What would you do if Clark won the Democratic nomination?

[CoffeePlease1947]

So people seem to believe that Bush is better than Clark on this board. I doubt their loyality when they make that claim. I believe Clark will win the nomination because he is an outsider that is a war hero.

Winning requires votes. I think Clark will bring lots of Independant votes and even more Republican votes than any other candidate. Polls also show Clark winning, and even more important than that, he is beating Bush in southern states that would slaughter Bush in the electoral college.

So how about it. How would you vote if Clark wins the nomination?
Is your statement of having an extreme lifetime loyal Democrat win the nomination more important than your need to slaughter Bush in the General Election?

Mike

[Padraig18]

1. I'd vote for Clark

I am a *Democrat*.

[izzie]

22. Me too, any one but Bush

I think going with what you believe is better than voting for the person. But please no more of this war like people and Bible people. I can not take it.

[JNelson6563]

2. I would vote for him, of course

I am not of the spoiled child my-way-or-no-way mindset. I do not like what Team Bush is doing and voting to get him out is important to me.

I have asked a few folks who support other candidates if they would vote for Dean if he got the nom, I still await my answer.

Julie

[ModerateMiddle]

62. I would vote for Dean

and I am currently supporting Kerry rather strongly. However, I would, as I have in many past elections, be voting AGAINST someone (Bush), not FOR someone (Dean). Lesser of two evils and all that.

[0rganism]

3. Vote for Clark

I think I've had enough bushit for this lifetime.

[VOX]

4. Back him like crazy. ABB.

Hell, I would probably even work for him.

After what just happened in my home state of CA, my loathing of the GOP just racheted up another notch, if that's possible.

[slor]

5. Fuck Bush...

and the oily horse he rode in on. Whoever his opponent is has got my vote in every sense of the word. His ass is going to be outsourced back to crawford where he can cut bushes all damn day!

[tlb]

6. I would congratulate Bush on his re-election

because the day Clark gets the nomination, that's the day Bush has it in the bag. With the slightest encouragrment Clark would have joined the administration and become as big a cheerleader as he is now a critic of its policies. And now the best the party can do for its nominee is a man who has been a democrat for less then a week ?

The puppetmsters of the DNC/DLC have a very poor record the last several years of providing demcrats a reason to vote FOR democratic candidates. Clark is just more of the same.

Btw, picture the commercials running the video every half hour for weeks before the election of Clark panicing under press questioning, shouting " HELP ME MARY ". Chauncey Gardener was more credible.

[Jivenwail]

15. I'd vote for Clark

And I support his run. I'm a Democrat and I will vote for whomever the Dem nominee turns out to be. Period.

BTW, I believe everyone is entitled to an opinion. However, I think that you obviously haven't done a lot of research on Clark or you would understand that he has always been a Democrat. In 2001, he voiced an opinion on who whistle ass had on his "team" because Clark had worked with Rummy, Powell and Cheney under 2 other administraitons while in the military. He said there was "good team" in place, but never praised whistle ass. However, after 9/11, things changed, as did his opinion of the people he once thought were making a good team. He went to West Point because he was moved by JFK's speech "ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country". And while he readily admits to voting for Reagan and Bush Sr, he voted for Gore in 2000. And after the Florida fiasco, he now wonders if any of his absentee votes cast during his military career ever actually counted.

Would you say the same things about someone like Sen. Jeffords, who was duly elected as a Republican, but chose to become an Indepdent because of what his party was doing to this country? Is it not within anyone of us to change our minds or our thoughts on anything or anyone at any time?? And if you would read Clark's stand on the issues or even take an hour or so to listen to him speak, answer questions and react to any and all critics, perhaps you might have a better understanding of this man before judging him.

I believe that not any one candidate is perfect, none of them are. Each one has something that most of us either disagree with or find intolerable to support or we just can't abide them personally. But if we all do our "homework" perhaps then we can stop bickering, labeling and making judgments on any of them. They are all on the record and that is what I believe should matter.

Support whomever you believe in, that is your right.

JMHO, of course.

[lastliberalintexas]

41. I'm sorry but that's crap

As a lifelong Dem, I have VERY legitimate concerns about Clark. While it bothers me a little that he voted for Nixon and Reagan and was not a registered Dem, I am more concerned about his praise of this misadministration. ANY MEMBER OF IT!!!!

