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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 02:55 PM
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Condi blows smoke up Canada's ass RE: Gun control
http://www.recorder.ca/cp/National/051025/n102527A.html

Yeah, SURE you're doing all you can.... or anything for that matter.
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goju Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 02:58 PM
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1. Hmmm
Edited on Tue Oct-25-05 03:00 PM by goju
"John Thompson, a security analyst with the Toronto-based Mackenzie Institute, agreed that the Americans are doing a lot to combat gun-running. But he said Canada has a gang problem, not a gun problem"

Thompson said it's politically expedient for politicians to blame "those crazy, wacky Americans with their mad gun culture."

"It's playing to a Canadian prejudice and it's playing to their standard political supporters."

By blaming the Americans, politicians "don't have to talk about street gangs."


Thompson said gun-running is an adjunct to the drug business.

"If you're already moving narcotics around, bulk shipments of marijuana or cocaine or what have you, you're already moving an expensive, illegal property, so it's not that hard to move guns around too.

"Where you have drugs you have guns too."


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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 03:18 PM
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2. Yeah, google Mackenzie Institute and read their commentary
and one can see they are NOT pro-gun control. It was actually interesting reading, I had to wonder if those who contribute to the Mackenzie Institute also contribute to the Frazier Institute, I would certainly not be surprised.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 03:28 PM
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3. Frazer Institute Came out with a 5 point neocon plan last April. What
a bunch of yahoos! First thing on the list - start to privatize health care!!!

"Hello - Institute people? Um... Er... ahem..... the mood in the USA is moving towards public health care model because the private one has failed miserably..."

Encansed in frozen kool-aid or something.

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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 03:33 PM
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6. Either way, I wish these groups would stop soiling good Scot names
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 03:32 PM
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5. Trust me that group hold no water
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 03:32 PM
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4. Blame Canada
So thought that I would google this group.

City's battered Muslims wounded by baseless allegations
Wednesday, August 27, 2003 4:20 pm

Edmonton Journal, 27/8/2003
By Tim Weiss

(Tim Weis is an Edmonton member of CAIR-CAN’s advisory board)


Allegations and suspicions made in the public arena are very difficult to undo and more difficult to overcome - regardless of the poverty of their basis. It is for this reason that Edmonton’s Muslim community was baffled and disappointed to read in the Journal about defamatory statements made by the Toronto-based Mackenzie Institute that alleged the Al-Rashid mosque has links to extremism.

The so-called "proof": the Al-Rashid mosque is listed in the index of all Canadian Islamic centers on the Canadian website of the Muslim World League. After reading the article, anyone with access to the Internet could quickly see that there is no claim of affiliation between the hundreds of listed organizations and the website hosts. Even Canadian government departments are listed.

The Mackenzie Institute did not make its report available to the public and has refused to provide a copy to officials of Al-Rashid mosque who were faced with a serious allegation suddenly being printed citywide, based on nothing more than a list on the Internet. Given the vast and uncontrolled nature of the Internet, the emptiness of this claim is self-evident. Nonetheless, the fact that it was printed inevitably has real consequences for ordinary Canadian Muslims, calling into question our reputation and integrity.


http://www.caircan.ca/oped_more.php?id=497_0_10_0_C

Founded in 1986 in Toronto, the Mackenzie Institute is an independent non-profit organization concerned with issues related to political instability and organized violence. This includes such matters as terrorism, political extremism, warfare and organized crime.

http://www.mackenzieinstitute.com/

A Mackenzie Institute Occasional Paper
Canadian Attitudes Toward Gun Control: The Real Story

http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/Buckner/GUNCOVER.htm

It would be interesting to say the least to see the financial contributers for this institute.
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