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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:49 PM
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John Stossel is full of Shit
They had him on an ABC Katrina special on the radio last night and it was like he was hitting on every Republican talking point from criticizing the Mayor for not using the School Busses to saying "The Gov. looked like a deer caught in the headlights and failed to send in the National Guard". Then he went on to push most of the blame of the failure to fix the levies on guys like John Breaux. He hit FEMA with a couple of soft punches but it was clearly one sided BS!

Is it me or is ABC News turning into another branch of FOX?
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:50 PM
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1. Stossel has ALWAYS been full of shit.
From day one, that man has been full of it. And seems like he has a large pole of some kind up his ass, as well.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:53 PM
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8. A few years ago someone put Stossel's credibility up for auction
Edited on Mon Sep-19-05 09:53 PM by Jim Sagle
on E-Bay.

Before it was pulled off line, it only got four bids. The highest bid was $2.25.
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:31 PM
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25. ha - they might want to re list that auction
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:51 PM
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2. Stossel is full of shit and
every other conceivable malignancy.

Turn him off.
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:51 PM
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3. He always has been Dittothead Moran
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:52 PM
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4. I love how a few weeks ago he praised price gougers.
He's a dick. And that moustache makes him look like the biker from the Village People.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200509080021
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:52 PM
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5. Don't you mean John 'Stache-el
Edited on Mon Sep-19-05 09:53 PM by SlavesandBulldozers

pictured here at a 1985 Mustache Convention in Ann Arbor, Michigan
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:52 PM
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6. Let's see, I've seen him rail against public education and state that
poor people in America are doing just fine because they have VCRs (this was a few years ago, but even then, VCRs cost all of $50). He spouts all the usual economic Libertarian crap.

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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:56 PM
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12. I watched him go on about cell phone use while driving NOT
being excessively dangerous. He was apparently pissed off that it was declared illegal in a few states. :shrug:

Also watched him unnecessarily upset the families killed by the first female serial killer (whose name escapes me at the moment). It seemed cruel and rather pointless.

He's an asshat!
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:04 PM
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15. Aileen Wuornos
Is that the name?
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:19 PM
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16. Yes, thank you!
How are you tonight, Horse with no name?

He's such an asshat--as if those people hadn't suffered enough, he went shit stirring and of course found people that were upset by the film portrayal of Wuornos, as one people may potentially feel sorry for.

He's just a horrible journalist, if one could even call him that.

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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:53 PM
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7. John Stossel is an asshole!
I wouldn't hold ABC's feet to the fire over him. Though, I honestly can't attest to whether they've been fair in their Katrina coverage or holding this admin. accountable.

Stossel is a seperate issue, as he is such a piece of unique work. I can't stand him, and very rarely watch that show because of him. In my opinion, many of his reports do more harm than good.
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maine_raptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:54 PM
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9. Stossel defended price gouging after Katrina hit. What does that tell you?
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:54 PM
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10. I just want to add that even before I was remotely political,
I used to watch his "Give Me a Break" shit on TV and think "now THERE is a complete ASS."

He should give us a big fucking break from HIM. When does he retire anyway?

I agree with someone else on this thread: turn him and every other asshole OFF. It's the only thing that truly scares them--total irrelevance and a lack of an audience.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:54 PM
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11. It aint ABC, Stossel is simply a RW nut job Freeper
Ignore him and you will feel better.
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:57 PM
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13. he never lets the facts get in the way of a good right-wing diatribe...
....he is an ideologue masquerading as some kind of journalist. He is not taken seriously even by people in the biz.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:01 PM
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14. Center for Media & Democracy on Stossel...
....

Goldin also reported that at his Los Angeles book launch a man in the audience challenged Stossel's exhortations on the benefits of free market capitalism. "During the electrical crisis L.A. was the only place that wasn't affected because we had public power. Meanwhile, Enron stole billions of dollars," he said.

