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AztecGringo Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 07:59 PM
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Americans TRAPPED in Cancun!!!
And some wonder why we get labeled "Ugly Americans"...


"It said that about 3,200 Americans had already been bused from Cancun to Merida, where they were being flown to the United States.

Even so, pizzeria owner Bob Gleason of Napa, Calif., wasn't satisfied. He suggested government-organized cruise ships.

"They could put us all on board and get us out of Mexican territory," he said. "We need some way to get out of here.""



Perhaps, a little perspective is in order????



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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:01 PM
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1. i would think the military would have gotten them out by now.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:01 PM
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2. Well, well shall we send in
a nice cruise ship? (Naval Vessel) and make them stand watches?

There are days, but i am not surprised, I have seen this before. and they will blame mexico not their lack of foresight of NOT staying in a disaster zone when you have warning to get out
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:02 PM
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3. perspective indeed...
my sympathies are with the people who have lost everything, and can't look for a magic plane to wisk them back to a warm, rich, dry safe place.
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:02 PM
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4. Yeah it sucks, but Frontier Airlines is coming to the rescue.
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:02 PM
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5. Did they run out of margaritas?
what a bunch of pussies!
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:04 PM
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6. LOL.
:evilgrin:
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:05 PM
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7. Hmm..."trapped" in warm sunny tropical Cancun waiting for the Mexican army
Edited on Tue Oct-25-05 08:08 PM by Zinfandel
to come... and lotsa tequila, but no pizza's!
:smoke:
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:06 PM
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8. Maybe they should just cross the border, I hear its wide open
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:08 PM
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9. any missing blond bimbos? That will make CNN happy for a month
sorry about any insults to attractive blonds who know better.
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unschooler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:24 PM
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15. Ahem. Missing young women are not "bimbos." They're victims
of sexual violence, in most cases. Even the blondes.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:29 PM
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18. but what of the darker skinned ones, the males and everyone else?
My point is (sarcastic, obviously) that unless a blond attractive woman is affected, CNN will not spend the time of day on it. In that case, the dead or missing are nothing more than a statistic. It is much more important to stand outside in a storm and "show" how strong a wind can be.

Horrors! What if the hurricane destroyed the legal evidence in Aruba? Oh My Gosh! Conspiracy!

sorry. I am not against blonds. Bimbos. or anyone else, except neocon lying assholes. Ann Coulter comes close to crossing the line, but since Bill Maher has fun with it, I suppose I will give ann a break.

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unschooler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:31 PM
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20. You have my permission to call Ann Coulter anything you want.
And I got (and agree with) your point about the media.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:54 PM
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27. I REFUSE to call her for breakfast in the morning. Sorry.
on second thought, I am not sorry.

I know she has stated to some, tongue hin cheek, that she enjoys the love of idiots, and the wrath of smarter people, but i don't believe that she was being honest.


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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:13 PM
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10. Lazy American tourists not willing to cut their vacations short.
There was plenty of warning that Wilma was coming. These people just wanted to squeeze every minute out of their vacations and then whine when they're not evacuated by the government.

Screw 'em.
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:16 PM
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11. Also, Mexican govt more organized than the Americans re Katrina
I read an account in the newspaper in which pampered tourists were complaining, but they were getting food and water -- something the US was incapable of organizing in NO.

I guess the Mexican government is simply more competent and organized than the US government.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:18 PM
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12. It helps that hotels are required to have a plan
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AztecGringo Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:22 PM
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14. HUH?
As a taxpayer, I thought the US Government was ALSO supposed to have a plan......
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:26 PM
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16. For what a disaster in Mexico
Most countries areound the world require Hotels to have emergency plans for disasters, this way they make it easier for Emergency Workers, as teh last thing you need is 30K more people you absolutely need to take care off, or directly worry about.

In this case the hotels had an emergency plan and suplies, and it seems it worked...

