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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 02:10 PM
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Should Churches teach the Kama Sutra?
Edited on Sat Oct-15-05 02:16 PM by Tom Yossarian Joad
I mean, why not? They are so concerned that our children get a balanced education.

I think we need to get this into the public schools at least. I wish my partners had been schooled in this during my years of experimentation.

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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 02:14 PM
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1. ummmm .....
It's the Kama Sutra fyi ...

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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 02:17 PM
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3. Oh.... Uhhh... That's what I said....
(after the edit). thanks. LOL

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murray hill farm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 02:16 PM
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2. Ha!
Well..ya know i am not even really sure what it is that they want the schools to teach...exactly. Anyone know just exactly it is that they want? Are Adam and Eve in the teaching picture? Is that an almighty god created the earth? Or is it only that all of this and all of us could or might not be just a matter of evolution? Can anyone clear this up for me?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 02:37 PM
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6. They should combine those school church lessons with Be Kind To Animals
Week....it would end up looking like this:

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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 03:00 PM
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9. There's not a unified 'they'. That's part of the problem--
it's easy to refer to 'them' to include all of them. But it becomes meaningless in most contexts.

Some really want Xianity taught as a religion, convert and inculcate good morals in the masses. Which Xianity ... that's a question. Extreme fundamentalism with young earth creationism? Judaizing legalism? Dogmatic Baptism? Squishy "the golden rule says to be nice"?

Some want Intelligent Design ... which, to my thinking, is teaching evolution, and then spending an hour saying one or two additional things. One, "weak ID": "But evolution wasn't random, it just looks that way before God directions the mutations and adaptations." Eh. Two, "strong ID": "But evolution, random chance, can't really be the answer because things like X require multiple, complex interactions among mutations and adaptations, therefore it shows some deity exists and intervenes."

Others want Xianity allowed in. My wife's in the 'cultural Xianity' camp--she's atheist, but loves Xmas and Thanksgiving. This isn't Xianity taught, but coexisting. Let students do public prayers, have Xmas parties, etc.

Others want the Xian heritage--the positive side--emphasized. Some of these are very pro-Western Civ, assimiliationist, and not very multiculturalist in orientation. Some aren't. Some are happy just having the Bible taught from a fairly secular, but not adversely critical POV. To some extent this becomes "Bible and Xian sects' influences on western culture". If I'm in a camp, it's this one; it's frustrating for college grads to think they understand documents from a century or two ago when they really don't understand the Bible allusions and how they influence the meaning.

The Kama Sutra's had no more effect on the Western civ we study and learn than the Bhagavad Gita. Mention both, do a few pointless excerpts from one; but even in a college Indian history class neither was more than a blip.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 02:20 PM
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4. actually, I think they should teach evolution
if public schools have to teach the bible. Afterall, they receive taxpayer funds now.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 02:21 PM
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5. Imagine The Ignorance Churches Will Suffer...
if they don't. Oh my!
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 02:41 PM
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7. Hehe... I can see it now... "Okay, everyone on the right side of the
church, put your left hand down, hold your right hand high up in the air... That;s right. On your knees, dear..."

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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 02:44 PM
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8. lol (nt)
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 03:02 PM
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10. 'Spect some do, Tom!
Though not in the classroom.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 03:16 PM
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11. Nail/hammer... WHACK!
Thanks for best 'sad but true laugh of the day!
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 07:24 PM
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19. I'm afraid too many do already...
IMHO, we're talking land of hypocrites already.


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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 03:20 PM
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12. if they get to teach theirs.. then theye have to teach mine, and everybody
elses.. no favoritism
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Syncronaut Seven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 03:36 PM
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13. ABSOLUTELY NOT !!!!!!!
You see, I've read the Kama Sutra (the book, as well as the illustrated manual)

What I learned makes me a very popular guy. :evilgrin: You think I want that stuff to be COMMON knowledge?

Not in a million years, bub. :patriot:
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 03:37 PM
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14. I think they should teach both and let the people decide.
:)
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 03:51 PM
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15. No....but
it would make some REALLY COOL stickers for the text books!
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 04:09 PM
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16. Actually, the Kama Sutra was a Spiritual and Educational book.
Edited on Sat Oct-15-05 04:12 PM by johnaries
"Praised be the three aims of life, virtue (dharma), prosperity (artha), and love (kama), which are the subject of this work.
(The Complete Kamasutra, 1994)...

...So with religion, morality (dharma) and material success (artha), kama is the third goal of human life. Kama is further defined as;
Kama is the enjoyment of appropriate objects by the five senses of hearing, feeling, seeing, tasting and smelling, assisted by the mind together with the soul. The ingredient in this is a peculiar contact between the organ of sense and its object, and the consciousness of pleasure which arises from that contact is called Kama. (Kamasutra, 1883)...

...The Kama Sutra is not a pornographic work. First and foremost, it is a picture of the art of living for the civilised and refined citizen, completing in the sphere of love, eroticism and the pleasures of life. (The Complete Kamasutra, Alain Danielou 1994)"

http://www.spaceandmotion.com/kamasutra.htm

On a side note, Tantric Sex was originally used as a meditational technique to help achieve enlightenment.

It's only in the highly repressive Western philosophies that sex is seen as "dirty".

If I ever start my own church, we will teach both the Kama Sutra AND Tantric Yoga!

edit to add: anyone want to convert? :hi:
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 05:13 PM
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17. LOL!!! Thank you for the great reminder!
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 05:36 PM
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18. So, ya wanna join my church?
How many DUer's do you think we can get to convert?
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 07:26 PM
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20. Somewhere between 90 and 95%?
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 07:39 PM
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21. Me! me!
Count me and hubby in!! We are there!!
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