Funny that we all knew early on how evil Cheney, Rummy, Wolfowitz, Rice, et al were, but Clark is expected to get a pass for his praise of them? Not from this Dem. He has a long way to prove himself to me and many Dem activists. We'll see how things go over the next few months, but until then, I refuse to give some sort of loyalty oath to a complete unknown.

[CoffeePlease1947]

18. So you vote for Bush?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

19. You Had To Ruin My Morning...

Give the guy a fucking break....


He has had some snafus in the nascent moments of his campaigns....


I'll eat my computer if that amounts to a hill of beans in the final analysis....

[Speed8098]

20. Why don't you do some research before you post tripe

The puppetmsters of the DNC/DLC have a very poor record the last several years of providing demcrats a reason to vote FOR democratic candidates. Clark is just more of the same.

You mean the same DLC/DNC that backed PRESIDENT CLINTON and duly elected REAL PRESIDENT GORE?

I don't much care for the tactics of the DLC, but if you are going to bash a candidate, you need better reasons than what you posted.

What if Clark get's the nod? What will you do? Vote for * ??

[bowens43]

25. I agree with you 100%

but I'd still vote for him. It will be a sad day for Dems if the best we can come up with is Clark. On the bright side, it would make losing to bush hurt a little less.

[Hamlette]

51. "best we can come up with"

that is EXACTLY what we said about Clinton in later 1991 and in the early months of 1992. EXACTLY. We thought we were screwed if he won the nomination.

(This post should be ignored by Clinton haters. I know Clinton was flawed but on balance he did a good job.)

[bowens43]

56. We knew Clinton

was a Democrat. Clinton had a verifiable record. Clinton didn't give speeches at republican fund raisers. Clinton didn't praise those he would oppose in the election. Clinton didn't vote for Reagan.

[CWebster]

30. Amen

An occasional flash of illumination is the reassurance necessary that the often lone and overlooked voice can still perceive reality fearlessly.

[maha]

36. Try to behave.

If you disagree with Clark on policy issues (and, contrary to many brainless twits, he has expressed his opinion on several issues), that's ok with me. You're intitled to your opinion. But just to smear the guy, just to assassinate his character, based on nothing but your own prejudices -- this is what freepers and dittoheads and other elements of the VRWC do. We're supposed to be better than them.

[0rganism]

94. Hows the Show, tlb?

Troll much around here?

One hint: spell it "Democrats", not "demcrats". It'll help your sorry act last a little longer.

[Spentastic]

7. Lucky me

I'm not in a position to vote being a U.K citizen.

If Clark wins the nomination I hope he wins. I don't believe however that winning is everything. Bush talks centrist acts right. Clinton talked moderate / liberal walked centre right. Where will Clark walk?

I've seen Tony Blair sacrifice the Labour party principles on the alatar of electability. I don't suggest the Democratic party go the same way.

[argyl]

8. ABB.Simple as that.

xx

[MaidinVermont]

9. I'd write in Dean

And sleep well.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

10. That's Great....

If you are going to engage in the ultimate act of vanity you should write in yourself....



P. S. That's regardless of who the Democratic nomination is...

[janekat]

61. LOL! too funny!

[MercutioATC]

13. Not me. I'm a Dean supporter 100%, but when it comes down to it,

if, by some fluke, Dean isn't the nominee.......ABB.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

37. Some fluke...?

[RevolutionStartsNow]

60. Hey Mercutio

This is going to be a fluke-free election year!

[ClintonTyree]

11. Vote for him...................

he's certainly not my first choice, but if that is the will of Democrats around the country, I will support him. Support meaning that I will actively promote him, not just vote for him. Bush has to go.

[madmax]

12. Clark!!!

Clark can beat bush and nothing else matters to me. I can't stand the thought of 4 more years of bush.

[stickdog]

14. Shake me head sadly.

Why don't we just nominate Gray Davis?

[CoffeePlease1947]

16. Who would you vote for? That is the question. n/t

[stickdog]

49. Come on. (NT)

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. Hey-Despite His Flaws

I know you don't want to denigrade Gray's "progressive" achievements...

