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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 03:23 AM
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A symbolic picture


Guns and children.
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TheFriar Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 03:25 AM
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1. I hate their vision of America
Which this photo accurately depicts.
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LunaSea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 03:26 AM
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2. Where did you find this?
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 03:28 AM
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6. Norwegian news
http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/2005/09/03/442244.html

Headline: Children dies on their way to be rescued.

A bit tabloid, perhaps.
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 03:48 AM
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10. Heja Norge
Ja, vi elsker...
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 04:20 AM
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13. And...
Vive la France! :D
Good to see some French people here too :toast: <----- should be red wine, of course :P
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 03:26 AM
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3. .
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 03:27 AM by MercutioATC
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LunaSea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 03:28 AM
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5. No its reflected light
see the bright bag?
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 04:38 AM
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14. I don't think so...
I deleted my post questioning it when I realized the thread was entitled "A symbolic picture".

That's what it is...symbolic. I don't think it's real.
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LunaSea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 05:04 AM
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15. Not a single pixel to suggest its fake.
I took a real close look at it. It is quite symbolic, but thats what makes it a great photo.
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 05:26 AM
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17. Hmmm... I don't agree
The paper that used it has cited an AP photographer as source, Richard Alan Hannon, AP/Scanpix.

Scanpix is a major picture agency, and would have ditched the photo as a news photo if they suspected any inventive photoshopping.

But I agree that you never know these days ;-)
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Joebert Donating Member (726 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 03:28 AM
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7. I see what you're looking at...
But based on the other guys in the picture in camoflague, I'm sure there are guns all over the place to keep the show of force, to keep the people civil.

That said, with our without the guard or cops, it seems to me that 20,000 people have been civil while waiting for buses at the Superdome, so I hate to see the guns out so obviously.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 03:28 AM
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4. I talked with Merh tonight!
Peace.
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 03:29 AM
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8. How is she doing?
I have been thinking a lot about her, fooj. Please send her my best wishes and tell her I'll help her the best I can, will you? :-)
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 03:38 AM
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9. Totally bizarre coincidence
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 03:39 AM by Canuckistanian
I just posted a message about a a small girl and an M16 rifle as an example of the most incongruous thing I could think of at the time.

Spooky.

Hello, America.
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Pepper32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 04:06 AM
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11. They couldn't pick them up, why are they walking in that filthy water?
This is unbelievable. I can't believe they have that huge gun pointed at them. This is insane!

I don't know, perhaps I expect too much. Compassion or caring is so pre 2000.
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 04:18 AM
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12. Well, to be fair
The gun is probably there to protect these children from violence, not to coerce them. I don't blame the troops/police, but the system that has done so much to eradicate the trust people have towards them.

And look at the cute kids - I'm just happy they did survive it all. Hopefully, they're getting the help and care they need now :-)
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LunaSea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 05:07 AM
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16. I agree, nothing threatening.
Just the work of a pro photographer.
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 08:27 AM
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24. Very pro
If the picture had been photo-shopped, it wouldn't be a good picture at all, don't you agree?

The pic in your sig line is photoshopped AND very good, though ;-)
It tells so much of what the Am. people feel now.
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davepc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:36 AM
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22. the gun isn't POINTED at the children
Its aimed at the ground, don't let the perspective deceive you into seeing things that aren't there.
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newswolf56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 05:52 AM
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18. Interesting many of the people shown in the AP photographs...
published by the Norwegian newspaper are Caucasian. These are in fact more Caucasian faces than I've seen in five days of U.S. media coverage. Could it be that the U.S. corporate media is showing only black folks in the hope it will make (white/racist) U.S. citizens feel less empathy with the victims?

Before seeing what I have seen broadcast during the last five days, I would never have even imagined such a thing. But after the obvious genocide-by-neglect and genocide-by-indifference we have witnessed since Katrina struck -- and now with so much of the media obviously again pandering to the government -- there is truly no atrocity that is unthinkable anymore.
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 08:21 AM
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23. I'm not sure
My impression is that there is a mix of colour. Remember that to Norwegians, the US is a mixed culture of many shades - the African-American culture is very visible in our public space. I think that's one of the reasons we like the US so much ;-)

Here's another pic from same paper:



http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/2005/09/03/442265.html

The news media has really picked up on this situation now.
Another proof that many European journalists bases their work on the reporting by their American journalist contacts, not by digging and finding out the stories for themselves.

Or rather, they do the digging, but won't report the news over here unless American journalists has 'vetted' the story by reporting on it in the US public space.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:08 AM
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19. Looks like national guard maintiaing orderly evacs
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 06:08 AM by aikoaiko
I'm glad the troops are their to protect these children.

Too bad this picture wasn't taken before Katrina hit.




ok, I'll go back to the gungeon now.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:16 AM
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20. here's the symbol of your new Homeland Security facism at it's finest....
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 08:38 AM
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25. That's also a very symbolic picture
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 08:39 AM by mogster
It is a fantastic shot if you see it from a news perspective. It's the kind of pic that makes you scratch your head and wonder: 'This looks like a bad Hollywood B-movie. Do they WANT to look that bad?'

This pic was instantly photoshopped to read 'Police State Tactical Unit'. That was funny.



This administration always had a image-problem ;-)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4559189&mesg_id=4559434

On edit: added DU-link
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:24 AM
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21. The Bush legacy...
We live in a third world country and the US Supreme Court did that to the country in 2000 when they "PLAYED POLITICS"! The blood is on their hands...All of it!
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