And they are two separate things, the Local, State and Federal plans are separate from the Hotel's
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:51 PM
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25. Nope. The faith-based charities are supposed to do all the
hurricane relief.:sarcasm:

Gotta make sure the rich folks keep their tax cuts, you know. Can't have anybody actually SUPPORTING the government so it can serve the public.
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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:19 PM
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13. Wow
That really pisses me off. To hell with all the poor people who cater to tourist whims and have lost everything, right? They can't go back to their comfortable homes. Gaaahhhh! So irritating!
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:28 PM
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17. There was drama going on in my office today because of this.
Edited on Tue Oct-25-05 08:28 PM by BullGooseLoony
Some family friends of one of my co-workers are trapped in the area, and we were getting updates over the phone.

Here's what I heard:

A family was moved from a hotel near the coast inland, into a school, because of the hurricane. However, there was a prison break in the same town as that school once they were moved in. The prisoners surrounded the school with machetes, and people inside of the school had to be guarded by people with machetes, as well. Subsequently, they were somehow moved back to the hotel once the hurricane had passed, but were scared to leave because of the chaos going on outside.

They have been trying to contact the State Department, but didn't seem to have any luck in getting things moving.


And that was the last I heard.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:31 PM
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19. If they ahve relatives here
they can call state here

Teh closest consulate is at Merida... and trust me when I say this, some consular officials are very good, and will do what they can... (and the Mexican Government truly would love to get these tourists evacuated right now)

Other consular officials, don't get me started

The other thing they may want to do... is contact the mexican Red cross, they are signatories to the ICRC missing person program and may be able to arrange for a way out, the IRCR that is, not the Mexican Red Cross

just giving you some tools
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AztecGringo Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:37 PM
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22. News Reports and Newspapers there say nada..
I have been following the story by watching Mexico City news reports and reading newspaper articles from Mexico and have seen or read NOTHING of the sort...Sounds like bullshit to me....This WOULD have been reported given its sensational nature...
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fleabert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:58 PM
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28. all of the prisoners were caught, I read about it on one of the
cancun boards, the wall of the prison collapsed. The army caught all the prisoners within a few hours.

so far, no tourist deaths associated with the worst hurricane to ever hit Mexico, AFAIK.
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Autumn Colors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:34 PM
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21. Well, you know, * needs to keep them there.....
for a few more days as media headline camouflage....
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carolinalady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:37 PM
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23. All I have to say is, "Why can't they send those multi-million
dollar cruise ships we are paying for from LA? I don't think it is very far away.

:dunce:
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:42 PM
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24. these are probably some of the same ones yelling about the
"stupid n****rs" not leaving new orleans, I say what goes around comes around. Stay there for about a week or so or at least till food and water run out then maybe, just maybe you might have something to yell about, on second thought no they don't.If they had money to get to cancun they had money to get out before hand, F**K'em!!:nopity:
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dddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:54 PM
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26. People never cease to amaze me.
Edited on Tue Oct-25-05 08:56 PM by dddem
First they book their vacations during hurricane season because it's cheap, then they bitch because there's a hurricane during their vacation. Go figure. Don't get me wrong, it sucks that this happened, and I cetainly feel for any of the residents that lost their homes, but there's a reason they call it "hurricane season".
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fleabert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 09:03 PM
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29. It is very ugly.
Edited on Tue Oct-25-05 09:18 PM by fleabert
Mexico had a military presence before the hurricane hit, and debris is already being cleared. Last time I looked, NO still looks like a war zone, and not all the bodies have been discovered.

Mexico does not participate in foreign wars, therefore their military focuses primarily on servicing its citizens in times of crisis and natural disasters. They were extremely prepared.

the worst hurricane devastation to ever hit Mexico and there are what, less than 10 deaths? four of which were caused by a generator explosion? FL dealt with Wilma for barely a day, the Yucatan, for close to three, and yet there are less deaths in MX. Americans need to wake the fuck up, we are not #1.

update from the yucatan
http://stormcarib.com/reports/2005/mexico.shtml

lots of pics
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