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LEW Donating Member (809 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 07:50 AM
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Mold a serious problem!
Edited on Wed Sep-14-05 07:59 AM by LEW
I know from personal experience how important this issue is, please read and at the end is my mold story.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9257610/


"The conditions now are ideal" for mold to grow, Wasserman says. "The mold problems will be very significant."
Advice for returning home
Before people settle back into their homes, the buildings should be inspected by health officials and proper steps should be taken to deal with the mold, says Dr. Dorsett Smith, a respiratory specialist at the University of Washington in Seattle and a member of the disaster response committee for the American College of Chest Physicians.
Damp wallboards should be removed and the studs behind them inspected. Mold grows on the cellulose in wood, and as long as moisture remains the mold will flourish, Smith says.
"With moisture, heat and food it can survive for years," he says.
Airing out the house and spraying wood with fungicide can help, but in some cases walls will have to be completely torn down to properly get rid of the mold, experts say.


My mold story:

I am on a mission to help others become aware of how simple mold in your home can have potentially catastrophic affects. I am not wanting to have my home declared a “super fund” site, nor have I any desire to sue anyone, I just want people to be aware of, and know the harmful effects of household mold.

I have been taught since childhood that if I work hard, be respectful, and do the “right” thing that everything will be ok. Then life happens, and your plans, hopes and dreams somehow go wrong, and your world is suddenly turned upside down to the point of questioning your own sanity. But deep down what I was taught still guides me, and despite all, I know it will be all right in the end, even though the end is not yet here.

It all began for us in May of 2002 when we purchased our “perfect” home. A nice 1929 bungalow with 1.5 acres, and the right price. We sold our home, moved in and jumped right into the needed repairs, and making it ours.

One month later I began to get sick. After 6 months still sick and enduring test after test, doctor after doctor nothing could be found “medically” wrong. I was finally told maybe I needed a psychiatrist, and was labeled a neurotic, menopausal, hypochondriac. Wow, I knew, I was a little high strung, and some may call me a little crazy, but these problems were not in my head. I kept searching for the answer as to why I and now my family were so sick.

Then I opened the newspaper one day and began to read a mold story and decided to do some research. The first thing I discovered was the many varying opinions on mold and how serious a problem it could be and that this went way beyond my knowledge base. I tracked down an environmental consultant to do an assessment of our home. This was one of the best decisions we made and I learned a lot. Mold needs food and water to survive. Molds are not all bad, but when there is a moisture problem in your home mold will begin to grow and feed on any available food source. Mold loves construction materials; i.e. wood, drywall, fiberboard insulation etc. Once it begins to grow it develops roots and begins to rot the materials and mix with the chemicals and this in turn produces mycotoxins. As mold grows it produces spores and even when the water is stopped the mold cells will go dormant, but the spores don’t. The spores are the principle carriers of the toxins and these are what become airborne. Once airborne these spores are just like pollen, every time they are disturbed by touching or just walking by more spores are released into the air. Breathing in the mycotoxins are what caused the symptoms I experienced. Headaches, extreme fatigue, joint pain, digestive problems, cough, nose bleeds, skin rashes and open sores.

We did not have visible mold growing on the walls, it was all hidden, and even the mold consultant did not think we really had a bad mold problem. He suggested we remove the paneling from the basement walls and he did an air quality test.

That weekend it was raining and I convinced my husband and sons to start taking down the paneling in the basement. That was when the fun began. We discovered the main water line into the house was leaking. A drip, drip leak onto the wood frame and fiberboard insulation for the paneling. Perfect, a 24-hour water source, food and darkness, a mold spore’s dream! Then as we took more paneling down we also discovered a room! What we thought was a small crawl space under our sunroom was actually a room with a 6’ ceiling, dirt floor, brick walls and filled with cardboard boxes and old wood doors. It was completely sealed off with no ventilation and very wet. The perfect haven, a hidden room. We now knew that there were two major mold sources.

