.

[Renew Deal]

81. NO SEX THREADS!!!

:silly:

[Renew Deal]

77. I can vouch for Stephanie.

She's nice :evilgrin:

[Delphinus]

98. Stephanie,

:yourock: I was just getting ready to sign-off when I saw your reply and laughed OUT LOUD! Thank you for such a wonderful answer!!!! I'm going to smile for hours now!!!

[im10ashus]

122. I purposely looked at this thread to see if you had posted.

I SO have to get you two together. Hmmm. Now how to do that.

If he doesn't shop in your mall, perhaps Mr. 10ashus and I can open our relationship to this super hero.

[Kurovski]

146. Or maybe me!

But marriage still ain't legal for double-dude households. :shrug:

[murielm99]

13. The righties might try to use that against him.

We have to be quick to point out that Roberts did not marry until he was 40. Condiliar is not married. Neither is that Harriet woman.

[tularetom]

14. Ruh Roh I can see the smear coming now

questions about Fitz's sexuality will begin to be asked on various faux shows and hate radio outlets. Remember the innuendo about Richard Clarke?

[rinsd]

68. Or the innuendo about Roberts or Miers....

...DU isn't exactly innocent from throwing that kind of crap around.

[patcox2]

69. Innuendo?

I just can't figure out why anyone who is gay would be a republican. Its endlessly amazing.

[shaniqua6392]

15. I think that by tomorrow afternoon....

he could have his choice of any liberal woman in the country who would be happy to be with him...that is if he has good news for us!!

[Demobrat]

23. Even if he doesn't.

Integrity being in such short supply these day.

[long_green]

29. if he delivers he can marry me

I get to be the husband, though.

[Butterflies]

169. I know. I've got a HUGE crush on him

I'd even like to put a poster of him in my bedroom (and I'm in my early 40s!)

He's especially attractive because he's smart, he doesn't go after the publicity, and he looks so good with his long lanky body. His eyes must be blue . . .

[Chiyo-chichi]

18. I'm about to turn 44.

Married for 16 years, now divorced. Marriage is over-rated. Fitz is smart.

[Ellen Forradalom]

73. amen to that

Also fortysomething here. DUers familiar with me will know I'm not a fan of that institution.

[DS1]

19. Too busy banging Mrs. V Plame

:hide:

[Catherine Vincent]

34. Oh no he isn't!

I can't see him with any woman....






















































except me.;-)

[NashVegas]

20. Emotional Basketcase

..

[TheCowsCameHome]

22. He's smarter than most of us.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

44. Best answer in this thread. (nt)

[thereismore]

24. I think pursuit of truth gives him a rush. Why marry. nt

[karlrschneider]

25. I'm 63, never married.

And your theory is probably right. :D
:evilgrin:

[roguevalley]

65. 100 hour work weeks, sleeps in office sometimes, not good husband

potential there but a Supreme Court nominee if ever I did see one.

RV, 52 and never married. (Thank god.) ;)

[amandabeech]

75. And therefore breaks dates all the time,

thus causing potential girlfriends to give up and him to decide it's just not worth it to hear the constant complaints.

Secretly, though, I'm sure he regrets losing at least one such lady.

[htuttle]

117. They ALL regret at least one lost love

Sherlock Holmes, Hercule Perot, Nero Wolfe and even the Lone Ranger (IIRC).

[kestrel91316]

135. Betcha you're right.

[applegrove]

26. Gets totally lost in his job & interests. Wouldn't make a good husband

to most. That is not where his brain is.

[FreedomAngel82]

31. Probably right

He seems way involved in his work. If he doesn't have time to eat lasagna he made why would he have time for love? Kind of sad. :cry:

[applegrove]

39. Not really. Some people find their "bliss" more easily than others.

And they have the capacity to focus on one thing and live that "bliss" day in and day out.

Like the female activist who never married. Like the religious person who devotes their life to helping children in very poor places.

You should never feel sorry for people who are easily "blissed".

[Lisa]

56. and if that's so, kudos to him for deciding that

I have several colleagues who are miserable now (along with their spouses) because they caved in to parental or peer pressure and got married when they probably shouldn't have. They would have been perfectly content to be solitary, with the added benefit of not complicating matters for anybody else.

[applegrove]

60. Exactly. Marriage is a huge committment. Why do it wrong when you

are into other things? It makes perfect sense.

