I Had No Idea Roadside Bombs Were This Bad!

[spooked]

http://homepage.mac.com/duffyb/nobush/iMovieTheater269.html

Just a little ways into this video "Mistaken", we see 9 Roadside Bombs targeting American soldiers in Iraq. I had no idea the insurgents "homemade" roadside bombs were so huge and deadly!

[USA_1]

1. Here's the real truth about those bombs

http://benfrank.net/blog/2005/09/29/car_bombers_caught_red_handed/


September 29, 2005
Undercover British soldiers caught red-handed: Dressed as Arabs in a car full of explosives with a remote detonator.

This story should be THE top story for weeks as nothing is more important. Billions of dollars and thousands of lives continue to be wasted every month in Iraq under the guise that we’re making progress and that eventually we’re going to get all the terrorists… yet when British soldiers are caught dressed as Arabs, with a car full of explosive and a remote detonator… the story is dropped like the plague. Once again, the way the $$ media buries the story is indicative of the potential consequences… ie- this news would end the war, if only Americans knew.

John Pilger has the full story, Sinister Events in a Cynical War

Although reported initially by the Times and the Mail, all mention of the explosives allegedly found in the SAS men’s unmarked Cressida vanished from the news. Instead, the story was the danger the men faced if they were handed over to the militia run by the “radical” cleric Moqtada al-Sadr. “Radical” is a gratuitous embedded term; al-Sadr has actually cooperated with the British. What did he have to say about the “rescue”? Quite a lot, none of which was reported in this country. His spokesman, Sheik Hassan al-Zarqani, said the SAS men, disguised as al-Sadr’s followers, were planning an attack on Basra ahead of an important religious festival. “When the police tried to stop them,” he said, “ opened fire on the police and passersby. After a car chase, they were arrested. What our police found in the car was very disturbing – weapons, explosives, and a remote-control detonator. These are the weapons of terrorists.”

The episode illuminates the most enduring lie of the Anglo-American adventure. This says the “coalition” is not to blame for the bloodbath in Iraq – which it is, overwhelmingly – and that foreign terrorists orchestrated by al-Qaeda are the real culprits…

A member of the Iraqi National Assembly, Fatah al-Sheik, said this week, “There is a huge campaign for the agents of the foreign occupiers to enter and plant hatred between the sons of the Iraqi people and spread rumors in order to scare the one from the other. … The occupiers are trying to start religious incitement, and if it does not happen, then they will start an internal Shi’ite incitement.”

The Anglo-American goal of “federalism” for Iraq is part of an imperial strategy of provoking divisions in a country where traditionally the communities have overlapped, even intermarried. The Osama-like promotion of al-Zarqawi is integral to this. Like the Scarlet Pimpernel, he is everywhere but nowhere. When the Americans crushed the city of Fallujah last year, the justification for their atrocious behavior was “getting those guys loyal to al-Zarqawi.” But the city’s civil and religious authorities denied he was ever there or had anything to do with the resistance.

“He is simply an invention,” said the Imam of Baghdad’s al-Kazimeya mosque. “Al-Zarqawi was killed in the beginning of the war in the Kurdish north. His family even held a ceremony after his death.” Whether or not this is true, al-Zarqawi’s “foreign invasion” serves as Bush’s and Blair’s last veil for their “war on terror” and botched attempt to control the world’s second biggest source of oil.

To sum up:

* Undercover soldiers caught red-handed attempting to bomb civilians and place the blame on ‘crazy Iraqi suicide bombers’. (I hear this a lot ~ “those people are nuts, they blow up their own citizens- so it’s ok for us to bomb the shit out of them”)
* Iraqis believe the occupation forces are behind the car bombs, an attempt to incite the civil war the US media tells us is imminent.
* Iraqis believe there is no Zarqawi, he is like Orwell’s Goldstein in 1984, the mythical terrorist that can never be caught, because that would end the excuse for US military presence.

[FloridaPat]

3. They caught 2 US soldiers in Baghdad this week with a car bomb.

Exactly who are we fighting over there?

[spooked]

4. Here's a link...I hadn't heard about that!

http://www.freemarketnews.com/Feedback.asp?nid=349

Friday, October 14, 2005 - FreeMarketNews.com

by staff reports
It's happened again - allied troops being caught with bombs. This time it is the Americans captured in the act of setting off a car bomb in Baghdad. Last time, as FMNN reported only weeks ago, two British soldiers, apparently working for British intelligence, were caught near Baghdad similarly equipped.

