Powell said "Plame" was NEVER on Air Force 1 memo???WHAAAAAAAAAAAT

[ChowChowChow]

That is a big blow to the case as we know it...Of course that IDIOT King didn't persue it...it must have been planned in advance that he would drop this bomb and then not have a follow up...how could ANY commentator who knows ANYTHING about this case think that this was not a BIG statement by Powell...Geeezzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[Cocoa]

1. I have no clue what this is about

and I'm trying...

[Sanity Claws]

2. maybe the memo referred to her as "Mrs Wilson"

This statement may also mean that whoever is involved did more digging to find her identity. It would further indicate that it would have to be someone very high up, like Cheney.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

Colon Bowel is talking out his @ss.

How disingenuous can you get? True, the memo doesn't mention Valerie Plame. It refers to her by her married name, Valerie Wilson.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/20/AR2005072002517.html

[lovuian]

24. This Valerie Flame Valerie Wilson Valerie Plame Wilson's wife

just is so flimsy and yet its all they have to hold onto while the ship is sinking!!! The line is there but so flimsy!!! Powell is so pathetic!!!

[Scout1071]

3. Care to elaborate? n/t

[reality based]

4. Did he say that there was no reference to Wilson's wife?

This "name" thing is being used quite a lot by these criminals to distort and obfuscate.

[GreenPartyVoter]

10. Exactly. I think they're playing semantics here because no way Fitz would

go to the lengths he had if his evidence was not airtight.

[mzmolly]

5. It's what he says under oath that matters.

I do hope he'll be placed under oath soon.

[...of J.Temperance]

6. Because Larry King for YEARS has been on the GOP payroll

He ABSOLUTELY ADORES the Bush hog family. So you know, it shouldn't be that surprising that King just let it slide...now, if it would have been about Bill, Hilary or ANY Democrat, well...he'd have been peppering innuendo back and forth like Lucianne Goldberg at a Freeper Convention.

[FreedomAngel82]

7. As I've quickly learned

whatever they say turn it backwards for the truth.

[wishlist]

8. Washington Post said "Valerie Wilson" was name in memo, not Plame

I had my TV on, but the interchange was so fast I didnt' catch it.

Here is link to article by WP that describes how she was mentioned in the Air Force One memo:


"Plame's Identity Marked As Secret
Memo Central to Probe Of Leak Was Written By State Dept. Analyst

By Walter Pincus and Jim VandeHei
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, July 21, 2005; Page A01

A classified State Department memorandum central to a federal leak investigation contained information about CIA officer Valerie Plame in a paragraph marked "(S)" for secret, a clear indication that any Bush administration official who read it should have been aware the information was classified, according to current and former government officials.

Plame -- who is referred to by her married name, Valerie Wilson, in the memo -- is mentioned in the second paragraph of the three-page document, which was written on June 10, 2003, by an analyst in the State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research (INR), according to a source who described the memo to The Washington Post."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/20/AR2005072002517.html

[Seansky]

11. yeahp, i remember that. Wonder what's up with Powell...

[understandinglife]

18. Exactly. I just posted this in another thread.

Lying traitor:

"Plame -- who is referred to by her married name, ValerieWilson, in the memo -- is mentioned in the second paragraph of the three-page document, which was written on June 10, 2003, by an analyst in the State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research (INR), according to a source who described the memo to The Washington Post.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/20/AR2005072002517.html

If he thinks this kind of crap is going to help him, he needs medical care, not just a lawyer or two.


Peace.

[walldude]

9. What? He's splitting fucking hairs now?

He needs to just crawl into his lecture circut hole and not come back. He could have made history, he could have been the lone hero standing up to the fascist white regime running this country, but instead he towed the party line, lied when they told him to lie and now even after he quit he's so brainwashed he can't help but keep on spinning. Asshole. He could have been the first black president. Now he's just another desperate neo-con going down the shitter.

[crispini]

25. I used to like Powell.

Shame. I feel bad for him.

What happened? I see it as about the time he wrote his book and people were asking him to run for President. If he had seized the moment at that time then things would have been very different. But he did not, and he had to find something else to do, and he wound up in bed with the neocons.

[Athame]

28. Doesn't matter. What is, is. n/t

[ChowChowChow]

12. Sorry Y'all are right..I am just SO tense

I was so upset when he said that...of course he was spinning..he could have said that she was refered to as Wilson...WHAT A FRIIGIN DOOSHBAG Powell is!!!
Sorry everyone......he was spinning..what else is new.

[carolinalady]

13. So ok--if the memo said Wilson and she was identified to

reporters as Plame--who knew her before she married and would most likely refer to her maiden name? I know I do that with my old friends and acquaintances. That might give the clue as to who the original "information disseminator aka leaker" was.

[reality based]

15. Don't forget Powell still is probably on someone's payroll

or they have something good on him. Poppy may be disappointed in Barbara's son but he still is loyal to him.

[Just Me]

14. What does that mean: only the Brewster Jennings operation was on there,...

,...in addition to the reports associated with the Niger fraud? :shrug:

:rofl:

My stomach hurts!!! Ouch!!!

