Neil Boortz to read post from DU

[Jeanette in FL]

just went to a commercial break and led off to the commercial by saying "If you want to know what rank and file democrats really feel about Hurricane Katrina all you have to do is log on to DemocraticUnderground. He then said that there were posts here that said that George Bush blew up the levy's so that he would be able to grandstand while doing his rescue thing. He said wait til you hear some of these nutcases. Will keep you posted.

[Mizmoon]

1. hey, we're famous

check us out :evilgrin:

[RevCheesehead]

2. who the fuck is Neil Boortz?

[KittyWampus]

12. i'm embarrased to have to ask same thing

:blush:

[1932]

40. He's a guy who posts insane things on DU that he uses in his radio show

to pretend that liberals are insane.

:)

[Lone_Star_Dem]

64. Oh that Neil Boortz!

Yours was a great answer, BTW. :hi:

[mnmoderatedem]

55. a republican on drugs

syndicated radio host based out of Atlanta who's technically a libertarian. Favors really every GOP position except legalizing drugs...

[ck4829]

3. Neal Boortz, you're a Nazi.

I hope that gets your attention.

http://mediamatters.org/archives/search.html?topic=Neal%20Boortz

[w13rd0]

4. We don't care what that opportunist fuckwad Boortz thinks...

...he's a lying asshat and I hope he chokes on his own bile and vim.

[Lex]

5. A republican fascist with an AM radio show. nt

[RebelOne]

15. He is not Republican. He claims to be a Libertarian.

[DrDan]

the libertarians want nothing to do with this fool

[zanne]

43. Just as bad, IMHO. n/t

[zanne]

44. Just as bad, IMHO. n/t

[Caution]

6. And another example of how the nutcases at DU give Democrats a bad name

and no I don't care that Boortz is a complete scumbag himself.

Sooner or later these lunatic-fringe posts have got to stop.

[timber84]

16. was it a serious post?

that- he is referring to or a sarcastic post?

[MostlyLurks]

46. It doesn't matter

The dynamics of a blog or bulletin board such as DU make all posts "equal" - it doesn't matter whether I'm posting a logical deconstruction of policy or posting my theory that the 9/11 airliners were missiles with fake wings attached or whatever. Since each post gets its own space, they are equally "valid". It's not like at a newspaper where some editorial board can decide what gets above the fold, what goes to page 10 and what gets entirely excised.

That's both the beauty and danger of the blog phenomenon.

Mostly

[Walt Starr]

18. Most of the time, it's conservatives trying to make us look nuts n/t

[MostlyLurks]

50. I disagree.

Not to start a flame war, but there are people on DU who are earnestly liberal but also earnestly...misguided shall we say? And I'm not talking, necessarily, about tin-foil hatters.

Every community has those people that it wishes would be silent, especially in times of high drama. I'm sure (shocking to think, worse to write) that there are Freepers who shudder every time some Biblecase whackjob says that this or that disaster was retribution from the great sky being for abortion or gay people or feminism or whatever.

The difference is that Freepers never have to worry about their fringe element representing all of them in the media.

Peace.

Mostly

[Walt Starr]

51. You obviously have not been here long enough

You might learn, if you stick around. I'd estimate 95% of the wacko threads are board disruptors. There are weird assed people who have an entire message board dedicated to the proposition of being "moles" here, appearing liberal and then coming out with the totally wacked out shit to make us look bad.

Giving a link to that site is forbidden on DU because that site actively seeks to disrupt this site.

[MostlyLurks]

52. My name is not ironic.

Despite my low post count, I have been reading DU regularly for well over three years. I truly do lurk and only post when the mood strikes.

I will concede that there are purposeful disruptors who intentionally plant "DU bombs". That's a proven fact, what with some of those who came out on election day. And, not having heard Boortz, I don't know which posts he elects to read - clearly he might be picking people with low post count and suspicious motives.

But in the larger sense of things, I simply disagree with the idea that most (95%) of the really questionable posts are bombs. I don't think it's debatable that there's a multifacted aspect to the people on DU.