[Lisa]

109. my guess is that I would do it wrong, whether or not I had other things!

I have often been told that I "should be so lucky as to have a one-track mind".

And there are plenty of times when I get home at midnight after straightening out an unexpected mess at work, and think, "if I had a husband, this would have wrecked his evening as well". Besides being unfair to him, it wouldn't bode well for our future together.

[applegrove]

123. Exactly. You have to willfully give up that "ability to get lost in what

you are doing" to be in a relationship. More and more people are living single lives. Marriage should be a choice. It is good that people stop and think before they do something "because they should" or "to look good".

You can have a great life with family & good friends. As long as you have your health and are not being stalked or targetted for destruction by sociopaths - you can have a great life. But it is a choice. And nothing wrong with someone who "easily finds bliss" getting married and having a family too - again - most people who have always wanted that - find it. Some get sidetracked and say "gee - I never had kids".

Me - I have a hard time "hearing" and find talking to most people absoutely exhausting. I just keep making the choice to be alone. And nothing wrong with that.

[applegrove]

134. Though I miss my friends - for reasons that I have to be cautious about.

For now.

[Maru Kitteh]

138. If he was expecting some TV romance novel idea of marriage perhaps

But if he actually loved YOU, including your crazy hours and your commitment to work.... then he would probably wake just enough as you came into bed to throw a lightly warm arm around you - and you would feel him smile.

That's bliss.

[applegrove]

139. Cool! Would that not be what all his palls hope for him if he is in fact

not gay. Perchance his social activities during the day wear him out and he needs all that time to download, alone. Who knows. Chances are, as a famous man, all sorts of opportunity will arise. Hey - Kucinitch found someone to love?? There is someone for just about everyone.. and maybe fame helps that along.

[Catherine Vincent]

30. He's holding out for me!

:)

[fooj]

32. BFD! He's married all right...to his work!

Peace.

[MidwestTransplant]

33. He and Harriett never met eachother

[Liberal Dose]

35. When he puts on a pair of glasses, he becomes a middle class American male

who lives in suburbia, has a decent looking wife and 2.4 children. He drives 35.92773 miles to and from work every day, taking an hour each way. On Saturdays, he enjoys a semi-platonic romance with his Karate/Karaoke instructor (Bruce LaShay). Once he takes off said glasses, VOILA, we ask questions concerning what appears to be a lack of partner in his life. }(

[willing dwarf]

37. He met me back in our college days and has been waiting for me ever since!

[astroBspacedog]

40. I'm 50 and never married.

Why?------- I guess I'm just another one of those Bruce Wayne types.

[Writer]

45. Okay. Here's my theory...

He's dealt with some rotten folks in the past. The mafia. Al Qaeda. If he marries, he might as well stick a target on that poor woman's head.

The man CAN'T marry.

[donco6]

42. He's kinda cute.

I'd date him!

On edit, don't let my husband see this.

[Politicub]

Because he's secretly in love with ME

Me and Fitz, sitting in a tree...

(you know the rest)

:loveya:

[MoonRiver]

43. He's only 44! There's lots of time.

I've had several friends who didn't marry until their forties. They were just concentrating on careers up until then.

[leftchick]

46. I heard he was 42

My father married late in life and had six children. Men have a bit of an advantage in waiting to settle down over women. He also happens to be very career driven which doesn't leave him much time to date I would imagine.

[Sanity Claws]

50. No, he's a few months short of his 45th birthday

His birthdate is 12/22/60.

[malaise]

85. Wow he was a Fitzmas present

to his parents. Come on Fitz!! DOn't make me wait much longer!

[undeterred]

47. During our nap together this afternoon he told me

that there are still many DU women he hasn't cuddled up with yet and that wouldn't look good if he were married.

[foreverdem]

58. Yeah..

He told me the same thing as he was leaving my house. Must have been right before he headed over to your place.

[undeterred]

59. ...

:) I don't mind sharing. :)

[foreverdem]

62. I don't either

But only with you guys!! :-)

[DeepModem Mom]

83. That's good -- very good, undeterred!

[Sanity Claws]

93. You napped with him?

Sweetie, that's not what you're supposed to do with a guy in bed.

[terip64]

48. I don't know but I find him quite attractive.

[shenmue]

51. Theories? Why?

Who cares?

Maybe's he's...happy.

:wow:

[Lisa]

52. like me -- his vocation takes up all his time!

