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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 06:26 PM
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Citizen SpookTREASONGATE: Prior High Profile Convictions

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TREASONGATE: Prior High Profile Convictions Under 18 USC 794
The Rosenbergs were
Jonathan Pollard


"Just do the math. Valerie Plame was a CIA operative working on WMD proliferation issues. Her identity and the front company she worked for were outed by Novak. Her "undercover" status was outed by Corn, and she outed her own likeness (which shocked CIA officials) by posing for a photograph which was published in Vanity Fair.

Why should the leakers in Treasongate be treated any differently than those convicted under 18 USC 794 in the past? The statute provides no defense based upon motive. But seriously, does anybody still believe the Bush administration violated the Espionage Act and exposed themeselves to death or life in prison just to "smear" Joe Wilson? Motive doesn't matter to the law, other than its usefulness as an evidentiary device.


According to the only judges who have seen the most secret evidence that Special Counsel Fitzgerald has uncovered, serious crimes have been committed. Have a look at Lawrence O'Donnel's report in the Huffington Post of July 7, 2005, a report Citizen Spook regards as one of the most important media revelations in US history, which states:


When is the main stream media going to pay attention to the "eight redacted pages", the Judges' comments about the damage to national security, and the actual laws that have been broken, especially 18 USC 794? If you just look at the facts that are not even in dispute, they prove that Plame and Brewster Jennings were outed, you have prima facie convictions just sitting their staring America in the face."

'Veterans say regime change begins at home!!"
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 06:34 PM
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1. Lawrence O'Donnel - Damage to National Security
laws broken especially 18 USC 794

O'Donnel also said Rove would be indicted

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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:40 PM
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2. You are welcome to repost entire articles....Citizen Spook

citizenspook


Wednesday, August 24, 2005
TREASONGATE: Prior High Profile Convictions Under 18 USC 794




1. The Rosenbergs were convicted, sentenced, and put to death under 18 USC 794(b).

Please review the United States Court of Appeals' Second Circuit decision in the Rosenberg prosecution (which was upheld by the United States Supreme Court) on the issue of 18 USC 794:

"Since two of the defendants must be put to death if the judgments stand, it goes without saying that we have scrutinized the record with extraordinary care to see whether it contains any of the errors asserted on this appeal...

The Supreme Court has held that the Espionage Act of 1917 makes criminal, and subject to the prescribed penalties, the communication of the prohibited information to the advantage of 'any foreign nation,' even if such communication does not injure this country. See Gorin v. United States, 312 U.S. 19, 29-30, 61 S.Ct. 429, 435, 85 L.Ed. 488, where the Court said: 'Nor do we think it necessary to prove that the information obtained was to be used to the injury of the United States. The statute is explicit in phrasing the crime of espionage as an act of obtaining information relating to the national defense 'to be used * * * to the advantage of any foreign nation.' No distinction is made between friend or enemy. Unhappily the status of a foreign government may change. The evil which the statute punishes is the obtaining or furnishing of this guarded information, either to our hurt or another's gain.' 2 Accordingly, the trial judge, in the case at bar, properly instructed the jury as follows: 'I charge you that whether the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics was an ally or friendly nation during the period of the alleged conspiracy is immaterial..." (emphasis added)

2. Jonathan Pollard was convicted and sentenced to life in prison under 18 USC 794(c).

It's interesting to note that Mr. Pollard's appeals have been denied by none other than Thomas Hogan, Chief Justice of the US District Court for the Disctrict of Columbia. This is the same Justice Hogan who denied Judith Miller's ridiculous arguments.

Mark Kleiman, one of the few bloggers who has covered the applicability of the the Espionage Act (18 USC 793 and 794) to the facts of the Plame outing, covered Hogan's comments:

" Hogan said Miller was mistaken in her belief that she was defending a free press. He stressed that the government source she 'alleges she is protecting' had already waived her promise of confidentiality...

' This is not a case of a "whistle-blower" revealing secret information to Miller... It's a case in which the information she was given and her potential use of it was a crime... This is very different than a whistle-blower outing government misconduct.' "



It's also interesting to note that Ted Olson was one of the lawyers who represented Pollard in his appeal.

