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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 02:30 PM
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Is there an answer for why ........."ALL AID WAS REFUSED"....Anybody?
You have all read the stories:

Red Cross not allowed into NO

Chicago aid refused


Country aid refused

Police and Doctors stopped at stateline

Boats stopped in the water...

What the hell happened..? Could you imagine this refusal on 911 ?

What happened and why?
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 02:30 PM
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1. Planned chaos.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 02:32 PM
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2. KBR and Bechtel
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 02:32 PM by mitchtv
have a contract for that.Pat Robertson , too.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 02:33 PM
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3. The only one I heard anything about was the aid from other Countries.
Condi said they were assessing the situation to see when would be the right time and place.

HOWEVER, on another post here on DU, I read that the US was hesitant because they would them owe these countries favors.

I just don't understand either!!!!!
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 02:33 PM
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4. This post is the only thing that makes sense of all those refusals, imo
Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Sat Sep-03-05 10:58 AM
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OMG. A group in Florida wanted to volunteer to bring in 500 air boats
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 11:42 AM by Pirate Smile

to help in the rescue efforts.

FEMA "emphatically" refused. They said they had to CONTRACT OUT for that and couldn't use volunteers.

Republican Rep. Mark Foley just said that on MSNBC.

UN.F#$KING.BELIEVABLE!

edit to add - After this segment, they had on one of their military experts that MSNBC has on all the time.

He said (paraphrasing)- This is a question of leadership. If the regulations in the beaurocracy required things that were untenable in the crisis, then a leader sees it and does what you need to to make it possible. Lincoln suspended Habeas Corpus during the Civil War, if there was a question about posse comitatus or something like that, a leader would be able to determine when the rules or laws are more harmful to the people, the reasons why the law is in place doesn't fit and a leader will suspend it or do what they have to do. This was a failure of leadership.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4608106
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 02:34 PM
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5. It's called the "Only our families and friends can make money" plan..
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 02:34 PM
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6. It's called the "Only our families and friends can make money" plan..
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 02:35 PM
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7. They are searching the survivors before they get
on the buses, etc. Searching them for new items, they may not be theirs, taking their alcohol and cigarettes. WTF everyone, these people have been through the mill and they are going to make them like they are criminals.
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classof56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 02:40 PM
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9. And, I just read on another thread, not letting them take their pets.
What a galactically IDIOTIC way to "rescue" people who have just been through hell and have nothing left, not even their dignity. SHAME on Bush and all his evil minions!

Tired Old Cynic
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Neocondriac Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 02:38 PM
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8. They had to figure ways to make a buck .....
....They want to make sure that the essential players Halliburton, Carlyle and Exxo/mobil got there just contracts first.Remember, it's corporations first and the rest of us annoying ,tax paying ,future refugees last.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 02:47 PM
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10. We need to carefully catalogue every instance of this
Offered aid that has been refused and declined is absolutely inexcusable.
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RandiFan1290 Donating Member (721 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 02:58 PM
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11. They are going to portray
that there was absolutely no help available until * arrived.
Fox will lead the way with the Shep and Geraldo footage.



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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 03:01 PM
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12. GENOCIDE.
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spuddonna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 03:04 PM
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13. One word: SIEGE
Starve them out. Why? No clue... How could they? No clue...

Last night, Fox News documented that people couldn't leave. Not on foot, at least. People who arrived at the crosspoint to get out of New Orleans were told to 'go back in'. (Crooksandliars.com - look for video of Geraldo and Shep Smith)

Red Cross was told we don't want you to go in because "The state Homeland Security Department had requested--and continues to request--that the American Red Cross not come back into New Orleans following the hurricane. Our presence would keep people from evacuating and encourage others to come into the city." (Yeah, cause they'd be 'drawn to the food and water' - gee I wonder why that would happen? :sarcasm: (link - http://www.redcross.org/faq/0,1096,0_682_4524,00.html)

No food or water in, no one allowed out...

Anyone have a better answer?
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 03:34 PM
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14. THIS is the basis for the COUP that will install dictator bush???
that is all i can believe anymore-

this goes beyond human comprehension.

i hate the nation that calls itself America-
i love the people who are victims of the oppression of the powerful,wealthy and well-connceted evil assholes.

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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:24 PM
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15. it is soo hard to figure out without going to the "worst thoughts"
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:29 PM
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16. MSM only had one story that I saw
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 06:30 PM by leftchick
a convoy of sheriffs from VA stopped and turned back. They claimed the LA State Police would noy give them the go ahead. I wish your laudry list would make and folks would figure out this is LIHOP!
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