Where do you begin, what do you do, and how? The first thing was to call the mold consultant. After discussing what we found with the consultant, we sealed the stairway to the basement and put duct tape over all the air vents. The basement needed to be gutted, vacuumed with a hepa vacuum and sprayed with a biocide chemical. Then remove and replace the heating and AC system and clean the duct work. Also, the whole house needed to be emptied and everything either cleaned with the biocide or thrown away. A plan, ok, we could do this. Ohhhh the power of denial.

We could not afford to hire a mold remediation company, so we began the work ourselves. The guys worked in the basement and I started upstairs. Three dumpsters later, what was left and could be cleaned was in our garage. We had to throw out anything paper, since it cannot be cleaned. Books, pictures, office paperwork. Our couch, chairs and mattress’s also could not be cleaned, gone. Dried flower arrangements, small kitchen appliances, Christmas decorations, and all our food, gone, gone, gone. Anything that was not hard and cleanable was thrown out.

Our neighbors must have thought these people have lost their minds. Our garage was full, the back patio was piled with all our clothes waiting to be washed, and behind the barn was another pile of debris from the basement and most of our furniture. We were up by 5:00 in the morning and never stopped before 8 or 9 at night. We slept in the house with the windows open and no heat for a week.

After the house was emptied, we hepa vacuumed every square inch, then spayed and wet wiped it all with the biocide. We ended up taking what personal possessions were left out of our garage, one at a time, spraying and wiping them down then taking them back inside. Little by little our house was beginning to be put back together. In all this took about a month. My husband and boys were wonderful through all of this. We all took our turn having a little nervous break down, but then back to work. Of course we were really stressed, because my husband and I were still working full time and the boys were still in school.

We had to keep the basement dry so the next step was to trench around the foundation, tar the walls and install drain tile to carry the water away from the house. We also have two dehumidifiers going to keep the humidity down and the basement dry.

By September we were ready to begin gutting the walk up attic. (I don’t think “ready” is the right word, it should be no choice but to begin gutting the attic) it was we hoped the final step. We had sealed the attic off while we worked on the rest of the house because it was just too much at the time.

Soooo, we began and I was feeling really good, the end was in sight! Then my husband came downstairs. He had discovered more mold! We knew the roof was not done correctly by the previous owners, but had no idea how bad it was. The insulation and old drywall was filled with mold from previous roof leaks. There was no flashing around the chimney or vents and they were leaking. The ceilings were plaster and lathe and there were signs that the lathe board was moldy. We had now found the 3rd source of mold and realized the rest of the house needed to be gutted.

I cannot describe the range of emotions we experienced. We were worn out and beyond exhaustion and looking at losing everything. I have to tell the truth, we seriously considered just walking away and giving the house to the bank. But pride or stupidity (however, you view it) kept us from taking that step. We decided not to give up but to borrow more money and get rid of the mold.

After finishing the attic we started on the kitchen. The mold in the ceiling was really bad and no matter how we tried the seal off the area the spores were everywhere and I was really sick. It was now painfully obvious that we could not live in the house anymore and complete the work at the same time. We moved out.

It has now been six months. Every room has been gutted, cleaned, sealed and floors sanded. Drywall, paint, flooring and finish work is done and the “for sale” sign is in the front yard. We have been through too much.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 07:54 AM
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1. Add the toxic nature of the water....
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 08:15 AM
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2. OMG!!! What a nightmare. I am completely petrified of mold.
I know that sounds funny, but I've heard some of these stories before and I thought, I couldn't handle all that. It would seem easier to bulldoze the house and rebuild it, not that anyone I even know could afford to do that, hence the nightmare. I'm so sorry you lost so much of your belongings, especially the pictures.

Our house has had massive water issues from the basement running a river through it when it rains, to the roof leaking, to the upstairs bathroom leaking down into the downstairs bathroom, to the radiators that weren't bled right, leaking in all of our rooms. We have absolutely no money, no energy to fix it ourselves (husb. on disability) and in order for me to stay sane, I just bleach everything as best I can, use room air cleaners, vacuum with hepa filter, etc, and a few dehumidifiers.