And perhaps he's found that working hard at a job you like, and having no marriage, is better than doing a half-assed job and "settling" (for a particular relationship just because other people expect you to be married at that age).

If that's the case, I can certainly understand.

[npincus]

53. maybe he hasn't met his soulmate yet.. volunteers?

[DeepModem Mom]

54. Somebody in DeepModem Dad's office just said they thought Fitz was gay...

but I think they assume this of anyone 44 and unmarried.

Not that it matters one whit, but if they want to spread rumors that he's gay, they'd best look at their own pot before they call our kettle black.

[peekaloo]

79. mess with their heads

tell them he's been spotted around town with Ken Mehlman.

:evilgrin:

[DeepModem Mom]

80. LOL!

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

55. If marriage makes you better..I'm 3 times as qualified as he is.

And, some celebs would be overqualified by a factor of 10.

Note: Keep tryin' 'til you get it right. This last one has lasted 25+ years. Her third also.

[LSK]

63. hes smart?

[CatBoreal]

64. I'm sensing the creation of...

The Patrick Fitzgerald Estrogen Brigade?

Should we send him some flowers courtesy of the DU women??

[janx]

66. Fitzgerald and the grand jurors, male or female

should get flowers from us. :hi:

[pilgrimsoul]

67. He could have Aspergers

They tend to be SCARY smart and not very comfortable with personal intimacy.

Then again, his personal integrity may simply be so high that he doesn't want to shortchange a romantic partner. He's so absorbed by his job, maybe he just thinks it wouldn't be fair to the other person because he'd never be able to put them first. I have to respect that if it's true. He strikes me as the kind of guy who is totally honest, both with others and with himself.

We need more men like that in this world, especially the ones in governing positions.

[patcox2]

70. They also tend not to have a lot of empathy

or sympathy for those who are not as smart, which to me are attributes which do not commend them to be in positions of power. I think its highly unlikely Fitz would have aspergers, he is a trial lawyer, to be succesful in that endeavor it is much more important to have EQ than IQ.

[Sanity Claws]

71. I agree

He doesn't have Aspergers. He seems to have a sense of humor, something Aspergers people don't. Also, he is said to be very polite. Aspergers people lack the ability to read social cues to be polite.

[A-Possum]

72. a couple of the funnier guys I know

have been diagnosed with high-functioning aspergers. One is my nephew and he's hilarious. Of course I don't believe the diagnosis, myself. But there you are.


The other is his dad, and I would definitely believe he's got aspergers. Definitely "off" on the social vibes. But also quite witty (he just chuckles to himself usually, as if the rest of us didn't hear him, but what he says is very funny and we laugh too.)

Interesting about Fitzgerald. The total lack of leaks.

[MADem]

140. I know someone in that same boat

Smart as a whip but only on the subjects he likes, not a real touchy feely type, not a social butterfly, but able to muster enormous empathy. He is by nature a kind soul, born that way and well raised to boot. Very witty, too.

A very unique individual, and the world is better for having him in it.

[MN ChimpH8R]

91. Not entirely true

I an VERY Asperger's and I have no problem being polite in everyday situations. In fact rudeness of any kind really gets on my nerves.

I am completely incapable of thinking outside my own head or reading people's gestures and body language, however. And I've been told since I was 3 that I am scary smart. I also have a sense of humor though it tends to be either very caustic or rather surrealistic. I am also in my mid-40s and have never been on a date.

[Sanity Claws]

94. I guess my message wasn't clear

I certainly don't mean to imply that Aspergers people are rude. A person must be a good read of social cues to know when to apologize or take a different tack with someone. Fitz must be a good read of his audience, the jury, since he is a good trial attorney. He also must also be a good read of how witnesses are likely to come across to the ordinary Joe. From what I understand of Aspergers, they don't pick up on these social cues.

[MN ChimpH8R]

100. Generally agreed

Good trial lawyers tend to either have a touch of acting ability or be low-key, organized, hyper-logical types who can explain the complex in straightforward terms. I am a lawyer and have worked for judges and I've seen both types be very successful, but I suspect Fitz is the latter type.

[Alcibiades]

126. Folks with Asperger's are high-functioning

All of the things that are listed as symptoms can be overcome. Intelligent people with mental disorders have an easier time adapting to their problems, which is why it can be hard to diagnose some conditions, especially Asperger's, which is by definition a disorder of the high-functioning individual.

