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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:28 AM
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So it's pretty much official. Harriet's an evangelical pro-lifer
according to long time friend and co-worker, Judge Nathan Hecht of Austin, Texas, who was interviewed live on the Today Show minutes ago by Katie Couric.

I'm sure that any conservatives who were still wondering about her will breathe a collective sigh of relief now. Wonderful.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:30 AM
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1. She can be anything she wants.
Just not a SCOTUS. She IS NOT A JUDGE! She is the puppet of a puppet fer crissakes. We need impeachment before we need to replace Sandra.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:33 AM
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2. The so-called "opposition"
from the conservative right was simply an example of "perception management." Bush has nominated ONLY conservative right-wing people for federal court positions. The opposition was a stage show to try to dilute democratic concerns.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:42 AM
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6. I seriously don't believe that
You listen to Rush or read some of thse other columnists and the passion against this woman and anger with Bush comes through pretty clearly.

Why would they worry about appeasing us? To Bush's base a battle with us would only make him stronger. Now I wouldn't be surprised if Bush (or more accurately, Rove) figured that this would be the response and factored it into his plans, but I don't think they told Rush and others to pretend to be pissed off at this woman.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:45 AM
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7. It's not to
"appease" anyone. It's to dilute opposition. Those are two different things. However, you are as entitled to your opinion as I am to mine. I would suggest, though, that the republican machine is very capable of perception management. That should not be confused with handing every fool a script.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:17 AM
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12. I don't doubt that they are skilled at perception management
The question is which of these two scenarios is likely

1). Several leading Conservative Commentators slam into Ms. Miers because they are told to, irregardless of their actual opinion of her, in order to manage perception.

2). In selecting the candidate, Karl Rove deliberately pushes the nomination of a loyal non-entity, knowing it will enflame parts of the right, making her look more mainstream.

I'd say 2 is the more likely scenario.

Bryant
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:42 AM
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14. The chances
that those two choices reflect the likely options seems limited.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 08:07 AM
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18. What is your option?
They were pretty broad, weren't they?

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gademocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:34 AM
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3. Isn't that nice
She is a corporate shill for shrub. She helped cover up his guard duty. The law firm in which she was a senior partner was sued for defrauding investors. But Harry's a "Christian".
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:38 AM
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5. "She helped cover up his guard duty". Yes, she's very good at
keeping secrets for the Bush family, as she's proven in the past. This is supposed to be her strong point.
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watrwefitinfor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:36 AM
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4. Katy defined abortion as the main question about Harriet.
In reply to Katy's only question about her qualifications, he said that Harriet had been president of the Dallas Bar Association and was going to be head of the American Bar Association if she hadn't taken "this job" meaning I suppose with Bush.

Say huh? How did he know this? Was she already elected president of the ABA :sarcasm: or was the fix in?

Wat
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:46 AM
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8. So why are people like Brownback and Cornyn
pitching a fit about her?
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:50 AM
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9.  Did ya notice the wink, wink, nudge, nudge
I did and it's creeping me out. What this administration is saying to their hard core righties is "sssshhhhhh!!! Don't worry, we got it covered!" From Bush's born again lingo "I know what's in her heart." to Cheney's little heart to heart with Limpballs. And then there is Dobson with this "I know a secret and it's all good" crap.


Shit people........I got a bad feeling.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 08:00 AM
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16. No, you just gave me hope.
Now I remember all the little cliques in high school. Isn't good enough to just have FRIENDS, have to take some kind of code of loyalty.
I never did that. I was solo.

But. Think about it. They were the reason for their own destruction. Put your faith in a group of people (or even one), and you are going to get let down and disappointed every time. Eventually.

They will destory themselves from within. They've got a head start now.
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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:10 AM
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26. Well Tinksrival... I have a bad feeling too... this is *'s STEALTH nominee
Really, this IS The Big Bad Wolf in sheep's clothing... I told my Dad just yesterday that she is the "Trojan Horse". Here comes the end of Roe v. Wade... here comes the beginning of TRUE judicial activitsm, here comes the final assent of dominionism, the advent of Christo-fascism in all its ignominious "glory". Be sure of this! Christo-Fascism is at the door.

Look out folks... for real, this is the "plant" in SCOTUS. This will probably be the last one that BushCo will be able to appoint... and their Neo-con-christo-conservative friends? ...they will not disappoint!

Harriet is very, very bad new folks. Mark my words! :cry:
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:57 AM
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10. Didn't you love that "wonderful" montage of photos of Miers, as NBC is
doing their darned best as Bushpropagandists?
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:15 AM
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11. Hee hee hee....
And yet right wingers are up in arms because she's not crazy and biased enough to suit.

"I'm sure that any conservatives who were still wondering about her will breathe a collective sigh of relief now."
Actually, I'll bet this spurs them inot even more rage.
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 08:11 AM
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19. The rw'ingers may be up in arms ...
but sadly, I believe she will prove to be crazed and biased enough for them once on the bench :cry:
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 08:38 AM
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20. Maybe yes, maybe no...
I think she's the best you're going to get out of this assministration...and she's doing a great deal of damage to the GOP along the way.
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 08:45 AM
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21. I agree that we can't expect anything good ...
... or even acceptable, out of the administration and (with all my heart) I hope you are correct about the damage she is doing to the repukes ... I just fear that she will prove to be a crazed zealot once on the court and that will be validating and unifying for the insane RW.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 09:42 AM
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24. We're going to get one...
Do you think Fat Tony Scalia and Uncle Clarence are "validating and unifying"? I suspect most people think one's a crook and one's an incompetent token.
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 09:50 AM
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25. Again, I agree with some of what you said ...
Edited on Thu Oct-06-05 09:53 AM by etherealtruth
Thomas is a joke ... I do, however, think that Scalia is revered by the RW'ing nuts which validates and unifies them.

Again, I hope I am wrong.

Edit: I am not trying to be obnoxious ... I would love for (no sarcasm) you to convince me. My perspective is of doom and glomm and I prefer not to be so negative.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 03:08 PM
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28. I think the best we can hope for is
another Sandra Day O'Connor...

But this was set in motion when Kerry didn't win. And she IS better than some of what Chimpy could have dredged out of the cesspool...if she wasn't, you wouldn't see wingnuts howling in rage.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:29 AM
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13. Where does Miers stand on Bush family buddy, Rev. Moon?
Edited on Thu Oct-06-05 07:45 AM by SpiralHawk
Moon has proclaimed himself to be the Second Coming of Christ.

The Bush Klan all likes Moon -- and has a "scratch my back" relationship with him and his USA Media Borg.

Where does Miers stand on "Rev." Moon? Does she BELIEVE he is the Second Coming of Christ?
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 08:03 AM
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17. Oh he's the Messiah alright
He got crowned. But I heard he's retiring. So we can rest in peace.
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newportdadde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:43 AM
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15. Wasn't that judge also the one who was her boyfriend?
Pretty sure I heard he was making the rounds, longtime friend, one time boyfriend etc.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 09:03 AM
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22. That was her "boyfriend"
the Magistrate that spoke on her behalf.

I think the right fears she is not experienced enough to stand up to the moderates on the court who could sway her (perhaps) and not able to counter the arguements of good lawyers who come before the court from opposing positions. Could she stand up to someone like David Boise? Doubtful.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 09:12 AM
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23. Did he say "evangelical" or "fundamentalist"....
there is a big difference (or can be) between the two terms.
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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:57 AM
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27. kick
:kick:
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