For the sake of sanity, I choose not to think of what is behind the walls, under the floors and around the pipes. We all have headaches here on a pretty regular basis, skin rashes pop up more often than not, and it's just something we are living with until we can either, rip it up, like you did, knock it down, like I'd really like to PERSONALLY do, or sell as is with some serious discount and let whomever wants to, fix it themselves.

Whenever things are so unbelievably difficult, I just repeat my mantra, if it doesn't kill me, I'll get over it. May your next home, (hopefully brand spanking new, maybe in a dessert somewhere in AZ??) be a healthy home, and you and your family find comfort in it.
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LEW Donating Member (809 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 10:54 AM
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9. Oh my, how I completely understand halobeam
I know it sounds impossible, but please, please put up front in your mind a way to leave that home.

You are doing the right things, dehumidier etc. to hopefully keep it under control. The only commet I have is that despite popular belief bleach does not kill mold. It only turns the outside white but does nothing to reach the roots and the inside cell that will keep growing. You would be better off using a disenfectant like Mr. Clean or clorox does now have a biocide bleach.

Good luck.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:05 AM
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15. yes mold hysteria is a big money maker these days
Edited on Wed Sep-14-05 11:08 AM by pitohui
we've always had mold in new orleans and in the gulf coast region

it wasn't until the lawyers hopped onto it a few yrs ago that it killed anybody

before that we lived just fine w.out cracking up from the very thought of mold, an unavoidable part of life in the gulf south

don't let hyperbole & exaggeration for profit play on yr mind

mental health is also a value & it should not be destroyed for cheap sensationalism or to plesae those for whom no disaster is already big enough without their "help"

thanks to hysterics making excessive claims homeowner's insurance now has mold exclusion & ppl w. real probs. are screwed

so i do not much appreciate mold hysteria

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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:28 AM
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18. Funny. That's the same take the insurance industry had when they spent
huge chunks of money trying to get out of coverage. But here's a couple of things for you to chew on:

1) At my day at the mold forum, the stories were always the same: "I got sick. I didn't know what it was. Then I heard about stachy." Funny how you can develop "mold hysteria" before you can even hear about the mold. Guess we were all psychic, huh? (Oh, and before you ask, the symptoms pretty much ran along the same lines, too.)

2) Pets died. Many from "mysterious kidney failure". Now I don't know about your pets, but the ones I've been around don't tend succumb to hysteria after watching a report on TV.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:30 AM
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19. well my pets are fine
so please don't start stirring up trouble

if you WANT your home checked for mold, FINE

but PLEASE don't call for some damn procedure we've gotta jump thru before we can return to our damn homes

let me ask you something

are YOU homeless right now?

if not at least have some respect for the fact that i am & i don't feel you should be working to keep me out of my home & in another damn line

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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:37 AM
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21. Please read my post #16. YES, I was homeless. YES, I was damned near
Edited on Wed Sep-14-05 11:39 AM by chalky
bankrupt.

Go back to your home. I'm not stopping you.

But if Stachy calls, don't expect help from your insurance agency.
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:40 AM
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28. There have also been a lot of scams going on with mold
Mainly contractors or someone scamming people into spending thousands for remodleing for "mold" they don't actually have. That has happened here in S. Texas and probably other places as well. People are so gullible and "toxic mold" hysteria has gotten way out of hand.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 08:34 AM
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3. This is important...
:kick:
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 08:38 AM
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4. I'll be going through that soon
A house I've had on the market for over a year, in Ohio, blew a water line last month. The real estate agent called me and said the house is full of water. It probably ran for 8 days before it was discovered. It happened in the upstairs bathroom. I live in Florida, and flew up the next day. Mold everywhere. With the moisture, and heat from a record heat wave, the house looked like a petri dish.

I'm waiting to settle with the insurance company for the water damage before I proceed (the policy has a mold exclusion).
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fed-up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 10:17 AM
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5. What a nightmare!-kicked and nominated eom
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pepperlove Donating Member (345 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 10:19 AM
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6. There is growing mold
in the oval office of the white house... it's called Shrub-Crud.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 10:34 AM
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7. Living in Florida that is the first thing I thought of when I saw the
water pouring through the levees. It is going to be bad. Really and truly horrific.

