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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 12:29 PM
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One DUer has been consistently right about the Plame investigation
OldLeftieLawyer.

Look at the posts. OldLeftieLawyer has been right every last time. We know nothing about this. Raw Story knows nothing. The NEw York Times knows nothing. The White House knows nothing.

The only person who knows anything about what he will or will not seek is Fitzgerald, and he isn't telling anybody until he's dang good and ready. And he may say nothing because he may seek no indictments. I suspect he will, but it's always a possibility that he won't.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 12:30 PM
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1. and if there is one thing that I know it is nothing
:)
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Skelington Donating Member (436 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:06 PM
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22. There are knowns and unknowns which we know,
and unknown knowns which we knew and, what we knew was unknown to the known masses untill they now know what knowns we now know.

P.S. what if the hokie pokie IS REALLY what it's all about?
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 06:40 PM
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41. LOL
:evilgrin: and :crazy: Parrothead? Welcome to DU. :hi:
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 12:31 PM
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2. If only we could get somene to sleep with him.
You know....Pillow Talk.:)
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jasmeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 12:32 PM
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3. He is kind of yummy!
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 12:35 PM
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4. We elect you to do that !
Edited on Tue Oct-25-05 12:44 PM by Sequoia
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 12:37 PM
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6. I'm game!
But this guy looks like he doesn't give up nothing!
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 12:41 PM
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9. so just what exactly are you getting at?
Are you talking about him giving up his secrets to you or just giving up himself? :evilgrin:
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 12:46 PM
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12. Both?
:blush:
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 12:48 PM
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15. Just pur-r-r-r-r!
Edited on Tue Oct-25-05 12:48 PM by Sequoia
and be furry like that cat/woman in the original Star Trek "Gary Seven".

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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 12:41 PM
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8. I'd volunteer!!!
Pick me!
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 12:42 PM
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11. Note to self... become a federal prosecutor...chicks dig that....
:)
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 12:52 PM
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19. LOL!
My good friend married the local public defender who is one sexy dude. He's sort of a blonde, American Hugh Grant type. He was quite the catch. Many women pursued him for quite a few years.
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 12:54 PM
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21. OOOHH!! I'm tellin'!
Thought you were "true blue to JK" ;) O8) :evilgrin: DC
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 12:42 PM
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10. I think "he" may be a "she."
I wonder what OldLeftieLawyer has to say about today's news of the possible forges Italian documents which were taken to someone at the White House?
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 12:47 PM
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14. Oh I know that. I was talking about the Fitz.
:D
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 12:50 PM
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17. Oh OK. I was confused. I agree Federal Prosecutors are sexy.
They are really smart and powerful too.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:20 PM
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28. Not all of them.
Ken Starr comes to mind. ;-)
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:42 PM
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30. Ew! Maybe he doesn't cout since he was a "special prosecutor."
Fitz is just a regular prosecutor. :)
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:19 PM
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27. I volunteer!!!! Pick me, pick me, pick me!!!!!!! n/t
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 12:35 PM
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5. So what is OldLeftie saying today?
We Demand Insight Now.

Insight now.
Insight now.
Insight now.

What do have to say, OLL?

All ears.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 12:51 PM
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18. Here's how to find out:
go to the top of the page. Look under "Search". When you get to the search function, type in "Old Leftie Lawyer" in the search function.

You'll get all the Hot Tips from our Resident Expert. Looks like our Colleague has been busy. I'm going to start reading!

Thanks for the tip, Walt.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 12:40 PM
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7. She's level headed
And reality based.

I'm a dreamer who needs to hear the voice of reality every once in a while to reign me in. Thanks Lefty. :)
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 12:47 PM
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13. Sorry, there is no way the media shills with Washington insider poop
are going to ratchet this up for nada.