3. Aldrich Ames was convicted, and sentenced to life in prison under 18 USC 794.

Joe Wilson said, “Naming her this way would have compromised every operation, every relationship, every network with which she had been associated in her entire career. This is the stuff of Kim Philby and Aldrich Ames.”

Didn't he also say that he wanted to see Karl Rove frogmarched out of the White House? There's a law that could see that happen, Joe. Why don't you invoke it?

A
Government report, titled, "Report of the Commission on Protecting and Reducing Government Secrecy"

, had this to say about Ames' conviction and 18 USC 794 (page a-84):

"According to data gathered by the Department of Justice, there were 67 indictments under the espionage laws between 1975 and August 1996. Figures compiled by the Department of Defense Security Institute show 86 new espionage cases reported between 1975 and 1995. (Both sets of materials are on file at the Commission offices.) Aldrich Ames was indicted under 18 U.S.C. 794(c) of the Espionage Act for a conspiracy “to directly or indirectly communicate, deliver or transmit . . . documents and information related to the national defense . . . to a foreign government or a representative or officer thereof . . . with the intent or reason to believe such information could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of a foreign government.” His wife, Rosario, was also indicted for conspiracy under a separate provision of the Act, 18 U.S.C. 793(g), for “a willful combination or agreement” with her husband “to communicate, deliver or transmit . . . documents relating to the national defense . . . to persons not authorized to receive them.” Both also were indicted on tax fraud charges. Both subsequently pled guilty, with Aldrich Ames sentenced to life imprisonment without parole and Rosario Ames to a five-year term."

4. Robert Hansen was convicted and sentenced to life in prison under 18 USC 794.
Examine the Government's indictments of Hansen.



THE LAW DOES NOT CARE ABOUT POLITICS OR MOTIVE

As the cases above illustrate, the motive the informant may have for breaking the Espionage law, 18 USC 794, is totally irrelevant. The Rosenbergs and Pollard have both argued that their intention was to help an ally, not harm the United States. The courts' held that the law doesn't care what their motives were.

Walter Pincus and The Washington Post reported on Ocotber 4th, 2003:

"The leak of a CIA operative's name has also exposed the identity of a CIA front company, potentially expanding the damage caused by the original disclosure, Bush administration officials said yesterday...

After the name of the company was broadcast yesterday, administration officials confirmed that it was a CIA front...

The inadvertent disclosure of the name of a business affiliated with the CIA underscores the potential damage to the agency and its operatives caused by the leak of Plame's identity. Intelligence officials have said that once Plame's job as an undercover operative was revealed, other agency secrets could be unraveled and her sources might be compromised or endangered.

A former diplomat who spoke on condition of anonymity said yesterday that every foreign intelligence service would run Plame's name through its databases within hours of its publication to determine if she had visited their country and to reconstruct her activities.

'That's why the agency is so sensitive about just publishing her name,' the former diplomat said."

Just do the math. Valerie Plame was a CIA operative working on WMD proliferation issues. Her identity and the front company she worked for were outed by Novak. Her "undercover" status was outed by Corn, and she outed her own likeness (which shocked CIA officials) by posing for a photograph which was published in Vanity Fair.

Why should the leakers in Treasongate be treated any differently than those convicted under 18 USC 794 in the past? The statute provides no defense based upon motive. But seriously, does anybody still believe the Bush administration violated the Espionage Act and exposed themeselves to death or life in prison just to "smear" Joe Wilson? Motive doesn't matter to the law, other than its usefulness as an evidentiary device.


According to the only judges who have seen the most secret evidence that Special Counsel Fitzgerald has uncovered, serious crimes have been committed.

Have a look at Lawrence O'Donnel's report in the Huffington Post of July 7, 2005, a report Citizen Spook regards as one of the most important media revelations in US history, which states:

"In February, Circuit Judge David Tatel joined his colleagues’ order to Cooper and Miller despite his own, very lonely finding that indeed there is a federal privilege for reporters that can shield them from being compelled to testify to grand juries and give up sources. He based his finding on Rule 501 of the Federal Rules of Evidence, which authorizes federal courts to develop new privileges 'in the light of reason and experience.' Tatel actually found that reason and experience 'support recognition of a privilege for reporters’ confidential sources.' But Tatel still ordered Cooper and Miller to testify because he found that the privilege had to give way to 'the gravity of the suspected crime.'