I am so sorry to hear your story. What an absolute nightmare!
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movie_girl99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 10:46 AM
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8. can i ask you something
was there any type of odor involved?
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LEW Donating Member (809 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 10:58 AM
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10. yes, movie_girl99
If you can smell it you have mold. At first I thought the smell was from smoking in the house. But I was constantly liting candles and opening windows to air out the house. I didn't realize what the smell was until I learned about mold. Even if you can't see it, you can smell it.
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movie_girl99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:02 AM
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12. so it smells like smoke
there is a smell in my bathroom where i think there may be a lot of wood rot. It smells somewhat like sewage but also like sulfur.
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LEW Donating Member (809 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 02:46 PM
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24. not really like smoke movie_girl 99
I just thought that was causing the odor. No the smell is more a musty, sulfer kind of smell that you have described.
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 10:59 AM
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11. I had to deal with this problem last summer...
I was away for a week and a storm blew the roof off the back part of my house. It literally rained into the house for 5 days before I returned home. Had to rip out all the carpet, sheetrock and insulation...it was full of mold! After getting the walls down to the bare frame I sprayed and scrubbed the wood with a commercial mold killer (really nasty stuff) and then put everything back together. About $7500 worth of materials. The cost of doing this for an entire house would be incredible, especially if you had to contract it out...Take note though, the insurance company's have wized up, they no longer cover mold removal...it's written into the coverage and most people (like me) don't realize it. Professional mold removal is the biggest cost in the whole project.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:02 AM
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13. oh brother
i am sure you are very well intentioned but please don't insist that i pay some damn bureaucrat or some damn mold specialist before i can get back in my home

just how many yrs would you like me to be homeless?

if you are sensitive to mold & mildew don't live on the gulf coast because you are never going to be mold free

it ain't the heat it's the humidity

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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:05 AM
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14. I lived in a very damp climate and the mold *UGH*
There was a lot of mold in this place. If you kept the fire going all winter, it seemed to hold it back a bit. However, when they came to repair the roof, there were mushrooms growing underneath it! Mushrooms! ACk!

Towards the end of my times living in this place I kept developing this huge red rash around my torso and the doctors decided it was some sort of fungus. It was probably from living in that place.

Same deal w/the water - the filters for the water filtering system came out of it GREEN. *eek*

Glad I don't live there anymore! Not healthy AT ALL!

P.S. The scum lord that owned this "complex" could have cared less btw of course - too busy playing the old stock market and going on vacations and driving his Mercedes.

:kick:

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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:10 AM
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16. Your mold story sounds a lot like mine, but there are a few exceptions
Edited on Wed Sep-14-05 11:17 AM by chalky
I also lost one of my cats to "mysterious kidney failure" during my mold crisis. (I later went to a mold forum here in Texas and found that I wasn't the only one who'd had a pet die from "mysterious kidney failure" after exposure to Stachy.)

Also, after months of doctors visits and being told I was crazy, it was a CHIROPRACTOR of all things that finally asked the right questions--when did I feel my worst during a day (early in the morning, after I'd spent the night in my house), and when did I feel my worst during the week (Monday morning--after I'd spent a weekend in my house). Thank God I didn't have to go through an HMO and could take my health into my own hands--if it had been up to MDs and HMOs alone, I would have been dead.

Another difference--it was my insurance company that came in, tested, and discovered the mold. (Or my insurance claim dude started the inquiry after I told him my suspicions. Oddly enough, he was quickly taken off the case and replaced by a real company guy. I never heard from this first guy ever again.) This same insurance company later fought my claim tooth and nail, lied about the dangers of mold, and then put up big $$$ into a fight to get mold recovery removed from coverage all over the state.

And one more thing--during the fight with my insurance company the conditions at my house had deteriorated rapidly (personally I believe it was due to the partial remediation my insurance company did, which exposed the interior of my house to the mold that had once been confined to the walls). Every remaining wall in my house was fuzzy with mold in the end. I ended up selling my house at a loss to a nice couple who specialized in rehabilitating houses. (Six months after selling my home to them they invited me over to see the remodel. They did a fantastic job. I cried all the way home from the viewing.)