According to the Mirror-World, "A number of Iraqis apprehended two Americans disguised in Arab dress as they tried to blow up a booby-trapped car in the middle of a residential area in western Baghdad on Tuesday. … Residents of western Baghdad's al-Ghazaliyah district the people had apprehended the Americans as they left their Caprice car near a residential neighborhood in al-Ghazaliyah on Tuesday afternoon. Local people found they looked suspicious so they detained the men before they could get away. That was when they discovered that they were Americans and called the … police." Just as in the British incident, the Iraq police arrived at approximately the same time as allied military forces - and the two men were removed from Iraq custody and wisked away before any questioning could take place.

The incidents are said to be fueling both puzzlement and animosity among Iraqis. Yet the motivation behind such activities remains formally unknown since in both cases the soldiers involved have been removed with an efficiency that has quashed any attempts at an interrogation.

[stop the bleeding]

6. I have not heard anything else in regards to this article since it came

out, any new developments?

[FreedomAngel82]

17. It does make one wonder

:\ And makes it more disgusting why they don't have better armor. :(

[madrchsod]

8. seems the Iranians are also after the brits for the

bombings in Iran--the brits camp is right across the border.according to scott ritter we have been waging war at Iran for many months now.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/D95D9853-C63D-4E26-9BB0-ED321FA78037.htm
Aljazeera.Net - Several killed in Iran explosion

[FreedomAngel82]

18. Yep

This is probably how they're trying to get Iran to attack back. Remember that in 2003 before we "officially" went into Iraq our military air force and the British air force were bombing Iraq and trying to get them to attack us back while the UN inspection was going on. It was all a ploy to get them into war when there was nothing going on. So than we would be bombing them and if they did attack back Bush could use this to go into war and take us into war. Same thing is going on now with Iran. Hopefully they are smart enough to not do anything. If you haven't go here: http://www.truthout.org/cindy.shtml
and watch the video of Tim Goodrich and Hart Viges. They talk about this and how Bush lied to the public.

[FloridaPat]

26. I think it was Scott Ritter who last year said the Israelis were helping

the Kurds to do operations in Iran.

[Selatius]

12. Many of those roadside bombs are old munitions scavenged from stockpiles

Iraq's arsenal included things such as large caliber artillery and mortar shells, not to mention RPGs and other assorted weapons, and many of those disappeared after the country was invaded. They're probably smuggling in new arms from the black market as well.

[Kurovski]

23. Wasn't there a soldier who reported on how troops were not

securing munitions storage facilities when the invasion went to the ground? By orders, they were ignoring them. I seem to recall that was a big story for a while. The Iraqis armed themselves heavily during that period.

[babylonsister]

2. That is powerful and damning. Just...wow! Nom! nt

[cliss]

5. That is an unbelievable film clip.

I agree with you. I had no idea the bombs were that big. NO WONDER so many Americans have been killed, and no wonder a Bradley fighting vehicle is no match for such firepower.

GET OUT OF IRAQ NOW.

[spooked]

9. Our soldiers are forced to hunt for scrap metal in Iraqi landfills

ALL IN VAIN!!

Those poor soldiers having to add scrap metal to their vehicles, and all in vain when you see the video of those roadside bombs!



Remember this exchange between Rumsfeld and a soldier?

"On December 8, 2004, during a meeting of soldiers in Iraq with U.S. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, Specialist Thomas Wilson alerted the American public to the issue of armor shortages when he asked:

"Why do we soldiers have to dig through local landfills for pieces of scrap metal and compromised ballistic glass to up-armor our vehicles and why don't we have those resources readily available to us?"

After applause from the troops, Rumsfeld replied:

"It's essentially a matter of physics. It isn't a matter of money. It isn't a matter on the part of the Army of desire. It's a matter of production and capability of doing it...You can have all the armor in the world on a tank and a tank can be blown up. And you can have an up-armored humvee and it can be blown up."