Some are labor liberals, some are environmental liberals, some are social liberals. But there are also communists, anarchists, knee-jerk anti-traders/anti-capitalists, etc. Anytime you have that level of diversity, there's going to be a diversity of opinion that will run that gamut from reasonable to extreme to completely crazy. In a community as active as DU, there will always be well-inteded crack pot posts, whether they be regrettable rants or consistent vocalizations of untenable opinions. That, as I said upthread, is both the beauty and danger of the blog phenomenon.

Essentially, if you believe 95% of the bomb-posts are spurious or planted, then don't you also have to believe something similar about the really egregious crap over at the "other site"? Why not? Why does DU get the benefit of the doubt ("the crackpots here are not really our crackpots") and the other site doesn't ("their crackpots are really representative of them")? Truly, I'm curious as to how that apparent double-standard can be fairly maintained.

And please don't misunderstand, I'm not trying to start an argument. It's just that this particular line of logic and discussion - that of the "we're not represented by the bad posts but the other site is" - has always raised my hackles because I just don't get it. What am I missing?

Peace.

Mostly

[ultraist]

68. The asshole said, "rank and file Dems."

Defend him all you like, but the post he uses, will not be a typical rank and file Democrat, guarantee it.

The few loony posts we see around here are not representative of DUers. More often than not, they are trolls.

[MostlyLurks]

70. I never defended him.

Never, not once. In fact, here's a direct snip from an erlier post (the one, in fact, you replied to):

"And, not having heard Boortz, I don't know which posts he elects to read - clearly he might be picking people with low post count and suspicious motives."

And certainly his framing of whatever he reads i.e. "rank and file Dems" is spurious by any measurement. Even if he read a rational post, one post cannot EVER be said to measure ground level representation of any movement.

That aside, and I realize this is a pointless observation, all you've done is to reiterate the concept that "The few loony posts we see around here are not representative of DUers. More often than not, they are trolls."

This logic is inherently flawed: it surmises that the vast majority (95% to use the figure from another post) of DUers are of like mind AND like rationale, that there are only small, negligable clusters of DUers (or, more expansively, liberals/progressives) who come to their beliefs from a different or potentially injurious place.

But I guess that's all neither here nor there. I'll concede that Boortz's assertion that ANY single post is a stand-in for "rank and file" Democratic opinion is completely false. And I'd say that regardless of what he read.

Mostly.

[DancingBear]

23. They won't - here's why

1) Log on to DU

2) Make a whole bunch of posts (usually in The Lounge) to build up post count

3) Make a lunatic post in GD

4) Alert Boortz to it

5) Crow to your fellow freeps

Right wing hate radio eats this shit up.

[ret5hd]

26. how are you going to stop...

RW'ers from joining and then making these ridiculous posts?

Just askin...

[Coexist]

42. Ummm.... many of them are from people who are not really Dems

put post outlandish things to get a giggle out of cross-posting them on conservative sites. Nothing new.

[rman]

48. Another example of how easy it is to give DU a bad name

It takes just one freeper, and a cooperative talking head.

[Eloriel]

66. We're ALWAYS going to have a bad name with the right

We can't -- and I absolutely WON'T -- go living our lives worried about what they think or say.

They don't seem to care about what WE think or say about them. Why is that?

[Marr]

67. It's a public forum. You're going to get a wide range of comments.

That's why it's an effective tool, BTW. Wacko comments like the one referenced in the original post will be naturally weeded out over time. Besides, I'd bet you $10 that most of these weird posts referenced by right-wing nutjobs are posted by the nutjobs' own interns.

[MADem]

7. The lengths to which they will go to motivate their faltering faithful!!

Obviously, we're getting to the smalldicked putz. That's a good thing!

[Spinzonner]

8. Should we have to self-identify ourselevs as nutcases in our profiles ?

[SammyWinstonJack]

9. Does he know something we don't?

"george bush blew up the levy's so that he would be able to grandstand while doing his rescue thing." He can go 'Cheney' himself!

[Brewman_Jax]

10. Really?

How do we know that Boortz won't make shit up? We don't. I'll bet he has nothing to say about posts at freerepublic.com, or are they too liberal for him?

edit for content.

[billbuckhead]

22. Boortz has a disclaimer at the end of show

Saying what you hear on his show might not be true.