"Mold!" was the first thing that came to my mind after the hurricane for obvious reasons. Because of it, I lost my home, my health, and a dear pet. It's been five years and I'm still putting my life back together after my encounter.

And NOW...now that the insurance industry has successfully eradicated mold as a danger, at least to their BOTTOM LINE, doctors are finally stepping up to the plate and saying, "Hey, you know? I guess this stuff is kinda dangerous!" To me, their timing is suspect to say the least.

On a tangent note--I hear the insurance industry has found yet another way around paying up to the victims of Katrina in New Orleans. Didn't you hear the latest? Why, the damage wasn't caused by a hurricane, dear--the damage was caused by flooding when the floodwall failed. And, oh, so sorry...looks like you don't have flood insurance.

Ain't that a kick in the head?
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:12 AM
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17. I just love Dr. Wasserman
Had an opportunity to work with him at Childrens and he knows his stuff. He is such a powerful figure and is revered by staff and patients alike, so when my granddaughter had problems and we were told she needed an allergist, no doubts where she was going. He is the gold standard.
My granddaughter was EXTREMELY sick the first year of her life.
Bad allergies, she had severe respiratory flu twice, and was on nebulized breathing treaments an average of 2 weeks out of each month. She was on heavy medications. Stayed on antibiotics.
We had all been just a little sick since we lived there and had blamed it on allergies and asthma.
But when the baby was so sick...started looking around.
Everything had a very light--almost unnoticeable--film on it.
Took the airconditioners apart and there was 2 inches of black mold on the inside towards the back.
We had also got a new kitty. He had a pink nose. My other two cats have gray noses.
The new kitty had black stuff on his nose constantly.
The cats all started sneezing. The baby stayed sick and on breathing treatments.
A friend of mine suggested at first that it may have been a house that was used to cook meth in and wasn't cleaned, but after we found the mold, we knew what it was. Thank God it was only a rental.
I told the owner about it--he did nothing, but I did notice that the people who moved in it after we did only stayed a couple months.
So...we found another house.
While we lived in the moldy house...we tore the carpets out, replaced all the flooring, cleaned and painted the walls, and didn't find any evidence of mold in the new house. Threw out just about everything that couldn't be cleaned with bleach.
My granddaughter has not even been to the pediatrician since her 2 yr. checkup back in February...and a few months before that.
She hasn't needed breathing treatments. We were able to take her off of her Singulair and Zyrtec.
She is completely medication free.
So if you have people in your house that stay sick...you need to have it checked out.
It's probably mold. Thanks for bringing attention to this.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:34 AM
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20. if you have ppl in yr home who stay sick
yes you need to have it checked out

but 99 percent of the time it will be a cat allergy, or a dust mite allergy

see my other post

just how many years would you like me to remain homeless while you put up another hoop i have to jump thru to get my home declared safe for human habitation again?

this kind of thing is NOT helpful & does not need to be pushed forward at a time when so many of us are displaced

if you want yr home checked for mold, check it

but for the love of god don't be putting another roadblock in my path to keep me homeless

think people
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:49 AM
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22. When you live in the gulf states
There is mold. There are ways to control it.
I HIGHLY doubt that any home in these states don't have some mold.
However, that is why we tore out carpets, painted walls, and replaced floors. If nothing else, this allowed me to be able to keep the surfaces clean.
Controlling what you cannot kill.
I posted here once about how to help control bacteria and germs and was skewered because bacteria is good, etc.
But suffice to say, I clean with alot of bleach products, we wash our hands frequently, and take our shoes off outside and change our clothes when we come in from being outside.
I personally don't think it can be totally eradicated, but it is a matter of diligence.
People need to know about it so they can control it.
If a house is known to have mold...that should be disclosed on a sale.
It shouldn't prevent a sale, but it allows a consumer to know what they are getting into. Buyer beware.
However...I do feel that rentals should be held to a higher standard than sales. They should have to inspected periodically and a report made to the consumer upon request, with documentation of what they did to eradicate or treat the problem--even it was nothing.
I urge education.




