Freepers hopes for Fitz investigation

[wtbymark]

This is their hopeful theory on what Fitz is really investigating. A lot of screwy speculation on "facts" that I have never heard.

"this is disinformation and counter spin to the revelation that the person who supplied the forgeries to the Italian security services has now come forward (this past week) and turned himself in to Italian authorities. He has admitted that he was a paid agent of the French DGSE and that they provided him the forgeries. He is saying he thought they were genuine.

Fitzgerald reportedly made a trip to Italy three weeks ago. If true, was it to show evidence of the French intelligence service's involvement in a plot to undermine the American government? A plot involving rogue elements in the CIA along with Joe Wilson and willing accomplices in the MSM?

If the above is true the French would have every incentive to eliminate their agent/dupe so that he can't implicate them, hence his coming forward as his only means of protecting himself.

The French had two motives for pulling off such an operation. First they were actively supporting Saddam and trying to stop the US from enforcing the peace agreement that ended GW1 and the subsequent UN resolutions. Second a French government owned company controls the yellow cake urnaium mining operations in Niger. There was already other intelligence that Saddam was working with this company to obtain yellow cake to replace the material under UN inspector seal so that he could restart his nuke program. The French created the forgeries and planted them in the intelligence community so that they could later be exposed as fakes. That would then discredit any other evidence as likely fake as well.

The elements within the CIA who mounted their end of the operation (e.g. sending a partisan opponent of President Bush to Niger) were desperate to deflect criticism for their pitiful failure for 30 years in dealing with islamic terrorism. They also have been in a war with Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld who are trying to clean house of the paper shufflers and clintonistas and this was a way to strike back.

The Plame / Wilson / Rove / Libby "scandal" is a bonus. That is unless Fitzgerald is actually investigating the underlying crime of treason exposed by the "leak" investigation.

Bits and pieces. That's how a good prosecutor builds a case. Wouldn't it be great if this is what Fitzgerald was doing? Imagine the rhetorical whiplash the MSM goons who have been praising Fitzgerald as "non partison" and "above politics" when they have to start attacking him. Of course, there are a few on the other side, such as Sean Hannity, who will have the opposite problem.

It would be fun."

17 posted on 10/27/2005 7:48:56 AM PDT by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)

[FreedomAngel82]

1. LOL

They're trying to blame the French now. :crazy:

[LondonReign2]

3. Either the French

or Clinton's penis. That is all the wingnuts can obsess about.

[Democrat 4 Ever]

4. Well, at least they are off of Clinton for a while.

Anything to keep the "children" busy and out of our hair!

[NorCalDem]

5. Aren't they always...

Revisionist history teaches us that France has been nothing but problems for America since our nations birth (their helping us win the Revolutionary War and thus BECOME a nation notwithstanding).

[VolcanoJen]

2. ROFL!!!! When blaming The Clenis fails... BLAME THE FRENCH!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

A quick trip by the Freepy to Josh Marshall's site would clear up any inaccuracies about the forged Italian memo.

[Boo Boo]

6. Sometimes I actually feel sorry for Freepers

This French connection theory was deep-sixed quite a while ago. It's non-operational. There is no French connection. It was a bullshit story. OTOH, this Freeper's "theory," however far-fetched (it's really, really far-fetched) is no more hare-brained than a lot of the stuff that gets posited here on DU.

People shore is funny critters.

[Loonman]

7. Freepers are spinning their wheels

Enough wacky theories to make Art Bell proud, over there.

[ET Awful]

8. LOL, yeah, those lousy French who were against invading Iraq

created forgeries to bolster the case against Iraq which the Bush administration accepted and presented in turn (without question).

The whole Iraq invasion is the fault of the French. Their objections to attacking Iraq were just a ruse to deflect attention from their real goal.

[alcibiades_mystery]

16. It's completely insane, isn't it?

And hilarious.

Imagine the mental blindspots that would allow somebody to miss the gaping flaw in that argument. I mean, you'd have to be completely gone.

[Loonman]

9. I like how they blame the CIA for bad Intel

When Bush and Cheney were sending them out to find anything at all about Iraq RE 9/11 and in general. They were giving the CIA info and saying "go prove this". That's not how it's done, you don't form a conclusion, and then go find evidence.

[Whoa_Nelly]

10. And according to a couple of FReeps, here's how it will all play out...

These had me :rofl:

To: TSchmereL
No, no, here's how it all goes down. Libby gets indicted and about 6 months later Cheney, claims he is exhausted from the stress of the constant hammering by the media and announces his resignation. Bush appoints Condoliza rice as VP and she is easily approved by the Congress. THEN about 16-18 months before the election GWB suddenly resigns due to an assassination attempt (arranged by the Architect) that wounds him to the point his doctors suggest he step down for health reasons. Rice becomes the president and runs in 2008 as an incumbent, blowing away the Dems.

On November 3rd the Democrats issue a statement claiming Rice is not really black but is the sister of Karl Rove and appears black due to skin coloring injections she began receiving 40 years ago. The Democrats call on all blacks to demand a re vote for the black population due to their being deceived by the "culture of corruption"

18 posted on 10/26/2005 2:55:46 PM PDT by Eagles Talon IV

And a response to the above naivete:

To: Eagles Talon IV
Well .. your daydream doesn't work! The Senate - which is home to Hillary Clinton - would not only NOT SUPPORT Condi Rice - they would try to rip her to shreds. Hillary would do WHATEVER IT TAKES to defeat Condi being in the VP spot - and as for anything happening to Bush - my prayers would never allow that!! Isa 54:17

Morris is out there saying Condi could beat Hillary .. and maybe Morris knows that Hillary is very fearful of Condi getting into the race.

Sorry to burst your bubble!



23 posted on 10/26/2005 3:01:15 PM PDT by CyberAnt (I BELIEVE CONGRESSMAN WELDON!)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1509779/posts#comment?q=1

[The Backlash Cometh]

11. Now, why didn't we think about doing this to Ken Starr?

If we knew then, what we know now, how difficult would it have been to prove that Ken Starr was pursuing a right-wing agenda?

[leeroysphitz]

12. Hey freeps, ever hear of Occam's razor? n/t

[MN ChimpH8R]

13. What are they taking over there?

Massive doses of ibogaine? LSD? Magic mushrooms? The CIA is a Dem stronghold - um-hm. Put down the damned crack pipe and back away from the table. Though I don't doubt that there are a lot of pissed-off spooks because of the Plame leak and because Chimpy had expected them to take the fall for all of this. They Freeps as disconnected from reality as the Chimp.

[Loonman]

15. losing Tenet and getting a yes-man like Goss

Ticked off a lot of the old guard. Plus Bush tried to pin the pre-war Intel debacle on them. Besides Porter Goss and his lackeys, there are probably very few Bush fans in the CIA. I surprised former CIA Diresctor George HW Bush hasn't slapped Dim Son for screwing up the agency.

[alcibiades_mystery]

14. The French "supported Saddam"

Therefore they forged evidence that allowed the US to overthrow him.

The logic is flawless....:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

These people are lunatics. The one positive step here: they're finally admitting that this investigation seems to be about something substantive. For some, the next small step would be away from this particular lunatic theory, and towards the truth.