[Eloriel]

62. There's another disclaimer he uses quite frequently

or used to -- something to the effect that everything on the show is just for entertainment. He's an attorney, so I'm sure that this and any other disclaimers get him off scott-free from any actual responsibility for anything he ever says.

[JHB]

11. Oh My God!!!!

He found a hyperbolic political claim!

On an Internet(s) Forum site! :wow:

That's NEVER happened before! Just UNBELIEVABLE!
The Sky must be falling! :sarcasm:

[DrDan]

13. Neil Boob also encourages his listeners to

1 - ride-out the storms - after all, you can't get back to your possessions until law-enforcement declares it safe

2 - take aim at the looters and blow 'em away - "stealing that food and water for your family deserves nothing else"

he is a cretin - yes Boob, I'm talking about you - read this one, you fool!

[Ganja Ninja]

14. Boortz is a GOP tool posing as a libertarian.

Another version of Rush Limbaugh but with a twist. He's not a Republican despite all appearances to the contrary.

[RebelOne]

20. He doesn't really like either party.

[billbuckhead]

25. The Republicans are too far too the left for this fascist pig

[booksenkatz]

Too bad he cherrypicks.

Every board I've ever been to has its "eccentrics." It is completely unfair to take an eccentric post and claim it is representative of the whole of DU. MOST of the posts I've seen here this week are absolutely intelligent, informative, and caring. Why won't he read one of those? Gotta make the Dems look as wacky as possible, I guess.

But for the record, I happen to love our eccentrics here, LOL! I've even been one on occasion.

[Alpharetta]

17. good advertising for DU

He's a dumbass, by the way.

[ultraist]

69. LOL! All press is good press.

He probably had one of his employees join DU and write the post he's using or he'll just make something up.

[K-W]

19. And since all DU posters are elected by popular vote of Dems,

Clearly that opinion represents us.

[Lorien]

21. Did anyone ACTUALLY suggest that Bush* blew up the levees?

if so, that person was probably a Freeper who was taking an absurd and extreme position to attract negative attention to this site.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

27. Why would Bush blow up the levees? They weren't completed because

Republicans and Bush didn't FUND THE THINGS per the Army Corp of Engineers.

See we favor the rule against personal attacks more than we favor the rules against trolling which is why the person who started a thread asking why we haven't gotten any foreign aid is still here but anyone who accused him of rw talking points got their posts deleted.

[Jeanette in FL]

32. I never read any of the posts that he just read

Though there was alot to keep up with yesterday

[jpak]

24. Asshat reads troll post and smears DU

He probably posted it himself...

[Jeanette in FL]

28. He read two posts

Said he didn't want to bore his listeners. But said you just have to hear what these nutcases are saying

First post. Isn't it interesting that the levy's didn't fail until after the hurricane came and went. It wouldn't have taken but a couple of sticks of dynamite to take out those two levy's. Afterall no one was watching.

Second post. I think that there was deliberate destruction of the levy's. Did you notice the look on Bush's face when looking down at NO, with that smug look of satisfaction. He is a sociopath. Maybe he is so happy now that his oil is reaching record prices.

He mentioned DU.com numerous times. I listen to the enemies because I have neighbors that quote him up and down and like to be able to counter them immediately, which of course is not hard to do. Not taking any offense at the nutcase comments.

[KoKo]

35. I read both of those posts here on DU...Thought that the first post was

interesting, in that Bush supposedly was making us "safe" from terrorists yet what if a terrorist had decided to blow up any of the levee's in NO at any time?

In other words if NO was so vulnerable from a levee break then how could Bush be making us safe?

The second post was what some people really believe. That Bush doesn't really care about the "people of America" only rewarding his wealthy buddies. The poster might have been a troll or just expressing frustration.

Neither poster said that Chavez should be "taken out" or "assassinated" though. :D

[AlCzervik]

38. you know that actually happened before, it must have been maybe 10 years

ago, there was massive flooding in the mid west i think and the guy that reported the levee break actually turned out to be the one that sabotaged it. I know some DU'er will know the story on that, this place is a wealth of info.