In response Stossel claimed the collapse of Enron proved that the system worked. "There are no big national scams except for Enron. Because markets figure it out. Not the government. Enron is an example of how well the market worked for people. Enron's stock came tumbling down. When the government fails, we give them more money. So, yes, there are Enrons, but the exception proves the rule," he said. <6> (http://www.laweekly.com/ink/04/11/a.php)

In response to Stossel's letter, Golden expressed his amazement at the claim that the Enron collapse was an example of the market working. "Enron collapsed not due to a stock tumble but because government investigations disclosed accounting fraud, and Ken Lay's Ponzi scheme was exposed. Most investors lost their shirts, and thousands of Enron employees lost their jobs. That's "how well the market works for people"? Perhaps we should ask, if John Stossel wasn't drinking a vodka tonic, what was he drinking?," he wrote. <7> (http://laweekly.com/ink/04/14/letters.php)

Appearing on the Al Franken show 07/22/2004, Stossel was challenged about his book's claim that the government spends nearly $10,000 per poor person. Flipping through the galleys for the book, Franken noticed this figure and expressed skepticism. He found the figure was calculated by dividing the amount spent on means-tested programs divided by the number of poor people. This, Franken pointed out, was absurd because lots of means-tested money goes to people above the poverty line. Stossel promised he would fix this but in the published book he makes the same mistake, but cites a think tank. Franken called the think tank about the issue, and after two days of searching for where they had published the number, they concluded Stossel got it using the same division method. Franken challenged Stossel about this live in studio; Stossel denied that this was how it was calculated.


....

http://sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=John_Stossel
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:20 PM
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17. Stupid, full of shit, and fuckin' nuts.
Homage to George Carlin.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:21 PM
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18. Aye- the freebooter's tales do not ring true. ARRRRGGGG!!!
'Tis time his kind was made to walk the plank! ARRRGGGG!!!!

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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:22 PM
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19. It must be so hard to make public policy from a newsroom.
We've been over this before. In the grand scheme of all the screwups, not mobilizing the school buses was a relatively small screwup (though it was a screwup). They would have only gotten out about 13,000 people, out of the 100,000 stranded in the city. All the drivers split town anyway. The city did bus out several thousand people with municipal buses, and moving people to the Superdome actually saved many lives, and it would have saved more had they been quickly evacuated.

Blanco asked for the National Guard as early as Sunday. It was not helpful that a good chunk of them are off in Iraq killing people and stealing their oil. Much of their equipment is over there too.

John Breaux fought for those levee improvements for years, but his funding requests were usually not met, including by this Administration.

People like Stossel need to shutup, get out of the way and let the professionals do their jobs.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:22 PM
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20. Not ABC, just Stossel, who is a major league asshole.
Big time.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:24 PM
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21. Here's one for John Stossel.
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:25 PM
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22. Do a search on FAIRs web site on Stossel
Edited on Mon Sep-19-05 10:26 PM by iconoclastNYC
He's on the payroll of some right-wing libertarian think tank, you can take that to the bank.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:27 PM
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23. Fuck him and his porn mustache. n/t
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:47 PM
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28. lmao n/t
:rofl:
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:29 PM
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24. Stossel is a whining fucking pantywaist.
Every time I see his smug mustachioed face I want to bitch slap it black and blue.

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Bombero1956 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:41 PM
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27. apparently
David Schultz didn't slap him hard enough or maybe he slapped him too hard back in 1986. I don't remember him being such an asshole until then. By the way Stossel who's a big proponent of tort reform sued Schultz and settled for $200,000 for pain and suffering.
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:03 PM
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32. Oh GAWD.
What a damn fool. The mere sound of Stossel's nasal drone is enough to make me want to drink paint thinner.
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La Coliniere Donating Member (581 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:35 PM
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26. Supercilious creep
who always gets on my nerves. Somewhere underneath that lip mop is a microcephalic brain and soul.
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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:54 PM
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29. he's been caught blatantly making shit up, numerous times
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:59 PM
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30. ABC has been turning into another Faux
ABC had a RW bias when Jennings was there. After Jennings left it got much worse. I can't watch in anymore.

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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:18 PM
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33. I felt their coverage of Katrina tended to put more blame on local
and state officials than Federal. Media Matters called them out on using a Right Wing plant for their coverage. The same guy who had made the rounds at FOX. I have stopped watching them and only turn to CBS and NBC now for the 5:30 news.
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:59 PM
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31. He's the same one that just said price gouging is a good thing...
So any idiotic statements out of his mouth no longer surprise me.
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