Judge Tatel’s opinion has eight blank pages in the middle of it where he discusses the secret information the prosecutor has supplied only to the judges to convince them that the testimony he is demanding is worth sending reporters to jail to get. The gravity of the suspected crime is presumably very well developed in those redacted pages. Later, Tatel refers to 'aving carefully scrutinized voluminous classified filings.

Some of us have theorized that the prosecutor may have given up the leak case in favor of a perjury case, but Tatel still refers to it simply as a case 'which involves the alleged exposure of a covert agent.' Tatel wrote a 41-page opinion in which he seemed eager to make new law -- a federal reporters’ shield law -- but in the end, he couldn’t bring himself to do it in this particular case. In his final paragraph, he says he 'might have' let Cooper and Miller off the hook 'ere the leak at issue in this case less harmful to national security.' (emphasis added by CS)

Tatel’s colleagues are at least as impressed with the prosecutor’s secret filings as he is. One simply said 'Special Counsel’s showing decides the case.' "

All the judges who have seen the prosecutor’s secret evidence firmly believe he is pursuing a very serious crime, and they have done everything they can to help him get an indictment."

TONY BLAKELY ACCUSES THE NEW YORKER OF ESPIONAGE UNDER 18 USC 794.

KUDOS to Tony Blakely who wrote a very interesting article suggesting that Seymour Hersh was guilty of violating the Espionage Act when he revealed details regarding US intelligence pertaining to Iraq. This column is from January 2005:

"Title 18 United States Code section 794, subsection (b) prohibits anyone "in time of war, with intent that the same shall be communicated to the enemy any information with respect to the movement, numbers, or disposition of any of the Armed Forces ... of the United States ... or supposed plans or conduct of any ... military operations ... or any other information relating to the public defense, which might be useful to the enemy ... by death or by imprisonment for any term of years or for life."


Subsection (a) of that statute prohibits anyone "with ... reason to believe that it is to be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of a foreign nation, communicates ... to any representative, officer, agent, employee, subject or citizen thereof, either directly or indirectly, any information relating to the national defense, shall be punished by death or by imprisonment for any term of years or for life."

I am not an expert on these federal code sections, but a common sense reading of their language would suggest, at the least, that federal prosecutors should review the information disclosed by Mr. Hersh to determine whether or not his conduct falls within the proscribed conduct of the statute.

In the fairly recent past, at least one journalist writing for Jane's Publications has been successfully prosecuted under the statute, freedom of speech and the press not being a defense to espionage. Remember, in the famous Pentagon Papers case, the issue was prior restraint. Could the government stop a newspaper from publishing government secrets relating not to current operations but to prior planning? The answer then was no. But in the current matter of Seymour Hersh and the New Yorker, they have been free to publish the article. The question is whether or not any legal consequences attach to that decision.

I was shocked when I read Mr. Hersh's article. Note the tenses he uses to describe American military action: "The American commando task force ... is now working," "has been conducting secret reconnaissance." In other words, Mr. Hersh is revealing to all the world, including the Iranian government, that our commandos are currently behind enemy lines in Iran on a dangerous and vital military assignment. "

Full article here.

Wow. What the hell? How did this go unpunished? Aren't we at war? Are we really so docile, America? Are we really going to allow them to do this to us?

When is the main stream media going to pay attention to the "eight redacted pages", the Judges' comments about the damage to national security, and the actual laws that have been broken, especially 18 USC 794?

If you just look at the facts that are not even in dispute, they prove that Plame and Brewster Jennings were outed, you have prima facie convictions just sitting their staring America in the face.

Condi Rice has admitted that Khan's cooperation was leaked by the Government. She's admitted the Government violated 18 USC 794(b). It's out in the open. When will our nation take a closer look at the Khan leak and this trend of outing intelligence assets?

The bogus Bush mantra for the Iraq war was WMD.