TOTAL INSANITY

[FreedomAngel82]

19. All of this

just really makes me sick in my stomach. :( :cry: These people are disgusting and horrible. What really makes me disgusted is they've been planning this for years. They go around and claim to "support the troops" and get people who are trying to tell the truth etc. and demonize you and make people hate you and want to kill you etc. and than when it comes to really supporting the troops they don't treat them well with food, water, utilites, armor, etc. They've been planning this so long they could've planned ways for this. This whole thing was rushed. Joe Biden once on the "Daily Show" last year during the week of the democratic convention made the point they did it so fast because if they didn't they would've lost support because people would've changed their minds from learning the truth. I'm just so disgusted from these people.

[walldude]

7. Nominated...

Insanity this is...

[RagingInMiami]

10. That was a very intense video

One of the better ones I've seen on the crap that has gone on in the last five years.

[Fla Dem]

28. Yes avery powerful message, I would have liked to send to some

people I know that think Bushit walks on water. But the production quality was really poor. Blurry video, distorted sound, music too loud, so you couldn't hear what was being said. Was it just my connection, or did others experience the same?

[RagingInMiami]

29. It was very blurry on my screen

And that was considering it was running about a quarter-size of the screen. I wonder why it was so blurry if they were using actual TV footage.

[TomClash]

11. You only need about a pound of C-4

to blow up a vehicle. If you have C-4 the rest is easy.

[spooked]

13. Just some of the roadside casulaties over the PAST FEW WEEKS

Army Staff Sgt. Daniel Scheile, 37, of Antioch, Calif., died Sept. 24 from injuries he sustained from a roadside bomb in Baghdad.

Staff Sgt. Matthew A. Kimmell, 30, was killed Tuesday north of Baghdad. Kimmell, an engineer sergeant with 3rd Battalion and Indiana native, died after a roadside bomb hit his Humvee.

Army Sgt. Alfredo Silva, 35, of Calexico, Calif., was killed Sept. 15 by a roadside bomb in Baghdad.

Marine Pfc. Ramon Romero, 19, of Huntington Park, Calif., was killed Aug. 22 by a roadside bomb near Fallujah.

Army Sgt. Andrew Wallace, 25, of Oshkosh, Wis., was killed Sept. 26 by a roadside bomb in Shaibah.

Army Spc. Michael Wendling, 20, Mayville, Wis., was killed Sept. 26 by a roadside bomb in Shaibah.

Army Sgt. Franklin Vilorio, 26, of Miami, was killed Sept. 6 in Baghdad when his vehicle hit a bomb.

Sergeant Wesley Tucker was due home in less than two weeks. His mom was counting down the days until he returned home. With 13 days left, she got the news. She explains how he hit a really big roadside bomb. “It hit the Humvee and it throwed Wess out. He was the only one killed,” his mother sighed.

[gulfcoastliberal]

14. Imagine a direct hit by an artillery shell exploding under/next to you

Whether your ride is armored or not, it's toast. A 152mm artillery shell exploding directly underneath or beside you will destroy whatever vehicle you are in, armored or not. Think about it. That's what many of the "IEDS" are - big artillery shells.

[Name removed]

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[spooked]

16. Killing is never the answer

I've been against this insane war from Day One.

I'm sorry if you misinterpreted my post. My heart aches for all Americans and Iraqis caught in the crossfire of Bush's Agenda.

[FreedomAngel82]

20. What's all in there?

I've seen some gory stuff but my stomach can't handle some things. How is this video?

[spooked]

22. It's actually scarier than any gory scene could be

The lies that they told us, and continue to tell us...

But the series of roadside bombs are near the beginning of the video, and they do not show anything close-up.

The end does have disturbing images of the burned US soldiers and of the Abu Ghraib prison abuse.

[TacticalPeek]

21. My son returned from his tour in one piece, despite President AWOL.

He will have to do at least one more tour of the greatest strategic blunder this country ever made.

Under-manned, under-equipped, benefits cut to pay off the stinking rich. Sent into war by madmen who rake in the dollars and hoard the power.

You'd better face the reality of the IEDs and the insurgency, just like the grunts have to do.





http://goarmy.com/contact/find_a_recruiter.jsp?hmref=cs

[DS1]

24. All I see is black

quicktime blows

[i_c_a_White_Ghost]

25. wish they'd lose the music

[spooked]

27. I think it's kind of haunting

and fits the piece well...

I think students of history will be studying Bush's provocation of Fear for as long as people have been studying Hitler's techniques now.

[bluedawg12]

30. And Rummy sent them with out up- armored hummvee's

and with out kevlar vests.


Is that supporting the troops?