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MattNC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 05:36 PM
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Time to drop out, Gephardt
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 05:37 PM
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1. huh?
Edited on Mon Jul-07-03 05:40 PM by newsguyatl
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drudge has the story linked incorrectly
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 05:40 PM
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2. ditto
Huh?

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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 05:41 PM
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3. that drudge report didn't say much but...
Why should Gep drop out? he is either tied or leading in Iowa and in good position in several early caucus/primary states such as Michigan, Oklahoma, and his own Missouri. With organized labor support he can still be quite formdiable. I say this as a Dean supporter.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 05:42 PM
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5. Well I saw the story
he could only 5 people to confirm they would attend his meetup in Washingtond DC so it was canceled.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 05:49 PM
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8. Too early yet, to respond by dropping out...
The general public is not tuned in yet.

Gephardt has alot of people "meeting up" for him in the hundreds of thousands. they're called "union members. Basically, many of the internet folks who are organizing right now, are merely following what unions have done for years. Organize and get your vote out.
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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 05:42 PM
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4. Wow
If you can't get 5 people in Washington DC to attend one of your meetings, you are in sorry shape. I mean, how long has he been in Congress? You'd think he could at least get 5 of his staffers to show up... <snicker>
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 05:44 PM
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6. Why should he?
Gephardt has put on the table a serious and very exciting health care proposal, second only to Kucinich's.

Gephardt also has a long and distinguished record of support of working men and women, including his vote against NAFTA.

Gephardt's weak record as House leader, and his shameful role on events leading to the Iraq war resolution, while it may seem to disqualify him for consideration for the Presidential nomination, it must be balanced against the entirety of his record.

I am perfectly willing to give Gephardt another chance, and I may vote for him if all the antiwar candidates falter before the Convention.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 09:08 PM
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11. I'd vote for Gephardt long before I'd vote for Dean
Kucinich and Gephardt are so far the only two that I can trust. Gephardt hasn't been a good House minority leader, but I'm willing to overlook that for the fact he is 100% right on on economic issues.

His vote against NAFTA will be remembered by A LOT of Americans, most of which have never heard nor care about DU.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 09:10 PM
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12. you must be a labor dem
Hes pretty good socially and very good economically IMO I like Kucinich better but Gephardt although he supported the war has my respect.
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 04:53 PM
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19. Will you still vote Gephardt since he stabbed us in the back on OT?
"I'd vote for Gephardt long before I'd vote for Dean"
Posted by WhoCountsTheVotes
Kucinich and Gephardt are so far the only two that I can trust. Gephardt hasn't been a good House minority leader, but I'm willing to overlook that for the fact he is 100% right on on economic issues.

His vote against NAFTA will be remembered by A LOT of Americans, most of which have never heard nor care about DU."

The above was written by WhoCountsTheVotes on July 8.

Given that Tricky Dicky Gephardt was a no show on July 10 when the House of "representatives" voted against over riding the proposed rules changes on who is eligible to be paid overtime, can you still support him? The proposal won by a margin of three votes. SEVEN DEMOCRATS (you know that alleged party of the working person?) failed to vote.

I think more than his vote on NAFTA (a Repuke policy that was shoved through Congress by that DLC Dem, Bill Clinton) the lack of a vote on overtime pay will resonate with working people more. I know it resonates with me but then again I don't have a union boss telling me how to vote. I am just one of the majority of Americans who do not belong to a union and will probably lose overtime pay once the new rules go into effect.

Maybe the overtime issue does not resonate with union workers because they operate under a contract. Dare I say that when contract renewal time comes up overtime is sure to be an issue. Once the right to overtime pay is lost it will be difficult to regain it.




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inthecorneroverhere Donating Member (842 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 09:46 PM
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15. check!
Agreed! I think Gephardt should be given a chance. There are a couple of candidates I like a little better than Gephardt, but Gephardt has two major strengths:

1) support from labor
2) he's from a border state
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 09:49 PM
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16. Don't forget his health care plan
which may have a better chance of passing Congress than Kucinich's, which I think is the better plan of all the candidates, but then, I am a socialist!

Gephardt also gets kudos for his vote against NAFTA, as Dennis does.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 05:49 PM
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7. The horror! Gephardt's supporters don't use Meetup!
He shouldn't just drop out, he should jump from a window! And than throw his computer after himself! :argh:
Man, oh, man, Drudge sure breaks them news, non?
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lkinsale Donating Member (662 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 06:26 PM
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9. Drudge must be clueless on how meetup.com works
Maybe they don't realize that there's a meeting automatically scheduled once a month everywhere for every single thing in the universe.

So some get cancelled cause nobody comes. Like most of Bush's birthday parties. ;)
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 06:34 PM
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10. The remarkable thing...
...is that Drudge is so desperate to flail and gnash his teeth that he considers this an "alert-worthy" story...
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inthecorneroverhere Donating Member (842 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 09:11 PM
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13. Don't say that, yet
Gephardt has at least put a health care proposal on the table.

I find him to be a viable candidate who, at the moment, should focus on fundraising and speeches, ahead of the primary season.
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JackSwift Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 09:29 PM
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14. Only the candidate should decide when to drop out
We are all good Democrats, and we shouldn't bad mouth those Dems we do not support, including Lieberman and Sharpton. It is very early in the contest, and they will need time to develop themselves and their messages, and to test out their ideas and modes of presenting them. There are still a couple of months for a late candidate to join in.

We should let every candidate know that we expect to support the eventual nominee, whomever it is, and that we will not support someone who tries to destroy the party.
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 09:55 PM
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17. the gops are freaking out ...
and trying their level best to wound each Democratic candidate in any way they can.

Think about this ... they are all part of the gop's grand wurlitzer ... so what does it mean?

Can you hear the song it is playing?
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 10:00 PM
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18. Gebhardt
While I might find myself agreeing with Mr. Gebhardt on a lot of the issues, it is very hard for me to get excited about the possiblity of him getting the nomination.

The reason is that I can't see him taking on Bush* in the rhetorical arena. To wrest the presidency from Bush* is going to require some passionate words and denunciations. I've never seen Gebhardt deliver them. Maybe he can, or maybe he cannot. But the race will not be won on just the issues, of that I'm certain.
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 05:07 PM
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20. Ummmm.... that's an article on Hastert
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whoYaCallinAlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 05:09 PM
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21. Too early . . . Gephardt keeps the focus on working families.
It's not a problem having him in this election. Keeps everybody honest about workers and jobs.
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