According to the Autism Society website:

"Children with autism are frequently seen as aloof and uninterested in others. This is not the case with Asperger's Disorder. Individuals with Asperger's Disorder usually want to fit in and have interaction with others; they simply don't know how to do it."

Again, much of this can be overcome with training. Not everyone with Asperger's Disorder manifests every symptom. Thus, folks with Asperger's "may be socially awkward", "may show a lack of empathy," "may have limited eye contact," etc. As for humor, I, for one, think I have a wicked sense of humor, but nobody else understands it.

I think he may well have Asperger's. Some folks with the disorder have savant-like traits (it is a form of autism). I, for example, am a universal genius (actually, I have only a few useless splinter skills, such as the ability to recall song lyrics). Fitzgerald may have some savant-like memory skills, according to one article: "Strikingly intelligent, he had a gift for distilling huge amounts of complex information into a simple, understandable narrative that his classmates could understand." One of his friends is cited: "''He was born with an amazing brain," Bouza said. Fitzgerald always took pains to be ''unassuming and nonintimidating," Of course, it's easy to be unassuming when your natural impulse is to look at the floor! He did play rugby, which would tend to be indicative of his not having Asperger's (as most of us are klutzes, which disinclines us toward athletics), but then one of my friends who has Asperger's was a star football player, so you never know.

[MADem]

142. But if his favorite subject is THE LAW, then picking up on cues

during interrogations would be part and parcel of his area of 'scary smart' expertise. Perhaps he can read his witnesses and targets like a book, but doesn't notice if his mother is out of sorts...

[Alcibiades]

129. And women don't have the muscle mass to become bodybuilders

but some of them do. I also disagree with the old "Folks with Asperger's don't have empathy" canard. There's nothing like always being the odd man out to give one a sense of empathy and sympathy; the fact that many of us have problems demonstrating empathy should not be taken as evidence of a lack of empathy itself.

What's lacking in social skills, seemingly innate in so many people, can be compensated for through rote memorization for people with Asperger's. Social systems are a series of complex interactions subject to a set of rules not unlike those that might govern a mathematical system. It's not terribly hard to learn that the proper response to a joke is to laugh, rather than to stare at the floor. I'VE LEARNED, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT IT'S A SOCIAL NORM NOT TO TYPE IN ALL CAPS. It's a silly rule normal people have made up that's completely arbitrary, but easy enough to remember. A reasonably intelligent person with Asperger's can learn their way around most social situations most of the time by their early twenties.

[MN ChimpH8R]

149. That's more true for today's younger Aspies

I am in my mid 40s and wasn't diagnosed until a few months ago. I have very minimal people skills - I have memorized enough to get through everyday business encounters, but I am always perceived as being "different." I have very few friends, and have never had a date, much less a relationship. I simply don't understand that kind of social interaction - it lacks logic and predictability. Aspies tend to live almost totally inside their own heads except when dealing the things that fascinate them.

There are a lot of resources out there now for kids w/Asperger's. When I was a kid, Asperger's wasn't even recognized. I was a weird kid and I grew up to be a weird adult. I've been told many times by experienced lawyers and judges that I am a brilliant legal analyst and writer, but my lack of social skills has relegated me to a law clerk position though I graduated from law school (the same one Fitz graduated from, but three years later) more than 15 years ago.

AS for empathy, my experience is that it's not absent, but it manifests itself in a more abstract way. I get much more upset about seeing something like the post-Katrina carnage than I do if something bad happens to a friend or family member. Always feeling "different" is one of the reasons I am a moonbat liberal - I sympathize deeply with those on the outside, because that's where I am.

I suspect Fitz is borderline Asperger's.

[electropop]

157. MN, Alcie, et al,

Thanks so much for elevating this debate into an educational experience. You are teaching me a lot of interesting stuff.

My wife (whom I recently separated from) has occasionally suspected me of having Asperger's. I can relate to some of what you say. These days I do prefer being alone. I have always had a good analytical mind and am proud of my engineering skills. Lately I've been advising a candidate for Congress - this has come totally out of the blue and has nothing at all to do with anything preceeding it in my 46 years. Point is though, I am uncomfortable with people but I can usually read them well enough to win their friendship and speak persuasively. Women seem to find me facinating and sometimes become obsessed with me. I just don't seem to have the same kind of ability to feel and really connect.