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LEW Donating Member (809 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 02:49 PM
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25. You are right Horse with no Name
Mold is everywhere and you cannot ever get rid of all mold spores. But when there is moisture and mold growth the concentration becomes very high and that is when people get sick. Not everyone reacts the same to mold exposure.

Education is the key and why I posted this thread.
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:57 AM
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23. GO BACK TO YOUR HOME. WE'RE NOT EVEN TRYING TO STOP YOU.
And God knows the insurance industry will jump through hoops to get you back into your home without a peep about mold dangers.

Mold sensitivity is not rampant among the population. You might very well be immune to the dangers. And it's one specific type of mold that seems to cause the most problems (Stachybotrys. Look it up.)

We're trying to make you aware of future dangers. If those warnings don't apply to you, that's fine. But don't spend your energy trying to block everyone from the knowledge just because you've jumped to the conclusion that we want to keep you away from your home.

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expatriate Donating Member (853 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 08:20 AM
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32. I just re-read the OP
and I don't see where anyone is calling for a roadblock to be put in your path or a hoop for you to jump through. The OP did not say that there should be a check of all homes in New Orleans before people can move back there. She has brought up the fact that the flooding may cause mold infestation of homes beyond that which is considered normal, and that some people might have problems from that.

If you do have allergies to mold, it can be a problem. If you don't, you're home free.

Nobody is trying to keep you homeless. Nobody is calling for a standard that will keep you homeless. I'm very sorry that you're homeless, and hope that you can go home very soon.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 03:01 PM
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26. Ed McMahon Settles Toxic Mold Lawsuit for $7M (back in 03)
Former "Tonight Show" sidekick Ed McMahon obtained a $7 million settlement from several companies he sued for allowing toxic mold to infest his Los Angeles home, making his family sick and killing his dog, a national mold litigation magazine reported.

McMahon ended the lawsuit with all but one of the companies in confidential settlements.

But earlier this week, a Los Angeles Superior Court judge ordered the settlement amounts made public.

Travelers and American Equity Insurance companies and other related insurance entities settled with McMahon for more than $5 million, according to the hearing transcript. Four mold cleanup firms and two insurance adjusters paid the rest of the sum. http://www.legalnewswatch.com/news_197.html
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:15 AM
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27. time to kick this important thread...
and nominated for the education and "buyer beware"
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LEW Donating Member (809 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:59 AM
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29. I wish I would have had some kind of insurance
to cover this. Because it was caused by the former owner's fraud and not a "sudden water accident" (like a washing machine running over) no help at all. If we had tried to submit a claim the insurance would have denied the claim and then probably cancelled us as soon as they could. No other insurance would then insure us because of a previous mold problem and we would have had to buy super expensive state insurance.

At least we had the equity in our home for the materials and could do the remediation ourselves. Otherwise, I don't know what we would have done. A lot of other people have no resources at all. I wish Mr. McMahon would use that insurance settlement to set up a fund help other people.

Please, please do not let moisture problems go on and on, you are creating a huge problem for yourselves or other people.
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expatriate Donating Member (853 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 08:12 AM
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30. How horrible!
I lived in a house, that unbeknownst to me, was riddled with black mold. During my five years there, I developed what was first chronic bronchitis, then asthma, then chronic pneumonia (mechanical). Thankfully, when it was finally found what was causing my illness, I was able to move right away, because it was a rental.

I have also gotten very sick from sleeping on a used mattress that turned out to have mold growing in it. Endless hacking and coughing, shortness of breath.

Thankfully, now I live in a dry climate, and don't encounter mold very often.

I'm glad that you have made the decision to get rid of that house - with that kind of mold infestation, there is no way you'll ever be sure you're completely free of it.

And yes, this is going to be a huge problem for people moving back to the flooded portions of New Orleans. Mold is a problem there anytime, but now it's going to be really bad.
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buzzsaw_23 Donating Member (631 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 08:16 AM
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31. Caused us to leave our place in the country
the problem was so deeply rooted and systemic the solutions were too toxic and costly. We left.
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