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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:18 AM
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Don't like spineless, cojone-less dems? Quit bitching
and run for office.

You don't like where the party isn't heading? Go down to your local Dem. HQ and get your ass to work.

I'll give you a clue. The folks down at the party who register voters and go door to door year after year trying to get folks to vote don't read DU. Some of them listen to Howard Dean.

None of them are listening to you bitch.

Get down and do something, for chrissakes. Get off your ass and get to work.

If you aren't doing something, you aren't doing something, get it?

The one who says he can't and the one who says he can are both right. Which one are you?

I've got to go to a party luncheon and introduce my candidate to the party faithful, the few who remain in Lubbock, so flame away.
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lateo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:21 AM
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1. About "running for office"
It isn't always as easy as throwing your hat in the ring. The Dem party where I live is a fiefdom and you can't get nominated unless they want you to be nominated.

Sure you could run on your own but that takes lots of personal funds.
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Boomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:25 AM
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4. Same in my area
The local Dems are a closed circle, very wary of outsiders, which includes most anyone who hasn't lived in the area all their life.
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Boomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:23 AM
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2. The Democratic Party: Love it or leave it!
Hmmm. Where have I heard that before?

I wonder at what point valid debate and pointed criticism become unwelcome "bitching"? As if it's not possible to do both: criticize AND work.
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i_c_a_White_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:25 AM
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3. I Agree
Since when is criticism construed as bitching?
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:25 AM
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5. Bitching is necissary
This is a forum not our local state gov. If the current mindset here is that we have to play the political game. We have to have the money to get the votes. We have to play to the middle and not scare the uncommitteds away.

This is a losing strategy. Yes we have to act as well as bitch. But we also need to get others to see that if we do not stand up for things we believe in we will not be taken seriously when we stand up for things that are opportunistic. People can recognise opportunism when they see it. And they don't like it.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:26 AM
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6. Not everyone can run.
But I like to think that the people complaining at least consider it and decline for good reasons.
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politicaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:29 AM
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7. Wow...you didn't kick back and think, "Perhaps I'm just being a jerk."...
before posting this?

Oh god, here I am wasting my time with you. Many people have this problem before they mature so let me help you: Not everyone is you, okay, so stop expecting everyone to be you.

Thanks for your dedication to the democratic party. Stop with the nagging though, it isn't becoming.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:33 AM
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8. Oh is that all it takes? Sounds easy. While I'm at it, do you know anybody
Edited on Mon Oct-03-05 11:33 AM by greyhound1966
at the DNC that I can call to get the money that's going to be required for my candidacy, I might add that since I live in a red State, the DNC frequently doesn't even run candidates here. My bush-bot Senator ran unopposed last time, and it's doesn't look like the guy that wants to oppose him is getting any love from the dems.
I guess they figure we're just a lost cause so why bother helping the cadidates. :banghead:
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:34 AM
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9. TWO sexist terms in just one thread title! Well done!
You don't need cojones to have moral fortitude.

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Crowdance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:44 AM
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10. "Representative Government" is what we call it
As citizens we're obliged to speak up. You surely are not implying that only those IN government are entitled to a SAY in government.There wouldn't be enough seats for all of us, and our nation would be very nonproductive. We've ALL got skin in the game.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:44 AM
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11. you've convinced me!
Patty Murray, you spineless corporate DINO, i'm taking you on! Senator Max Solomon!

Does anyone think my lack of money, unapologetic use of illegal drugs, & open hostility to monotheism is a liability?
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:47 AM
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12. How simple
I'll rush right out and start running and get elected in this uber republican area.

:sarcasm:
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:56 AM
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13. And some of us have been doing just that
Since before you were a gleam in your daddy's eye, and yet despite our involvment, countless hours of toil, gallons of sweat, tears and blood, along with a boatload of money, the Democratic party continues its uber rightward swing, leaving the base choking in the dust while they continue to pander to corporate America for that wonderful corporate lucre:eyes:

Sorry pal, but your little diatribe is pointless and over the top. You don't like to hear people bitching about the party, don't click on those threads. You can't force everybody to think alike even in the best of times, and friend, these certainly aren't the best of times.

Your post is presuming a lot, with little knowledge to base it on. Many many people whom you are criticizing either have been or currently are extremely active in their local party. And yet such involvement is apparently doing little good as the party bends over very every piece of corporate sewage that comes down the pipe, from the IWR to the Patriot Act to the bankruptcy bill, and on and on ad nauseum. Pretty soon it becomes very difficult to not criticize a party that is deep in the pockets of big business.

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