Thanks for the food for thought.

edit: corrected my age

[MN ChimpH8R]

160. Interesting, and thaks for the comments

Women have always looked at me as a sexless cipher - a "straight gay friend" if you know what I am driving at. I cannot figure out how flirting works. It is not logical, nor is it linear or structured, and it depends on subtle body language. If it ain't logical and linear I don't get it, and body language is a complete mystery to me. It doesn't register anywhere in my brain. Like I said, I can fake my way through business situations, but the personal is a riddle wrapped in an enigma, shrouded in mystery. So I have learned to "be alone." I've never known anything else, as I was an only child.

Also, it's very hard for me to be interested in other people on a personal level and even harder to pretend to be. If I encounter someone I have a shared interest with, I have something to talk (incessantly) about. Otherwise, I have nothing to say. I'd rather be boiled in oil than walk up to someone and introduce myself, especially if it is a woman I find attractive.

[Alcibiades]

171. I know it's completely unrelated

and this has somehow become an Asperger's mini-thread, but I only know one other person who has it. Anyway, I can totally relate to what you say about women. My wife says I am utterly clueless about women, that they have to hit me over the head to indicate any interest in me. If they spend a lot of time with me chatting, or whatever, I'll just think she wants to be a buddy--my wife will see the same interaction and report that she thinks so-and-so wants to fuck me. I don't think she's just jealous, either--my interactions with women from back when I was single pretty much tended to confirm my "if you think they are even remotely interested in you as a friend, then they really want is to have sex" or even a relationship, hypothesis.

So I guess what I'm saying is, how do you know all these women want you to be their straight gay friend? They find you non-threatening, approachable and interesting. I've learned that, oftentimes, that's enough to get a woman interested in you romantically. A big plus is that you're a financially stable (I assume) man with no ex-wife or kids hanging around, at an age when lots of women have discovered that the moronic jock type or dangerous rebel type doesn't make a good husband. Without even knowing it, you are probably a chick magnet, and could probably do well with women ten years younger than you!

Not that I really understand what women want. I only know what my wife tells me. In addition to being a woman, though, she's also a psychologist, and so I find she's right about human nature a lot of the time.

[MN ChimpH8R]

174. Just the way they talk to me

I've had some VERY intimate confidences revealed to me in a couple of friendships that no woman would ever reveal to a guy who had showed interest in her or in whom she was interested.

I'd be happy to discuss this further, but could you please PM me? Some of this stuff I'd rather not talk about in a public discussion forum. I will say that I am anything but financially secure, though it's true that only my cat runs around my house.

[Lilith Velkor]

144. Untrue and unfair.

Aspies have lots of empathy, they just don't have social skills. The only totally honest people I know are Aspies, it is their curse and their gift.

[patcox2]

150. I thought I read that the inability to pick up social cues

stemmed from the inability to put themselves inside the other person's head. I have a few aspergery traits, I know several people with more than I. One of them, it comes out so strong, always stands 2 inches from you, but the verbal habits really show it, completely and utterly self-referential. Never says "It rained," or "There was a lot of traffic" or "the concert was great." Instead its always I got rained on" or "I was surrounded by traffic." just cannot see the point ov view of others.

But anyway, not being critical, its a trait, a habit, everyone has good and bad ones, there are positives and negatives.

[Lilith Velkor]

170. The ways of neurotypicals are mysterious indeed.

[anitar1]

147. Fitz has a Pices moon and Cancer rising,

he has lots of empathy and feelings, maybe too much. but his Capricorn keeps him on track and rather detached, but single minded about his job.

[KamaAina]

78. It's not so much that I'm not very comfortable with personal intimacy

it's that the females aren't very comfortable with personal intimacy as regards me. :( Their radar always seems to read, "Safe male friend who won't try anything".

[Blue_Roses]

76. He's not married! WOW!

I thought he was married and had a couple of kids! He's so cute!

[maxsolomon]

82. 42 & never married here

i prefer shacking up.

george clooney - also not married.

[onenote]

86. who cares?

Which is also how I felt about all the silly posts speculating that Roberts must be gay because he didn't get married until he was 41.

onenote

[WI_DEM]

87. Who Cares?

[natrat]

88. EARTH TO WRITER---why?

[chat_noir]

89. MBTI (Myers Briggs) Introvert?

INTJ & INFJ
Without introverted intuitives, it is said that Israel would have had no prophets. Under deceptively conventional appearances lie perceptive minds that travel the breadth and depth of universal mysteries, contemplating its multilayered complexity, seeking the trends that will define the future. With time, clarity of vision comes. When it comes, they are propelled towards the vision and all their actions lead to it. They are perseverant behind a quiet exterior and will often come back with their vision long after everyone believes they have let it go.

