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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:26 AM
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Who else has noticed no attacks on Fitzgerald?
I've been watching this whole Plame thing like everyone here and the thing that strikes me is that the right wing mouthpieces are not saying word one against Fitgerald. This is so counterintuitive to their constant MO I find it...well...rather striking. Who else finds it very strange and out of character? I think it reveals their fears. Deep, dark, wholly justifiable fears.

Julie
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teach1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:27 AM
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1. Noticed...
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:30 AM
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7. Oh my!
That's the first I've seen. Is it just the beginning? I don't thinkit would be very effective this time. Too late in the game.

Julie
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:28 AM
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2. From what I understand, the guy is untouchable
he actually has integrity, and deserves respect!

(imagine that, in washington, even! :P )
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400Years Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:55 AM
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27. that's never stopped them before
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:28 AM
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3. It's like you read my mind. n/t
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Epiphany4z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:30 AM
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8. How long before they
try it? It is a formula with the repubs. I think they didn't think it would get this far. I always thought they would get to sure of themselves and screw up.
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DemsUnited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:29 AM
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4. Oh, they are. They started the "overzealous prosecutor" bit a while
ago but the MSM didn't bite & echo that talking point like they usually do. The press seems to prefer the "Elliott Ness with a sense of humor" label which, so far, seems pretty much on the mark.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:29 AM
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5. They are playing it safe
until they know what's coming. Afterall, they don't want to deride him since he has the power to bring them down.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:29 AM
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6. It will start when they find out for sure some one is charged
and the nature of the charges. Right now they have little to work with. Fitzgerald has given them no material and is above reproach himself. And, they don't know how many people will be charged. You wouldn't want to tempt fate, now would you?
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:30 AM
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9. They've been attacking via surrogates
to see if they can get anything to stick.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:59 AM
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16. We'll See It When The Indictments Come Down
Yep...Kay Blatantly-Partisan ran the trial balloon yesterday...a modified Earle tactic. Trash the charges, not those making the charge...thus whatever Rove, Libby and others are charged with are "technicalities" rather than real crimes.

The sliming of Fitzgerald will be around the edges and be about the charges rather than Fitzgerald. Unlike Starr, this dude is very low profile and won't say more than what's needed for public record. The attacks, instead, will be on the "over-reach" of Fitzgerald investigation...as the wingnuts will cry that this was just supposed to be an investigation about who leaked Plame's name...not the cover-up. "Technicalities" as Kay calls 'em.

The worst thing the wingnuts can do is attempt to trash Fitzgerald and the entire process as this sure won't play well with the prospective jury pool that resides inside the District Of Columbia. This is where Rove et al will regret their "Southern Strategy".

Cheers...
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:30 AM
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10. Attacks
The kind of attacks on Fitz I'm worried about aren't verbal. I've got my fingers crossed....
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:31 AM
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11. Who was it that called Fitz an Elliot Ness type?
The guy is squeaky clean. There's not so much as lint on him. If there was the repukes would be screaming their heads off about it.

They're still trashing Wilson. A RW talking point that said Wilson smoked pot was called 'pathetic' by Gergen.

The repukes are desperate and have nothing. That's why their trying the new tactic of saying Fitz should only indict if it's directly relevant to the outing of Plame. These pesky perjuries and obstruction of justice charges are only a technicality.

It's so nice they set the bar so low for Clinton. It's gonna bit them in the ass!

:popcorn:
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:41 AM
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14. They should be careful what they demand
I don't think they understand the extent of the crimes committed by this administration because they have not followed this story.

I heard David Brooks say yesterday that there's 'no underlying crime'!! I guess he still believes the WMD lies, or that it was just 'faulty intelligence'. No one asked him about the forged Niger documents, and how they came to be used even though they looked like a five-year old's homework.

I wonder will they be genuinely shocked if the charges border on treason? I wonder if they really are that ignorant of what this is all about? If so, they are in for a rude awakening, imo. Otherwise they simply don't care about crime, so long as it is Republican crime.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:32 AM
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12. See my post 10-24 08:55AM
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:38 AM
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13. Direct attacks on Fitz' could provoke him, the pukes aren't stupid
so they've been doing little skirmishes with minor pundits and players who are removed from the WH. It's been going on for months. KBH's dismissive statement on perjury and obstruction of justice is an example from yesterday.
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newscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:45 AM
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15. As long as he's not talking they're not talking
Why draw unneeded attention to it?

If and when he makes his statemtent then they will go after him with both barrels.

Karen Hughes will probably be cancelling her "good will" tour very soon. :evilgrin:
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:05 AM
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17. i heard a few things said about him, not big attacks but along the lines
Edited on Mon Oct-24-05 09:09 AM by chimpsrsmarter
of "Well he needs to indict because this investigation has cost the merikan people millions of dollars"
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Bloodblister Bob Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:08 AM
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18. I'm amazed that Fitzgerald hasn't had a fatal "accident". n/t
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nookiemonster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:13 AM
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19. This guy went after the Gambinos.
I would assume that he has a top notch security detail.

Just sayin'

:)
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DemocracyInaction Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:20 AM
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20. Well, Rove was the mastermind of these kind of smears and,
in fact, it's just that kind of trashing that brought all this down on their greasy heads. I would say that Mr. Rove is shittin' bricks right about now and is beyond scared of doing anything that might make Fitz madder. I think at first the arrogant little bastard thought he and the other boys could squirm and weazle their way out of all this and throw their power around. I imagine by the time Rove was called back for a third and fourth time, he realized this is a guy who trumps him and he better do nothing to make the man go even longer and deeper in the probe. Bottom line: It takes Rove to pull off the Rovarian tricks and Rove is way to scared now to even try.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:24 AM
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21. They'll attack & fail & look foolish. Fitzgerald's no ordinary prosecutor.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:28 AM
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22. Here's a vicious attack today that looks preposterous:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5148843

BL611 writes:
Fitzgerald or Bush
A quote about Fitzgerald from one of Bush's "white house allies" in todays NY Daily News "He's a vile, detestable, moralistic person with no heart and no conscience who believes he's been tapped by god to do very important things". Not to put anyone on the uhhh... couch, but could this person be maybe projecting pent up animosity toward someone a little closer to him???


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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:00 AM
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23. "Fitzgerald or Bush"
If you leave out everything but the third descriptive and the end of the sentence, this is how Repugs describe shrub. If you leave it as is, it perfectly describes him.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:05 AM
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24. They Appointed Him! What Can They Say?
He's the only person who's ever brought an indictment against Bin Laden. He's jailed biz people on white collar stuff, dem and repub politicos alike, and the Ashcroft led Justice Department appointed him.

They don't have the basis to accuse him, like Earle, or others, of being a partisan on a witch hunt. Since everything is politics, and absent a political angle, they've got nothing.
The Professor
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 12:02 PM
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28. I do believe that's part of it
signed on by * himself. heh
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:06 AM
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25. he has called them on their practice of obstruction of justice
the heart of the Plame outing is character assassination and obstruction of justice

It is an unprecedented and shocking change in their MO. Even their departing party faithful are routinely threatened with Rovian ratfucking and royally trashed if they dare say the slightest critical thing aobut the cabal.

Just like a mafia.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:44 AM
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26. They have to some extent. Saying he doesn't understand politics.
They have made statements saying that Fitz doesn't understand politics. Their whole plan is to minimize the charges as no big deal and say Fritz is criminalizing politics. That he is basically a good guy but a little anal retentive on the laws.
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