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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:28 AM
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OK, so where are all these good folks supposed to live for 9 months?
:shrug:

Seriously, estimates for making NOLA habitable again range from 9-12 months from what I've heard so far.

Where will the people live and how will that be worked out?


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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:29 AM
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1. 1st let's get them out of the water, get them some food & drink
then worry about that.

It is becoming increasingly clear that there is no plan to save many of these people.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:31 AM
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3. It's an immediate need
People are going to die from disease if they stay there.

Set up tents on the outskirts or something.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:41 AM
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20. I think most of the posters here could have done a better job than FEMA
There is no communication, no food, no water, no levee repair and if it weren't for the Coast Guard (acting independent of FEMA) and local police, plus God knows how many civilian volunteers in their own boats trying to rescue people, thousands would have drowned by now.

And still there seems to be no plan.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:33 AM
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11. Isn't it stunning. That is clear. * for brains was out and about, who was
in charge? FEMA sucks big time. They got LA's electoral votes, who cares? Right?

I'm so tired of saying I loath the CM (corporate media) but I'll say it in other ways.

How can they be so stupid? This is the immediate, follow-along story.

Where do the people go? How will they live? Who will support that? What will happen to LA's economy without NOLA?

Right after they cover, WTF, why is there no plan to save these people. It'looks pretty haphazzard (I could be wrong).
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:37 AM
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17. the thought just occurred to me - imagine the Iraqi people watching
this and thinking "what goes around comes around" - what has been done to their country, has just been done to the doers. - ten times worse.

they got bombed. N.O. looks like Hiroshima.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:34 AM
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13. Let's give them a sewer service
Can you imagine 10,000 or more in the dome with no water or flushing toilets? Day after day? FEMA's planning stunk, pun intended, on this.

I also hope FEMA is sued since Bush denied funds for levee repairs.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:30 AM
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2. Closed military bases?
or even active ones. Even the worst barracks are better than a flooded city.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:32 AM
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8. Now THAT is using you head!
DAMN good idea!!! You should pass that on to your senator or whatnot.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:33 AM
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10. I hear there's an empty ranch near Crawford, Texas
People can live in tents in ditches even. This is a good question. Military bases will end up needing their own police, refugee camps they will be. Can people dispurse enough around the USA? Maybe refugees to other countries? crap
Peace
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:31 AM
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4. The White House & environs
They can help take it back for the rest of America.
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Kenroy Donating Member (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:32 AM
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5. We will have
refugee camps. The Red Cross will probably run them. I don't know where they'll be.

But they will be housed, no matter how marginally.
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expatriate Donating Member (853 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:32 AM
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6. I've been trying to remember what happened with
Hurricane Andrew. I think there were people in various temporary housing situations, ranging from tent and trailer cities to hotels to apartments for months then.

There are some people here who went through Andrew, they can clue us in.

Whatever arrangements are made, there are so many people who will be displaced - what will they do about jobs? Will their health insurance be cancelled? Many of them would have worked in New Orleans or the surrounding towns and suburbs - and those businesses will be closed long term.
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politicat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:38 AM
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18. In 92, my grandmother ended up taking in a couple...
She lives on Gulf Coast of Florida (and though she's in Port Charlotte, survived Charley okay...). She had a couple friends from the Andrew area who lost their house and lived with her for about 6 months while they decided what to do next.

There will have to be a lot of that kind of housing rationing, and if we're SMART, we'll distribute it around the nation instead of trying to deal with both refugee relief and reconstruction in the same area. But we're rarely smart.
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:32 AM
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7. Remember those FEMA detention camps? betcha.
.
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Tyranny_R_US Donating Member (988 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:33 AM
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9. In Gitmo like shelters?
Orange suits,barbed wires,angry white men in camouflage,secret medical/social experiments, etc
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 02:07 AM
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23. Lord, why is this all so believable.
Say Mary Landrieu on CNN. They asked about looting and she said, they have no water, why not but condemned taking TV's and the like.

I wonder what LA politicians will do having lost the raison d'etre for their state in the mind of many (like me)?
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:34 AM
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12. Thought I heard someone mention cruise ships
Edited on Wed Aug-31-05 01:34 AM by Desertrose
whether it was wishful thinking or a real offer, I have no idea....would provide a lot of beds & facilities though.

:shrug:

on edit: that'd only be temporary
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:36 AM
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14. ...and another thing, Why wasn't there an air and sea lift to evacuate?
...but that's already been answered...these are largely poor people. :sarcasm:They couldn't buy the tickets. Why supply the transport?

The SuperDome looked like it took quite a hit for a Level 3. what would a five have done? :screaming.bummer:
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:37 AM
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15. I read that the population of NO is over 400,000
What percentage will not be able to go back? Are they saying? I wonder if we will have refugee camps in our own country.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:37 AM
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16. a large percentage of these good folks are also poor folks . . .
who will have nothing to return to in nine months or nine years . . .

further, there's a good possibility that huge portions of NO will never be rebuilt . . . insurance companies are going to blame the losses on flooding, and if you don't have flood insurance, you're screwed . . . many don't . . .
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:41 AM
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21. Exactly! This is going to blow people's minds! Welcome to Global
Warming...I saw David Shuster or one of thelm at the sea wall saying, "the water is very warm, just like bathwater, and it's that heat that's driving the storm."

Well, it is not going to cool off any time soon.

You may be exactly right, we may be in the process of losing a national treasure, one of my favorite cities, and a cultural center that cannot be replaced.

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Pooka Fey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:39 AM
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19. Chimp is a useless drunk fuck and burning in Hell is too good for him.
Who is going to step up to the plate? Conyers? Who is fucking in charge of running the U.S.A ? WHO IS GOING TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE AND LEAD THE COUNTRY??? Bill Clinton? Paging President Clinton - stat!!! President Gore? President Kerry?? We in the U.S.A. fucking need you right about now.

(sorry to all-cap yell autorank. I'm overcome by this level of callousness and incompetence. The air-guitar chimp picture...:mad:) In the words of Mike Malloy; what is it going to take, people? Cuz I'm there right now.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:56 AM
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22. Pooka Fey...I worship at your temple!!!
no sorry necesssary...we lose a great city, 100,000 people almost get "blown away" (thank got it was'nt a 5, my god), there is a disaster of epic proportion...and, right, that's why i started this thread, he's playing a FUCKING guitar, looking like some ersatz troubedor in the Commedie Francais...

What will it take? I think we're about there.

This is an impeachment quality fuck-up!
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