But when our intelligence assets get close to real WMD threats and genuine issues of WMD proliferation, people like Sibel Edmonds, John O'Neil, Able Danger, Brewster Jennings, and the intelligence divisions involved with "turning" Khan are actually found to be doing their job, the Bush administration has exhibited an MO for shutting them down at all costs.

What is going on America, and what are you going to do about it?

by Citizen Spook

http://citizenspook.blogspot.com/
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 01:08 AM
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 02:35 AM
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BamaBecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 05:33 AM
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 09:07 AM
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6. Keeping this kicked!
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 09:18 AM
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7. Those eight pages must be mighty scary to make a GOP judge side with Fitz.
Here's a bit of what we DO know, from the Village Voice (I hope that source isn't too reactionary), that helps us understand just how wide-reaching is this criminal conspiracy known as the "Bush Administration":



What Now, Karl?

Rove and Ashcroft face new allegations in the Valerie Plame affair


by Murray Waas
August 13th, 2005 2:39 PM

Justice Department officials made the crucial decision in late 2003 to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate the leak of the identity of undercover CIA officer Valerie Plame in large part because investigators had begun to specifically question the veracity of accounts provided to them by White House deputy chief of staff Karl Rove, according to senior law enforcement officials.
Several of the federal investigators were also deeply concerned that then attorney general John Ashcroft was personally briefed regarding the details of at least one FBI interview with Rove, despite Ashcroft's own longstanding personal and political ties to Rove, the Voice has also learned. The same sources said Ashcroft was also told that investigators firmly believed that Rove had withheld important information from them during that FBI interview.

SNIP...

In response to these new allegations, Representative John Conyers of Michigan, the current ranking Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, and former chairman of the committee as well, said in a statement: "There has long been the appearance of impropriety in Ashcroft's handling of this investigation. The former attorney general had well documented conflicts of interest in this matter, particularly with regard to his personal relationship with Karl Rove. Among other things, Rove was employed by Ashcroft throughout his political career, and Rove reportedly had fiercely advocated for Ashcroft's appointment as attorney general. Pursuant to standard rules of legal ethics, and explicit rules on conflict of interest, those facts alone should have dictated his immediate recusal.

"The new information, that Ashcroft had not only refused to recuse himself over a period of months, but also was insisting on being personally briefed about a matter implicating his friend, Karl Rove, represents a stunning ethical breach that cries out for an immediate investigation by the Department's Office of Professional Responsibility and Inspector General."

Also of concern to investigators when they sought Ashcroft's recusal, according to law enforcement sources, was that a number among Ashcroft's inner circle had partisan backgrounds that included working closely with Rove. Foremost among them was David Isrealite, who served as Ashcroft’s deputy chief of staff. Another, Barbara Comstock, who was the Justice Department's director of public affairs during much of Ashcroft's tenure, had previously worked for the Republican National Committee, where she was in charge of the party's "opposition research" operations.

"It would have been a nightmare scenario if Ashcroft let something slip to an aide or someone else they had in common with Rove . . . and then word got back to Rove or the White House what investigators were saying about him," says a former senior Justice Department official, familiar with the matter.

Although not reported at the time, when Ashcroft recused himself from the Plame investigation, Deputy Attorney General Comey said in a statement that the A.G.'s personal staff was also being fully recused in the matter.

CONTINUED...

http://www.villagevoice.com/news/index.php?issue=0533&page=waasweb1&id=66861&cid=2



Hey, dbeach! Watch what you say (believe, write, do). We're at war (on Truth, Democracy, Freedom).
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 09:23 AM
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8. Yes Octafish he may even get sent to the basement
Edited on Thu Aug-25-05 09:25 AM by seemslikeadream
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 12:45 PM
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12. Could it be Bush's Watergate?
From our friends at CommonDreams.com comes the words of this Puke Pauken (I hope they're considered a non-reactionary resource):



Could it be Bush's Watergate?

Adviser shows his Nixonian roots


by Thomas Pauken
Published on Monday, August 22, 2005 by the Houston Chronicle

EXCERPT...

What happens if it turns out that the Bush administration relied on fabricated information about "weapons of mass destruction" (WMDs) to persuade Congress and the American people that we had to go to war against Iraq?

