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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 10:56 AM
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How come China was able to evacuate 790,000 of their people resulting in
only three deaths, yet I hear people saying that it isn't possible to evacuate 100% of the people in the Gulf States facing a Cat 5 storm with 72 hours prior notice? I've heard callers this morning on Jerry Springer saying that exact same thing? I say given the example of the Chinese Gov, this is a HUGH111 cop out by people not willing to admit that their/our Gov. failed in getting their citizens out of harm's way! So I say to these callers, that you need to realize, given your rationale, that you are on your own now!
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marbuc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 10:58 AM
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1. Because China has a strong centralized government.
unlike us.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 10:59 AM
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2. I live in earthquake territory.
We have been planning the past five years because we know we're on our own. We live in a blue state, a blue county and a blue city. The shrub cound't care less about my well being or that of my family.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:03 AM
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4. I live about 3 hrs from the gulf coast in Texas. San Antonio has
flooded before from storms on the gulf. Not completely flooded but it has the potential of doing so. I am putting together a plan to get out. I am not going to be shuffled off the Alamodome!
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:40 AM
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31. I was raised in S.A.
Do they still hand out free hurricane tracking maps at the HEB in June?

Tracking hurricanes was a hobby for me growing up because we always knew if one hit the Texas gulf, we'd better get out (flooding). Especially if it hit Corpus or Victoria.
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pippin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:03 AM
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5. the blue states should secede
Since we don't have a central government that's interested in taking care of its people.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:23 AM
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21. It's apparent that this Gov. isn't interested in taking care of anyone!
Well except for the haves and haves mores.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:00 AM
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3. Because they aren't trying to drown their govt
in a bathtub.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:04 AM
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6. How sad that we are, at the expense of our people.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:08 AM
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7. Cuba, too.
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/090305Y.shtml

I wish we cared as much about our people as do the leaders of these "godless communist" countries.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:11 AM
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11. And Cuba even saves the pets!
:bounce: I wish that also SmokingJacket! I really do!
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:09 AM
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8. China cares about it's people nt
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:12 AM
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12. For the record I didn't hear about China's evac efforts on Springer
Sheesh!
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:14 AM
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15. What the hell are you yapping about?
Your post makes no sense, idiot.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:19 AM
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17. Thank you! I didn't even read all of it! Why bother with the kool aid
lappers! :eyes:
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:25 AM
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22. Time to WAKE UP!
The news wasn't from Jerry Springer.

If you like, there are NUMEROUS news sources which back this up:
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=china+evacuates&btnG=Search+News
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Village Idiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:25 AM
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23. Castro managed to do it properly during Hurricane Ivan...
1.3 million evacuated in 48 hours WITHOUT A SINGLE CASUALTY.

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it...

It's probably a lot better for you than the skag you have obviously been indulging in lately...
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lateo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:10 AM
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10. Here is the link to that event.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:13 AM
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13. Why can the tiny resource starved nation of Cuba
survive cat 5 hurricanes with no deaths.

Because since Reagan, the prevailing political theory in this country has been 'each man for himself'

You could go back in history and find monarchies more committed to populist governance than the supposed republicans and democrats who dominate today's political discourse.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:18 AM
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16. I was just trying to make a point to those who seem to think that
the Fed Gov isn't able to evacuate 100% of it's citizens in the event of a natural disaster! I know that's not true but these callers were trying to defend bushco lack of response.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:22 AM
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20. The bigger the lie...
The idea that the wealthiest country in the world couldnt evacuate a city in the year 2005 is so outrageous its bound to appeal to Bush supporters.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:30 AM
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27. One would think that at some point in time these rabid bush zombies
would have a light bulb moment with regard to their idiotic support of their president.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 01:34 PM
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32. I'm NOT taking that to the bank.
:evilgrin:
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:13 AM
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14. Government that values life (more than ours anyway)?
Is there any way to avoid this conclusion?
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:20 AM
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18. Sadly no there isn't
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Village Idiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:21 AM
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19. For the same reason Castro evac'ed 1.3 million in 48 hrs...
He had A PLAN.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:26 AM
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24. Wow what a concept!
:think: China puts bush to shame!
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:28 AM
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25. This was posted the other day here on DU. Someone
suggested Shrub call China and find out how they did it!

In all fairness, it was also posted by someone who was from China, that when the Chinese Gov't tells you to do something, you don't ask why, or when, you just DO IT! I believe that is the main difference!
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ObaMania Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:28 AM
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26. I can only quote what an idiot FReep from KS said to me a week ago..
.. when I posed the same question:

"Yeah, but in China if you say that you aren't going, they just put a bullet in your head and call you a tsunami "victim."

:rofl: Can't argue with that, huh? :rofl:
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:31 AM
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29. LOL well true or not, at least they got their people to safety!
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:30 AM
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28. Because Bush isn't their 'leader' and isn't there to fuck it up?
Just a guess.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:37 AM
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30. there apears 2 B an organized effort,
out of some RW phone bank operation, 2 call all talk radio this AM blaming LA Gov & NO Mayor - it is THE message they want out there 2day. It might B interesting 2 hear reports from across the US as to how often this is repeated 2day. Thom Hartmann just said someone called jhis Portland morning show from 'Virginia' this morning blaming gov & mayor.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 02:21 PM
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33. Perhaps because they're a major world power
that isn't in decline?
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