What they see is so clear and obvious to them they are often surprised to find that others cannot see it as well. They may find it difficult to articulate the necessary steps towards implementation or to explain how each goal fits into the larger picture.

Their mind usually travels from the past to the future, seeking to fit a particular situation in a large context. It picks up patterns, symbols and images from different seemingly unrelated fields, identifies similarities and provides meaning. This can help solve problems by juxtaposing ideas, finding analogies or simply by rooting out the quintessential reality, discovering the origin in universal stories and human experiences, culling wisdom from the infinitely small to the infinitely large. Their mind naturally travels from the microcosm to the macrocosm.

They regularly have to face the difficulties of bringing dreams into reality. The time and effort it takes is always more than what their intuition initially suggested. They are determined, perseverant, inspired and often see things just around the corner, into the near or far future.


INTP & ISTP
Rodin's Thinker is introverted. Here these thinkers ponder the apparent chaos of the world in order to extract from it the universal truths and principles that can be counted on. These principles, once extracted, will provide the logical structure on which to build strategies.

They have a finely nuanced ability to analyse situations, find root causes and foresee consequences. They distrust action taken too quickly without the necessary investigation. They are usually levelheaded, objective, impersonal yet intensely involved in problem solving. They are fiercely independent, seeking input and comments from a chosen few. When reporting to others, they need to establish credibility first: their own and that of the person they are reporting to. If the gap in knowledge and expertise is too great and their own proficiency dismissed, belittled or ignored, they will lose interest and motivation.

They are less interested in running the world as they are in understanding it. They are curious and capable of explaining complex political, economic or technological problems, taking great pleasure in explaining all the factors and intricacies. They are rigorous with their thoughts and analysis, choosing the exact words that convey precisely what is meant. They may spend a lot of time defining words, concepts and systems in order to define a problematic solution.

They are armchair detectives, scientists and philosophers, spending most of their time in quiet reflection to ponder truth, and solve mysteries. They may tend to neglect social requirements and responsibilities, finding many relationships to be too superficial to be of much interest.



ISTJ & ISFJ

Dependable, reliable and trustworthy, they like to belong to solid organisations that are reasonable in their ambitions and loyal to their employees. They feel useful when their roles and responsibilities are clearly established and they can monitor their activities and productivity in tangible ways. They tend to be rather modest, traditional and conventional, to like sensible clothing, to be thrifty, careful and wise with both money and possessions.

Once they accept a project, they will see it to the end. They manage their time well and are realistic about how much time and resources will be needed.

They tend to like to stay in one neighbourhood, often choosing to live close to where they were themselves raised. They are often involved with volunteer organisations and have a developed sense of citizenship and accountability. When they purchase something, it is after careful consideration; rarely will they buy something without having a known need or use for it. They may keep possessions for a lifetime and treasure those that were given to them.

They tend to have a good memory for specific facts that are necessary in their day-to-day life at work and at home. They accumulate facts and details to orient themselves, relying on repeated experiences that have been proven trustworthy. A fact once experienced may be the product of circumstance and happenstance; it is not in and of itself reliable. When an introverted sensing type hears an idea, they rummage through reams of archived facts to find an experience that provides information for the relevance and realism of an idea. When an introverted sensing type utters, "It's never been done!" they are saying that no information about the relevance or usefulness of the idea is available to them. They tend to shy away from surprises and what is perceived as unnecessary change.


INFP & ISFP

Usually gentle and kind, they are intense and passionate about their values and deeply held beliefs, which they share with trusted friends. Because of their discreet manner, their enthusiasm may not be apparent. They are sensitive to others' pain, restlessness or general discomfort and strive to find happiness, balance and wholeness for themselves in order to help others find joy, satisfaction and plenitude. They are deeply empathetic.

They live life in an intently personal fashion, acting on the belief that each person is unique and that social norms are to be respected only if they do not hinder personal development or expression. They strive to adhere to their own high personal moral standards and are particularly sensitive to inconsistencies in their environment between what is being said and what is being done. Empty promises of adhering to something they value – such as environmental causes or human rights - set off an inner alarm and they may transform themselves into modern day Joan of Arcs.