[Touchdown]

21. Vote for him

Learn more about his history, and defend him against repug attacks. What else would you expect us to do?:shrug:

[bowens43]

23. I'd probably hold my nose and vote for him.

BTW , we don't need repug votes to win the election. Do we really want a candidate that would cause repugs to jump over to the Dems? I don't see an ability to bring on repugs as being a positive, I see it as a negative. If he's good enough for repugs, he isn't someone I want to have as president.

Of course , I don't think Clark will get the nomination.

[in_cog_ni_to]

24. I would vote for him n/t

[LionInWinter]

26. ABB baby ...

ABB

[Palacsinta]

27. Vote for him

And in the meantime, I'm giving him money and going to a meet-up this Monday.

[NicRic]

28. Anyone ,except bush !

.

[Rowdyboy]

29. My preference for the nomination? Wes Clark....easy choice

However, should the party choose otherwise, I will abide with our decision. Hard to beat a purple-heart winning Rhodes scholar from Arkansas though.

[RetroLounge]

31. ABB

even if it is Clark.

[Renew Deal]

32. First Party like mad...

Then work my ass off to get the ass clown out of the white house. That is, if he hasn't been thrown in prison first.

[rasputin1952]

33. Vote for him...

to do otherwise, is to ensure another 4 years of insanity.

I will vote for whomever wins the nom. That is the bottom line.

[zeemike]

34. I would prepare myself for another 4 years of bush

Because that is the obvious outcome and all of the freepers know this.
It is a set up for bush reelection and this time it will be a landslide like in California. The fix is in.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

39. How Do You Get So Tuned Into Freepers?

NT

[zeemike]

40. I have been arguing with them

For the last 6 years. By now I know how they think.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

44. In One Respect Freepers Are Similiar to DUers

they are bipolar.... they go from manic to depressed about their prospects....

they are hardly a reliable compass...

[zeemike]

47. I don’t see that

They have had nothing to be depressed about in the last 20 years because everything they care about has gone their way.
They have an ideology that revolves around Ayn Rand and the virtues of selfishness, and things look pretty good to them right now.

[LWolf]

35. Ask me if he wins.

eom

[Larkspur]

38. My vote depends on the deals made with Dean

Dean is a major factor in the Dem race. If he's shunted aside or given only token power in the Dem Party, I'll remain undecided until Election Day and then make a decision to either vote for Clark or write in someone else.

Clark is a flim-flam man and he will destroy the Democratic Party from the inside out.

If Dean is on the ticket with Clark, I most likely will vote for that ticket, but donating to the Clark-Dean ticket is in doubt, unless I feel that Dean can get those funds.

If Dean leads the ticket, even with Clark as 2nd, I will vote for that ticket and donate to that campaign.

[Speed8098]

42. Can you elaborate on your statement

Clark is a flim-flam man and he will destroy the Democratic Party from the inside out.

Why do you say that. Please provide links/facts/details to back up that statement.

I'm not particularly a Dean fan, but he IS one of my candidates, and I would NOT bash him even though there is enough ammunition to do so.

Whomever gets the Democratic nod, get's my vote.

If it's Lieberman......I pull the lever for the (D) and then go get a :beer:

[Larkspur]

45. Clark claims to be a Democrat

yet he also voted for Nixon and Reagan, praised Bush and the PNAC crowd at a GOP fundraiser in 2001, continued to support Bush's war in March of 2003, told a reporter after he had entered the Dem Prez race that he was a registered Democrat but in fact was not registered as one (Clark lied) -- he was listed as Independent.

Clark has no record as a civilian politician to evaluate. He turned down an offer from the Arkansas Democrats to run for Arkansas governor in 2000. Clark went from being a general to an employee for a company that lobbies Congress for the MIC and he didn't resign from that job until 2 weeks after announcing his run for Dem Prez nominee.

I don't have all the links because these issues have been talked about frequently on this board. Just scan DU's Political & Campaign and General Discussion forums. You'll find them all there or in the archives.

[Padraig18]

95. S.S.D.D. ... n/t

[Padraig18]

96. Vote and work for him!

:)

[Larkspur]

109. I refuse to be a private in Clark's politcal army

I never joined the military and have no ambition of following a general.

If Clark wants my vote, he'll have to earn it.

[jrthin]

43. Duh? Vote for Clark.

nt

[11 Bravo]

46. The same thing I would do if a toilet seat won the Dem nomination.

Vote for the nominee. There is no person, no object, no animal, vegetable, or mineral which I would not prefer to *.