JMHO, but .... I don't think Matthews would be talking "indictment" if it were not in the wind.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 12:52 PM
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20. Think of it this way...
Edited on Tue Oct-25-05 01:34 PM by Walt Starr
If Rove thinks all they have on him is perjury and obstruction, immediately he starts raising expectations. Hell, he even pushes the expectations openly up to the Veep as a potential target, while insidiously inserting the meme that "perjury and obstruction is just a technicality".

It's a possibility, but the one thing I will guarantee you is this. None of what we have been reading in the papers and the web sites has been leaked by Fitzgerald's office. It has all come from the defendents.

And Rove is a master at lowering the bar. This time, he may be doing it in reverse.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:14 PM
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23. That's possible I spose but Bush seems so twitchy/bitchy it leads
me to believe they are sincerely worried.
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Tennessee Gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 12:48 PM
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16. any links to those posts?
please........
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:15 PM
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24. Try reading her posts in this thread
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Tennessee Gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:18 PM
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26. Thanks..
Will do!
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 05:06 PM
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37. thanks for that link
She has rained on my parade before - but always in a good way.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:15 PM
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25. Correct
Any claims to the contrary are bullshit.

Good post, Walt Starr.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:25 PM
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29. Psst. Come here. I want to show you something
There is a rule about calling out fellow Duers for a reason Walt. I like OldLeftieLawyer a lot but no one is right all the time. And that goes for me too. Might be best to ask the moderators nicely to delete this thread?

Don

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1592362

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1592362&mesg_id=1592435

OldLeftieLawyer (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-29-05 04:23 PM
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11. Pray for Matt Cooper,

pray for Judith Miller.

Pray for you.

Pray for me.

Because now they're going after our free press, and if that's not the beginning of the end, I don't know what is.

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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 07:06 PM
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42. Thanks for posting this.
Edited on Tue Oct-25-05 07:08 PM by Karmadillo
nt
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 02:12 PM
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31. I haven't seen old leftie for a couple of days
The last post I read from her she was disgusted at all the speculation going on, but I gotta agree she knows her stuff.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 02:33 PM
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32. I saw her in a thread today
Link is in a post of mine above.
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 02:39 PM
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33. Okay
I was kind of worried she took a time out. I wish she'd bring her beer drinking kitty back.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 02:40 PM
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34. Its so easy to be right
If you don't say anything. It's like a broken clock versus one that is two seconds off. Which one is ever right?

Appreciate the fact that OldLefty has been saying we don't know, but the odds say we do know a lot since this issue has been pasted on DU for years now. To say we know nothing is just plain wrong.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 02:47 PM
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35. Things are not as they seem?
Edited on Tue Oct-25-05 02:48 PM by Generator
Post 69 on that thread you linked says "she's not sure any wrongdoing took place." So it sounds to me that your OldLeftieLawyer is batting for the other team. And WHY you picked the most pessimistic person on the Fitzgerald matters is a mystery to me.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 04:42 PM
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36. OldLeftie Lawyer has been saying all along that we know nothing
and she is right.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 05:10 PM
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38. DUers didn't know about the incestuous relationship between the...
...White House and Judith Miller / NYT over 2 years ago? We may have not have had the mountain of evidence and admissions from the participants we do now but we knew about it and were discussing it a long time ago. I think you are the one who is wrong.


Did some DUers ridicule the NYT / Miller / White House connection back the? They sure did. They were wrong too. Weren't they?


Don
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 05:10 PM
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39. Yup and other than a sense of glee it won't change a thing
because the power is not with shrub it is with the money and the influence of the right wing and the neocons and they will not go silently. They will simply blame shrub as they do now, and get some other spokes cow boy.

We will not suceed by waiting for their failure, it may be sweet but the battle will not be over.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 06:36 PM
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40. sorry - my point was that we have to wait and see
and this speculation and anxiety is tearing us apart. Sometimes we need to listen to the calm, rational voice that doesn't necessarily say what we want to hear.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 07:48 PM
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43. Yup. this will all reveal itself and life will go
on and we will still have battles to fight.

I agree with the sit back and wait attitude. Just a few days left.

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