Wilson had debunked the administration's claim that Saddam Hussein was attempting to acquire a form of uranium from Niger to make WMDs. Wilson had to be discredited because, if the Niger information were false, it cast doubt upon many of the other intelligence claims made by neocons.

SNIP...

If there is any truth to these charges, the lid will blow off Washington — and the Bush administration will be history.

SNIP...

The usual sycophants are beating the drums in defense of Karl Rove, trying to make the case that conservatives have a stake in keeping Rove in power. But the party line may not save Rove's job this time. In his eagerness to hunt down a perceived enemy, Karl Rove stumbled into a national-security briar patch that may bring the entire neocon cabal down with him.

Pauken is a former Reagan official who served as a military-intelligence officer in Vietnam. He also was chairman of the Republican Party of Texas from 1994 to 1997. This article first appeared in the September 2005 issue of Chronicles: A Magazine of American Culture

SOURCE:

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0822-24.htm



We need to spread the word FAST. The neocon turdballs are trapped and we know what happens to animals that are cornered. These are people, however. The analogy should be made to Hitler and the bunker.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 01:02 PM
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14. We raise children and we write their names
The Poisonjester's Mask
There was tear gas in the poisonjester's mask
Shed a tear, dear, for the clown
Tried to fight fire with water
It went down on the ten o'clock news

I bought the paper and walked back to where I'd parked
The man on the movie theater steps
Can always find his needle
But I wonder where's the thread?


How much more can we bare
'Til the way is paved?
For the revolution
There'll be nothing left unchanged

Tonight I'm tired and I'm worn, so I consent
To cede control to the remote
To wrap me in its airtight void
And keep me from my own

How much more can we bare
'Til the way is paved?
For the revolution
There'll be nothing left unchanged

For the revolution
There'll be nothing left unchanged

We fight just wars and we build just walls
We raise cities and make cities fall
We raise children and we write their names
On granite walls, we don't like losing games

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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 10:02 AM
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9. BFEE declared war on humanity in 11/00
in the coup #1,followed by the cover-up coup of 9/11,11/02/04 and of course 7/7/05 all designed by the ruling elites to tighten the police state in the name of security..THEY ONLY BENEFIT from their continuing wars and sinister assaults on the Middle class and all Freedom loving people.

Yes my good friend This is war ...a battle for the minds and souls of humanity..

I know you have chosen the side of reason and enlightenment which of course will be the WINNING side as the losers are but a reflection of our inner fears and their total arrogance and deceit.

NO FEAR! 1% of the population is not destined to rule over 90%..

its their prideful and greedy thinking pushing their agenda on to new lows.

Truly the most dangerous times in history.

OFF TO DA BEACH!!
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 10:22 AM
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10. "The most dangerous times in history." That's exactly what it is.
Edited on Thu Aug-25-05 10:22 AM by Beam Me Up
We, the American people, have a choice. Either we wake from the narcotic sleep of corporatism and take control of the democratic institutions that are the foundations of this country, or we perish. Recognizing that right and left, conservative and liberal, have a stake in opposing fascism masquerading as Republicanism and Christian values, a fascism that has insinuated itself in the highest offices of our nation and the deepest cul-de-sacs of the National Security State, we must begin the very difficult process of redefining who and what we are as a nation and a people and our GOOD NEIGHBOR relationship with the rest of the people of this world. Failing this will be the end of this country and any illusion of democracy and the death of millions upon millions, both here and abroad.

This is not an overstatement.
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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 12:20 PM
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11. well put11
the worship of the false gods of money,power,prestige and status have been used by the elites since B 4 Christ was a corporal..
BFEE is merely the opportunist that the negativity have forced upon us.

RESIST and in the end save your self ,your family and friends as best as your able..the narcitic state of amerika has been informed by many of the enlightened..they can chose their destiny.
".As FOR ME GIVE LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH.."
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 12:49 PM
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13. When an animal is cornered, it fights to the death.
These neocon traitors are much, much worse. The comparison should be made to what a cornered Hitler did. He tried to take the whole world down with him.



The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth becomes the greatest enemy of the State." - Dr. Joseph M. Goebbels



Thanks for the kind words, dbeach! Your friendship means the world to me.
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