[TreasonousBastard]

48. They can piss, moan and whine all they want to.

I see nothing wrong, and much right, with Clark. Barring wholesale Republican thievery of the election, I see no reason why he can't take it from Shrub.

I'd work for him. I'd vote for him. I'd celebrate if he won.

Could he be a ringer for something dire? Maybe. Anyone could, but there is absolutely nothing on earth worse than another four years of these shitheads.

NOTHING!

[44g]

50. VOTE FOR HIM

[RichM]

52. Laugh at how pathetic Democrats are, & work for a 3rd party

'ABB' means you have no self-respect.

[sangh0]

67. It's better than

having no effect.

[Gringo]

53. I'd Get EVERYBODY I know to vote for Clark

Although I don't think he's the best candidate, I'd swallow my pride, and work up the enthusiasm to go out and stump my ass off for him. Bush has got to go.

[LynneSin]

54. I'd vote for Bush in a heartbeat......

.......KIDDING!!!!

Seriously, is this a trick question? I'd vote for Clark. Just like I'd vote for Dean, Kerry, Kucinich, Gephardt, Edwards, Sharpton, Mosely-Braun or Lieberman if they get the nomination. (I'd vote for Graham too, but he dropped out x( )

[SiobhanClancy]

57. God,you scared me!!

I'd vote for my cat against Bush. I don't undertsand the question either.
:shrug:

[LynneSin]

72. Come on - you know me better than that

And what's your cat's stance on the war?

[BiggJawn]

55. Vote for him.

If people don't think he's "Democrat Enough" to vote for, then why, in all logic, would they go and vote for a ReTHUG Shill like King Ralph?

I'll vote for whoever my party puts up against Bush, I just hope it's NOT Lieberman....

[CMT]

58. I'd vote for him

who thinks Bush is better than Clark? If there are some people who say that on DU it must be only a couple.

[RevolutionStartsNow]

59. I'd vote for him, silly!

We've had this same discussion about Dean...yes there are probably some people here who hate Dean or Clark or Kerry -- and definitely Lieberman -- so much that they would sit out, or vote 3rd party, but I think the majority of us will fall in line. Certainly many people will be upset after the nomination when their guy doesn't win, but everyone will come to their senses quickly and get on board.

Remember that by then the Bush campaign will be in full swing, and it will be ugly. That will be enough motivation for nearly all of us.

Can't speak for the few raging haters (particularly of Dean and/or Clark), not much we can do about that, they appear to be blinded by their hatred.

[Bridget Burke]

63. Vote for him.

Of course.

[Clark Can WIN]

64. I hope to be at the convention

When he wins the nomination.


I will dance.

[Eurobabe]

65. my name ain't crozet4clark for nuthin'

[janekat]

66. Anti-Clark voters: Please read this and tell us why you'd rather see Bush

re-elected than have this man in office. It really defies all logic....

http://www.issues2000.org/Wesley_Clark.htm

Wesley Clark:

Supports University of Michigan's affirmative action plan. (Jun 15)

"I'm concerned about the lock-up policy, the 3-strikes policy, putting people in jails and the way we've treated people in prison. We've got to look seriously at the American penal system and what it does when it returns people to the streets."

Supports universal health coverage

“We went into Iraq under false pretenses. There was deceptive advertising; you'd be taking to the Better Business Bureau if you bought a washing machine the way we went into the war in Iraq.”

Compared Bush to Nixon in abusing his power to bully Congress and US allies. "This is an administration which has moved in a way we have not seen any administration since Nixon to abuse executive authority to scheme, manipulate, intimidate and maneuver.”

Full sunshine review of PATRIOT Act. (Jun 19)

Supports funding for all-day kindergarten

Establish 18:1 student-teacher ratio for grade school. (Mar 1999)

Decries lack of funding for No Child Left Behind. (Apr 28)

“The way to deal with Castro is to send Cuba American tourists, American goods and American farm products. There could be no better way to deal with this last vestigial form of Communism than to turn American business and American agriculture loose on them.”

Work with the International Criminal Court. (Jul 2002)

"We've found many times in our experience that it's best to use force only as a last resort."