:rofl:

[tinfoilinfor2005]

16. He said, "And by the way, the name Plame was never in the memo."

Just like that. He didn't say "Valerie Plame", which would have contained the name "Valerie", which WAS in the memo, along with her married name, "Wilson". Have to wonder, what kind of game is he playing?? Or maybe he is trying to say that anyone on Air Force 1 who saw the memo wouldn't have translated the name "Wilson" to the name "Plame" once they leaked it to the press.

[carolinalady]

17. Maybe he is the secret source and Fitz has guaranteed him

anonymity so he is trying to throw off the trail.

[tinfoilinfor2005]

20. I don't know. The whole interview was strange.

It was just a bunch of chit chat at first, and then boom, out of the blue, Larry asks him about the leak. Kind of like, "How are the wife and kids? Do you go out much for dinner? And by the way, what do you think of this rove, whitehouse leak stuff?" And Colin answers, "We talked to the investigator, blah, blah, blah, and by the way, the name Plame wasn't in the airforce 1 memo." And Larry says, "Oh. So what are you doing now? Writing a book? blah blah blah."

It just seemed very strange, but it did sound like it was planned.

Powell then went on to say some things about the administration that were kind of sort of...disagreeable, I guess I would put it. Like he was slapping bush but with a feather duster.

I don't know. I don't see him being our knight in shining armor.

[lovuian]

26. Well but he does have his fingers all over it!!!

over the file and on Airforce one did the Wilson thing come up???

I think colin is trying to cover for Bush right now!!!

What a waste of a human being!!!

[carolinalady]

27. I think Colin is covering for himself. I don't think he likes Bush

but he does not want to come off as a rat to the Republican base.

[mmonk]

19. Well that makes it ok, right?

:eyes:

[LSK]

21. was Wilsons wife on AF1?

They are 2 different people you know! :sarcasm:

[Garbo 2004]

22. Hardly a bombshell, she was going by her married name "Wilson."

Which appeared in notes attached to the memo, as I recall it was previously reported. Just a dissemble by Powell.

But do feel free to tell us more, Colin. Were you the "former Administration official" who leaked about the smearing of Wilson by other members of the Administration? (Especially when they tried to saddle you as the sole posessor of the memo on AF1, a "former senior Administration official" told the press that others on board AF1 had seen the memo as well.)

And what was John Bolton up to when he was one of your employees, Colin? David Wurmser?

[Roland99]

23. Fvck Powell. He's loyal to these monstrous bastards even still!

What a creep!

[npincus]

29. the memo DID refer to her covert status, maybe as "Valerie Wilson"

[H2O Man]

30. Your source?

Do you have a source for this?

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

31. He was on Larry King last night and this is from the transcript.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0510/17/lkl.01.html

KING: I mean, were they on tops of things?

POWELL: They were following what was going on. And I think we have been forthcoming in what was known within the department about it, the famous State Department memo that I was given by one of my staffers, which, by the way, never had the name Plame anywhere in the memo.

This is of course an evasion. I believe from what I've heard, she was named as Valerie Wilson. It was a snap to find Valerie Wilson being Valerie Plame on the Net. In Wilson's online bio that was available back then as it is now, it says that he is married to the former Valerie Plame.

[H2O Man]

32. Okay, thanks.

You are, of course, correct. Colin is being coy. This is nothing. It isn't "bad news" at all. Quite the opposite: Colin is distancing himself from the conspiracy, which is only fair, because he was not part of it. More importantly, Fitzgerald has narrowed the focus from the broader discussions about "Wilson's wife" that happened after Rove spread the message he got from Libby (and one might suspect the VP!). Just as there was some misinformation in Miller's reported testimony. A good investigator isn't thrown off by this type of thing. It actually helps him/her to find the original source. So your idea is exactly on target, and people should read it and be satisfied.

People need to relax and enjoy this time in our national experience. Everything is fine. Everything is exactly as it should be. Don't be nervous or anxious about what will happen tomorrow. Enjoy today.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

33. It was my pleasure supplying the transcript! As to Powell not being

involved, from what I heard, the report was compiled at his request and was generated from the State Department. So as to his "innocence", I am none to sure, though I do believe as you say, that he is trying to distance himself from it.

I love your statement at the end of your post, "People need to relax and enjoy this time in our national experience. Everything is fine. Everything is exactly as it should be. Don't be nervous or anxious about what will happen tomorrow. Enjoy today."

Everything does happen with perfect timing and I am savoring every moment of this. For the first time in years I feel that the Truth will finally see the light of day, and I have more than a glimmer of hope that Justice will indeed be served.

[H2O Man]

35. Colin Powell

is a total shit. I think he is a very controlled but extremely disturbed human being. I think he has been a rotten apple for 40 years.

Clearly, he was a player in the lying to the country and the world about the reasons we went to war. He knew better. But I am confident that we will find he played no significant role in the Plame scandal.

[NNadir]

34. Who cares was Powell says. He is a L-I-A-R, internationally known.