They are quietly persistent in raising awareness of cherished causes and often fight for the underdog in quiet or not-so-quiet ways. In a team, they will raise issues of integrity, authenticity, and good or bad, and may to opt out if the team refuses to address the questions raised.

They are usually tolerant and open-minded, insightful, flexible and understanding. They live for the understanding of others and feel deeply grateful when someone takes the time to get to know them personally. They have good listening skills, are genuinely concerned, insightful, and usually avid readers. At their best, they inspire others to be themselves.

http://www.personalitypathways.com/type_inventory2.html

[Sanity Claws]

95. INTJ is a good fit for an attorney

If I remember correctly.

[MN ChimpH8R]

96. FWIW, there's a considerable overlap

between Asperger's and INTJ personality types. I'm both.

[Bouncy Ball]

155. I'm an INFJ.

Rarest, weirdest type, apparently. LOL, of course.

And that part about a conventional exterior? So true in my case.

[Fescue4u]

90. He's either Gay

or VERY smart.

[MADem]

143. How old was the new Chief Justice when he got married??? 41?

He is 50, and he married in 1996...

[Catrina]

92. Maybe he lost the love of his life

at some point, and has not been able to get close to anyone since. Maybe she cheated on him, and now he doesn't trust women anymore, at least not with his emotions, which I imagine he doesn't share easily. If he was hurt that way, I could see him burying himself in his job.

I know someone who had that happen to him, and it took years before he trusted another woman. He was gorgeous too, could have had any woman he wanted. But he was hurt too deeply by the first woman he had loved.

[LittleClarkie]

97. He's a lesbian

Oh wait, that was Meirs. Never mind.

[Ksec]

99. Hes a perfectionist

These types have a really hard time finding women who can meet their high standards. Especially today with the quality of women plumetting amd us men becoming greater and greater everyday....

[Writer]

102. LOL!

Oh you poor soul.

Where's my popcorn?

:popcorn:

[Ksec]

103. Well you know its true.

But you and I know these "women" will never admit it.

:)

[Writer]

108. So I have a little confidence, all right?

I'm 30. Working on my Master's. If I weren't married, I think I could catch his eye and his mind.

But that's a tough thing to type online to strangers who have never met me...

and the question is moot for me, anyhow. :shrug:

But here's to dreamin'! :toast:

[Ksec]

111. Seriously, Id bet he has really high standards for EVERYTHING

Incompetence would not be acceptable. These guys usually have the same type of standards for relationships IMO.

And Fitzy would be lucky to snare a beauty like yourself.

[Writer]

113. Oh that's a very kind thing of you to say.

A part of me really does wish I could call him and take him out for coffee. (sigh)

[Missy Vixen]

107. Here it is -- the earworm of all time!

Just for you, this one's coming out of the wayback machine...

>us men becoming greater and greater everyday.<

Oh, Lord, It's Hard To Be Humble

Oh Lord it's hard to be humble
when you're perfect in every way.
I can't wait to look in the mirror
cause I get better looking each day.
To know me is to love me
I must be a hell of a man.
Oh Lord it's hard to be humble
but I'm doing the best that I can.
I used to have a girlfriend
but she just couldn't compete
with all of these love starved women
who keep clamoring at my feet.
Well I prob'ly could find me another
but I guess they're all in awe of me.
Who cares, I never get lonesome
cause I treasure my own company.
Oh Lord it's hard to be humble
when you're perfect in every way,
I can't wait to look in the mirror
cause I get better looking each day
To know me is to love me
I must be a hell of a man.
Oh Lord it's hard to be humble
but I'm doing the best that I can.
I guess you could say I'm a loner,
a cowboy outlaw tough and proud.
I could have lots of friends if I want to
but then I wouldn't stand out from the crowd.
Some folks say that I'm egotistical.
Hell, I don't even know what that means.
I guess it has something to do with the way that I
fill out my skin tight blue jeans.
Oh Lord it's hard to be humble
when you're perfect in every way,
I can't wait to look in the mirror
cause I get better looking each day
To know me is to love me
I must be a hell of a man.
Oh Lord it's hard to be humble
but I'm doing the best that I can.
We're doing the best that we can

[Cha]

104. My son is 38 and hasn't been

married, yet. He is engaged now and will be married in January of 2006, I think.

Late Bloomer in the marriage department..Fitz seems devoted to his work for one thing.