”Why are so many here in America hesitant to speak out and ask questions? We're going to ask those hard questions. And in a time of war, we're going to ask those questions in the highest sense of patriotism. We are going to hold the administration accountable for its policies and results.”

Disturbed that we suspended habeus corpus for War on Terror. (Mar 23)

would consider cutting defense spending if elected, he said. "We are trapped in .....an endless occupation" of Iraq".

"we should be very reluctant to use force. It has incredible, difficult and unintended consequences, which we are once again beginning to see as we deal with the situation in Iraq."

Invest 3% of GDP on development assistance abroad. (Nov 2001)

Supports ban on assault weapons

Immigration is vital to prosperity. (Jun 17)

I am very pro-immigration. (Jun 27)

The military needs to reconsider the "don't ask, don't tell" policy for gay service members.

$5T tax cuts for the rich are legalized theft. (Jun 20)

Supports redistribution by progressive taxation. (Jun 19)

Supports a "freeze" on Bush's tax cuts that have yet to take effect for people earning $150,000 or more.

Need Marshall Plan for Middle East and Afghanistan. (Jun 17)

We went into Iraq under false pretenses. (Aug 17)

Israel: bring in Syria and Iran into peace talks. (Jun 17)

NATO was the reason for our victory in Kosovo. (Sep 2002)

Palestinians decided to return to terrorism after 2000. (Mar 2002)

Solution to terrorism is not bullets but world community. (Oct 2001)

[Clark Can WIN]

71. No takers yet huh?

:shrug:

[zeemike]

74. OK I’ll bite

Cause words are cheep and bush should be an example of that. You can say anything to get elected and do the opposite afterwards by just spinning a line to the media.
Were in an Orwellian world where doublespeak is the norm.

[OBrien]

68. I'll jump for joy WHEN he gets the nomination!

and do all I can to see he's elected

[John_H]

69. Take out a 2nd mortgage,log on to a casino, and put everything on Clark.

That way, we'd whip the Chimp and make me rich at the same time.

I know a lot of people hate to hear it but Chimpy is a one issue candidate and Clark takes it away.

[lovedems]

70. ABB

[Cocoa]

73. I'd vote for him

At this point, Clark is my #10 choice, Bush is a distant #11.

[Indy65]

75. Clark

Id vote for Clark.

[quaker bill]

76. Vote for him

Duh!

[Cascadian]

77. I would reluctantly vote for him.

He is definately not my first choice, but considering that I believe it would be unwise for any third party to front their candidates right now. The focus must be to get rid of Bush in 2004 and kick them out of the White House.

John

[Kitsune]

78. Move to Canada

Which I'll probably do anyway.

[Speed8098]

98. Adios Amigo

Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.

[Capn Sunshine]

79. But we all know he's RUNNING FOR VP

so isn't this thread just a complete moot waste of time and space ?

[Cascadian]

80. Dean/Clark.....can it work?

Frankly, I would like to see Wesley Clark as Sec. of Defense. Bob Graham would be a better fit for Dean IMHO.

John

[T Bone]

81. Same as I'll do no matter who gets the nomination

Work like hell to get him into the white house...
Voting alone won't get it done folks.
You will need to give money, blood, sweat, tears and hard work to get him or any dem in the white house.

Might as well face it, we are going to be WORKING our asses off !!

[Dr Fate]

82. Donate $, work and campaign for DEMS...

...what else would I do? I sure as hell would not vote green or puke...

[DemCam]

83. Happily vote for him.

[frank frankly]

84. I would of course vote for him

Definitely.

[LSK]

85. I'd vote for him

Bush vs Clark, that is an easy vote for Clark. I have only seen Clark speak on one townhall meeting on CSPAN, but he seemed to have all the right answers and said a lot of things I was thinking.

I think the negative things about him praising Bush really irrelevant. The fact remains he said that early in 2001 and that was before Bush had done anything (or started dismantling this country ;)) A lot of people who voted for Bush then want their votes back. Why should Clark be racked through the coals for a similar premature opinion. A lot of people have waked up to Bush, including Clark.

So lets not punish Clark for something said 2 years ago before the things started happening. He has seen the bad Bush has done just like a lot of us and wants to undo them.