[SammyWinstonJack]

37. I don't recall reading those 'posts' .

[bloom]

45. For all I know Neil Boortz made the posts himself...

Just so he could quote them.

[rman]

49. They can't mention DU without causing people to come over here,

and see for themselves that such posts are the exeption rather then the rule.

[quisp]

29. hmm... I haven't seen the "Bush blew up the levees..." threads yet...

any links?

[underpants]

30. GEORGE BUSH BLEW UP THE LEVEE

Please read mine Mr.Boortz please please please you are SO relevant

[KoKo]

41. Thanks, underpants....a good dose of reality. Who cares what this Boortz

thinks about anything. This is a huge board and one could cherrypick through any post here find something to be a harpy about.

Maybe if Boortz's listeners come over here they could learn a thing or two. But, I imagine he has the same kind of listeners as Limpballs and the rest. Their brains died long ago...and they need to be told what to think since they don't have any capacity to do it for themselves anymore.

[underpants]

47. GEORGE BUSH BLEW UP THE LEVEE

Exactly. Hell I can find posts of MINE that I disagree with after reading (not posting but reading) other threads and gaining a different perspective on an issue than I had before, some of which change my opinion others don't.

Oh please please please read mine make my life complete PLEASE

[peacetalksforall]

31. Obviously, anything about blowing up a levee was said in a quip or

satirical speculation. But, looks like he needs to get some mileage somewhere to defend his god.

[ima_sinnic]

33. Neal Boortz you are a sneery whiny-voiced pseudointellectual

who would cheer on Team Bush even if they roasted your grandmother over an open fire, dismembered her body, and ate her. I hate you with every fiber of my being and will be SO happy when you EAT SHIT like the rest of the lying, hypocritical selfish scum "libertarian" goons who listen to you and lap up every disgusting word you puke out.

[Tinoire]

34. LMAO. Who cares what they planted, what they think

and who they plan to "shock & awe". Fucking scum all of them.

If they want to be shocked, I'd suggest they spend a little time with these photos:



Religious Conservatives might want to pay special attention to this significant picture of that son of Satan scum



Hey Neil Boortz - screw you.

[Octafish]

36. Amen.

While they're at it, Neil and the friends of the little turd from Crawford should read:

Bush = Traitor

[fishnfla]

39. are people spamming GD yet?

Interesting to see what pops up here real quick

[Guy Fawkes]

53. wait a second...

who thought bush blew up the levys?

[ProfessorGAC]

57. Well, There Were Two Posts! So, Obviously ALL OF US DID!

I mean, come on. There were two posts about it out of the few million a week around here. So, it just has to mean that this is the "official" DU position.

Boortz is a moron and so are his listeners. So, he takes two posts, by unnamed posters, both of whom could be him for all we know, and infers that all of us think they blew up the levies. Works for the cretins who think he's smart, i suppose.
The Professor

[Guy Fawkes]

60. I wonder if they teach that...

at fundy-nutcase-journalist school.

[ProfessorGAC]

63. Not Necessary

One does not need to teach someone to have no logic. They already lack it.
The Professor

[shireen]

54. Neil Boortz can go to hell

let the freepers come here and see genuine grief and anger, in the face of a massive human tragedy that could have been avoided. If they have any remnants of a heart, they may share our anger and grief.

The suggestion that Bush blew up the levees is outrageous and stupid -- it's the kind of thing a freeper would have posted.

Isn't Boortz one of the people who is believed to be behind the stalking of Andy Stephenson during his last days? If it's true, he's one sick demented SOB.

[K-W]

56. I think Neil Boortz blew up the levee EOM

[Bouncy Ball]

58. Niel who?

I have never heard of this person. They have a radio show, I am assuming?

And we care what this Niel guy thinks why?

[Teaser]

59. READ THIS NEIL

GO FUCK YOURSELF.

[Mr_Spock]

61. lol - posting out-of-context crap

Oh, and we do have a few nut-jobs as well - they don't speak for us. Well, unless you're a lying Republican wack job like Neil Boortz. He's just another psycho Repuke who will be burning in hell...

[Obamarama]

65. Neil Boortz can suck the shit straight out of my ass....

Hope he reads THAT on the air.