Who knows what else is happening..we're all so individual.

[napi21]

105. He's definately married to his job!

He apparently loves what he does, and simply hasn't allowed time for women in his life; at least the long term commitment type.

[Missy Vixen]

106. He's still pining away for me

We met, he begged me to marry him, I told him I just couldn't marry a Republican...;-) :blush: :woohoo:

Patrick, we'll always have Fitzmas. :loveya:

Julie

p.s. If my husband is reading this, of course you are the only man I have ever loved. ;-)

[robbedvoter]

110. Waited for fame and fortune so he could get ME!!!!

[Critters2]

115. He's entangled

with Judith Miller

[Deja Q]

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I think the repukes will say something similar, I suspect...

[trekbiker]

120. He can't stand Boredom..

[WinkyDink]

121. He's one of those righteous guys, just like

Nader. Seriously.
He's married to Justice.

[Alcibiades]

124. If he were rich

I'd say it's because of the culture of rich people. Lots of the rich bastards I know screw everything in sight until age 40 or so. At that point, they resign themselves to the reality that, for their class to perpetuate their domination, they must actually breed, so they find themselves a wife of the appropriate (i.e., their own) class. This wife must also be thin, 10-20 years younger, and as pretty as possible. The rich bastard then dies at 65, leaving his much younger widow with enough money to send the kids to college while she spends the rest of her life in dignified self-indulgence.

Of course, that's not Fitzgerald, who's a working-class gu from the Bronx. Perhaps he made a lot of rich friends in college, and picked up their habits/lifestyle? That's doubtful, though, because he's supposedly hard-working.

Perhaps he has no sex drive, and sublimates through his work? I'm stumped.

[donheld]

128. He's a playa

Don't be hatin.

[NewInNewJ.]

131. You can be happy without being married.

Not everyone is meant to marry, that's my opinion, although I have been married for 36 yrs.

[gogo69]

132. none of your business :-) n/t

[Pepper32]

133. He's married to his job?

[Maddy McCall]

136. He doesn't have time for a cat. Maybe he doesn't have time for a...

family.

He's dedicated to his work to the extent of workaholism.

[kestrel91316]

137. Some of us are just very dedicated professionals and never

got around to getting married. Workaholics...........

(almost 49 now and actually have a great BF finally, but we won't run away and get married until we retire - until then we have our together lives and our apart lives, works fine)

[AntiCoup2K4]

145. God I hate this fucking stereotype

39 and unmarried here. Sexual orientation has nothing to do with it. Shitty luck with women does. If I were gay, I would have had the same shitty luck with men, and I'd still be alone.

Really, this one has no basis in reality.

[gauguin57]

148. Pick me, Fitz! I've been alone so long, I wouldn't be able to stand the

attention, anyhow. So you can work all you want and I won't bug you. I just wanna bask in your glow, baby!

Sealed indictments (of prominent Republicans) are just so SEXY!

[electropop]

151. Chicks are all over him - look at our DUers.

Why buy the cow when you can have the milk for free?

[Dem Agog]

152. He's been holding out for Harriet Miers?

Naaaah!

:lol:

[Lorien]

154. Is marriage a requirement for something?

I'm 40 and I've never been married (a two year engagement was enough).The world has over six billion "miracles" on it already, so why the pressure to pair up?

[savemefromdumbya]

156. Does Fitzy know he has a fan club?

he has a nice suit on today and a red tie

[leesa]

158. Didn't realize it was required.

[goodhue]

159. Who cares?

eom

[Norquist Nemesis]

161. It's N.O.O.B.

None
Of
Our
Business

[Hong Kong Cavalier]

162. A: Why do you care?

B: Why do you think it's your your business to know?
C: What's the game?
:eyes:

[meow2u3]

165. Well, I'm 45 and never married

What is all the fuss about people over a certain age never having found a suitable mate, unless it's conservatives who have a dirty mind and assume everyone unmarried is gay?


Fitz, if you're looking for a wife, just PM me :evilgrin:

[jobycom]

166. Cause he never got married, obviously. nt.

[lutefisk]

173. I'll go with that answer. Very funny. n/t

[sallyseven]

167. He is Irish. They marry late. He is also a work

alcoholic and no women will put up with that.

[Bucky]

172. He's terribly, terribly shy around women

Theory two... Victor/Victoria

[cap]

175. he's waiting for me to leave my husband...

:) ... just kidding!