[Capn Sunshine]

86. Oh BTW

If Clark got the nomination, I'd vote for him
ABB , baby

[bicentennial_baby]

87. Rock!

[Clete]

88. I would vote for him.

eom

[woofless]

89. Vote for him.

I'd vote for a syphilitic aardvark if it got the nomination against Bu$h,

[Pastiche423]

90. IF clark were to win the nom

it would be the day my party gave up the ideology that drew me to join. I would no longer want to be a member of a party that elected a whistle ass praising, PNAC loving, privacy denying, NED mercenaring, SOA teaching, orgasmic warring, lying DLC shill.

My final act as a member of the Democratic Party, would be to write in Dean.

But back to reality - I will not have to worry about that happening. clark will not get the nom.

[LTR]

99. Well, I guess your 'principles'

are more important than getting rid of Bush.

The Greens thought this way too, you know.

Utter arrogance. Getting rid of Bush, turning this country around and ending the neocon lies and acts of treason to the American people are THE priorities in 2004.

That said, I'll vote for any Dem over Bush. Even Lieberman (though I would not admit it). If you want to vote for someone other than the Dem nominee (whoever it may be), well, you might as well vote for Bush.

[Pastiche423]

110. Just who is arrogant here?

This was a hypothetical question and unrealistic, as far as I am concerned. I truly do not believe clark will win the Democratic nom, since I truly do not believe he is a Democratic.

And get over the "you might as well vote for whistle ass" statement. I am not a repug and I do not goosestep. I vote for real Democrats, always have, always will.

[Renew Deal]

103. I would get my Bic ready if I were you.

Because that write in is possible. Would you vote for Clark with Dean as VP?

[Pastiche423]

111. No

[regnaD kciN]

91. I'd vote for the Democratic candidate...

...at this moment, I wouldn't be as happy casting a vote for Clark as I would for Dean, but I certainly wouldn't feel the need to hold my nose while doing so, which I would have to do if the nominee were Kerry (and don't even ask me about Holy Joe!).

[Piperay]

92. Clark, YIPPPPEEE

Clark is my guy so I will be THRILLED if he gets the nomination and sooooooooo HAPPY to vote for him! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :-)

[AnnitaR]

93. I will support WHOEVER wins the nomination! n/t

[morgan2]

97. write in santa claus

cause clark is a phoney

[Evil_Dewers]

114. Is Bush a phony?

You spell like a freeper.

[laruemtt]

100. vote for him?

is this a trick question? :dem:

[ignatius]

101. I would let loose the pigeons and get ready to

dance barefoot in the street come November,2004!!!

[ShaneGR]

102. I'd be very happy to support him

And extremely happy when he wins 3 or 4 southern states and sends Bush back to Crawford.

[DEM FAN]

104. I Would Support Him To.

Anybody But Bush.

[Blue_Roses]

105. support him and vote

for him...simple

[gully]

106. Vote for Clark...duh!

:)

[Dob Bole]

107. I'd vote for Zell Miller, Lieberman or the Ambiguously Gay Duo before Bush

Even if Bush were a Democrat running against himself, I would vote for him to get rid of Rumsfeld, Ashcroft, Cheney, Wolfowitz, Rove, etc.

[TLM]

108. I'll probably write in Dean...

I don't vote for republicans who worked for Kissinger.

[Evil_Dewers]

112. I would vote for Clark.

[SeveneightyWhoa]

113. Clark would..

..make an infinitely better president than Howard Dean would. I believe Clark will overtake Dean, if hasn't already. He's extremely electable and the only thing stopping him from being president is Howard Dean, who for some reason has gotten a ton of support even though he's definitely not an ideal candidate (neither is Clark, of course, but Dean really makes me nervous).

[w4rma]

116. No. Dean is the better candidate and Dean is better able to articulate

a message against Bush. IMHO, if it weren't for Dean, the Democratic leadership would be putting up some sacrificial lamb.

Clark would make a good president and a better campaigner after some experience. Right now, IMHO, Clark would be another Dukakis/McGovern war-hero who would lose due to lack of funding, message articulation or some minor "Willie Horton" scandal that the GOP would repeat ad nausium.

Dean has already been vetted for 11 years by the many GOP opponents that he has easily beaten. Clark is untested.

OnEdit: Of course I'd vote for Clark in the general election. Heck, I support him for Dean's Vice President.

[onecitizen]

115. Support him and...........

vote for him if he's our guy.