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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 12:11 PM
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Best strategy to set up the nomination of extremist Janice Rogers Brown
For those who don’t know her, Judge Janice Rogers Brown is a Bush favorite and an insanely far right-wing female judge from California whose controversial nomination to the ultra-conservative DC Circuit Court of Appeal was made possible by the Senate "compromise" over the so-called nuclear option.

Here’s what others say about Judge Brown:

Brown “has such an atrocious civil rights record she makes Clarence Thomas look like Thurgood Marshall." Rep. Diane Watson (D-CA)
“All the work that I did…was undermined by that judge.” Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA)
Brown “wants to turn back the clock, not just a few years, but by a century or more.” Sen. Charles Schumer (D-NY)

Judge Brown’s own words give an even clearer picture of her judicial temperament:

“Liberalism’s vaunted tolerance and openness is a lie. In America, at least, liberalism is tolerant only of those concerns to which it is indifferent.”
“Today’s senior citizens blithely cannibalize their grandchildren because they have a right to get as much ‘free’ stuff as the political system will permit them to extract.”
“The United States Supreme Court, however, began in the 1940s to incorporate the Bill of Rights into the 14th Amendment… The argument on the other side is pretty overwhelming that it’s probably not incorporated.”
“Politicians in their eagerness to please and to provide something of value to their constituencies that does not have a price tag are handing out new rights like lollipops in the dentist’s office.”
“In the last 100 years – and particularly the last 30 – the Constitution, once the fixed chart of our aspirations, has been demoted to the status of a bad chain novel.”

If I was the President and I wanted to bolster the chances of successfully nominating a real nut job like Janice Rogers Brown to the Supreme Court, what would I do?

First, I would have to deal with the fact that Brown has a long record where she had been very candid about her opinions. Maybe I could nominate a “straw man” candidate who is the opposite of Judge Brown – someone who has no record and who has not been candid about her opinions. This might be a good way to force a bunch of Democratic Senators to make statements about how a long record of clear statements was a good thing. If the Democratic Senators filibustered this “straw man” candidate because she has no record and is reluctant to express her political opinions, then maybe that would make those Democratic Senators look foolish if they subsequently make the exact opposite objection to my next nominee, Judge Brown (they will already catch hell for opposing Judge Brown less than a year after they agreed that she was good enough for the DC Circuit Court of Appeals; Karl says we can call them “flip floppers” hee hee).

Next, I would want the Democrats to spend their energy filibustering “the straw man” candidate so that they would be less reluctant to filibuster my next nominee, Judge Brown.

Finally, worst case scenario, if I nominate one female candidate who’s got too little of a record and the Democrats filibuster her and if I nominate a second female candidate and the Democrats filibuster her because she has too much of a record, I could finally nominate a good ol’ boy without pissing off the First Lady.

OK, let’s go with the “straw man” nominee and see where it gets us.
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tmooses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 12:16 PM
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1. And if the Dems realized she is a "straw man", wouldn't they come out
and support her (as Reid did) to put the ball in the conservatives' court?
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 03:58 PM
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7. I'm torn. Sometimes I think Reid's tepid endorsement was brilliant, but at
other times I worry that, since he is not pro-choice, his tepid endorsement might just indicate that he doesn't have a dog in this fight.

I am not one of those who will crucify Reid over his remarks concerning Miers (I'm more upset that he's an otherwise reasonable person who has spooky views on who should have sovereignty over women's wombs).
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 12:20 PM
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2. This is how I see it.
We may be able to filibuster Miers but we won't have that option with the next nominee. If Miers isn't appointed, the next nominee is going to be worse and the Republicans will not allow a second filibuster of a Supreme Court nomination.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 02:12 PM
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5. I think you are right.
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AlphaCat Donating Member (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 12:40 PM
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3. Now, I'm not sure how the whole thing works, but...
...even if all that you said is true, then--in order to scotch the thing--wouldn't the Democrats simply have to approve this Miers woman?
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 01:21 PM
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4. If there is anyone in the White House who has this series of events in
mind (and I wouldn't put if past Rove), the Democrats could scotch the whole thing by non filibustering. But consider this: what if BushInc has decided that it would like to lay precedent for a nominee with no background who ALSO refuses to answer any substantive questions or to provide memorandums from prior work within the administration. Either the Senate Democrats would feel obliged to filibuster or they would have tacitly accepted the ultimate stonewall as a successful tactic for future judicial nominees.

I'm just trying to find some justification for this fairly inexplicable nomination.
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AlphaCat Donating Member (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 02:30 PM
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6. Yes...
...she was the last person I would've guessed he'd choose... I can't figure it out either--it DOES make me wonder what's up...
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 06:10 PM
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9. Either she's a straw man or Bush picked her because (1) he only appoints
cronies, (2) he felt the need to pick a woman (because either Pickles or TurdBlossom made him), and (3) she's the only woman with a law degree he knows well enough to consider a crony.
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AlphaCat Donating Member (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 10:20 PM
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11. Do you think...
...that the GOP would not approve her, thereby paving the way for Brown?
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 11:43 AM
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12. I can't believe that there are more than 5 Reptilicans who have the spine
to oppose Bush on this.
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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 04:12 PM
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8. Oh, wouldn't that be frickin' exquisite?
Hoisted on our own petard, as it were. Maybe we are being sucked into something, but either way its a loser. Do you want to be beaten with the hose or the strap?

Can there be any doubt that having the election stolen in 2000 will be the worst thing to happen to this country for just this very reason? Forget the deficits, the lying, deciet, even the war. We are facing a SCOTUS from hell for the next 30 years.

What happened to the Canadian invasion of NOLA?
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ABaker Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 06:26 PM
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10. Another possibility
Stevens retires in 2 years (he's 85) and Brown named to replace him
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 11:45 AM
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13. Filibuster both if need be. Force Bush to withdraw two in a row.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:18 PM
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14. If we couldn't even do any better than a 22 yea, 22 nay vote on Roberts,
how can we hope to get behind one filibuster let alone two?

DeLay and Frist are scumbags, but they keep the Republicans in line (or at least they did until DeLay's money laundering and Frist's insider stock dump caught up with them). Who's failing to keep our representatives in line?
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