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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 04:59 PM
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"Stealing the Fire".....Saddam gets nuclear secrets from Nazi connections
Anybody know anything about it?

watching it now on Sundance

here's a review from the NYT

The central figure in ''Stealing the Fire,'' a video documentary by John S. Friedman and Eric Nadler that opens today at the Cinema Village, is one Karl-Heinz Schaab, a deceptively drab German technocrat whose only discernable character trait is a weakness for bad wigs.
Mr. Schaab is a colorless man who says little and reveals less. In a Munich court in 1999 he was convicted of selling German nuclear technology to Iraq: specifically, appropriating the secret plans for an array of centrifuges used to produce weapons-grade uranium.


The filmmakers attempt to follow Mr. Schaab's trail in Iraq, where he met with Khidhir Hamza, the former director of Saddam Hussein's nuclear project (who has since defected, and is interviewed in the film) and in Brazil, where, the filmmakers say, he was involved in a plan to build a Brazilian nuclear submarine.

Most of Mr. Schaab's story is told through his defense lawyers. As the film cuts back and forth among Rio de Janeiro, Munich and Baghdad, with side trips to Zurich and elsewhere, it takes on the exotic coloration of a postwar espionage thriller, something the novelist Eric Ambler might have conceived on a tramp steamer crossing the Black Sea.

http://movies2.nytimes.com/mem/movies/review.html?title1=&title2=Stealing%20the%20Fire%20%28Movie%29%20%20&reviewer=Dave%20Kehr&pdate=&v_id=267622

wonder where it's going; what its viewpoint is.....haven't found anything WRT POV yet....just noticed it was on
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 05:00 PM
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Filmed over five years on four continents, Stealing the Fire focuses on Karl-Heinz Schaab, a German technician convicted of treason in 1999 for selling top secret nuclear weapons plans to Iraq. The film unflinchingly exposes a web of government and corporate intrigue and lays bare an unbroken chain of events and people that connects today's nuclear weapons underground with the atomic bomb program of Nazi Germany. Stealing the Fire investigates the 60-year history of a German multi-national corporation that directly profited from the Holocaust and in recent decades became a leading supplier of nuclear weapons technology to developing nations, including Iraq and Pakistan

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then, QandA with filmmakers

http://www.hrw.org/iff/2002/ny/stealing.html
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 05:01 PM
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2. showing aluminum tubes.....uh oh....for centrifuges
Edited on Mon Aug-15-05 05:02 PM by Gabi Hayes
real tubes, though....no cartoons, Colin (I know, those were of the mobile labs)

don't know what to make of this
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 05:07 PM
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3. No one remembers
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 05:11 PM
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6. I sure do.....the big ass gun, pointing from Iraq to Israel
but I'm curious as to what this movie will have to say about what Saddam really, actually HAD in his nuclear arsenal

how come the RW media didn't POUNCE all over this movie in 2002, if it were credible?
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 05:08 PM
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4. That doesn't surprise me, given Bush's nazi past.
eom
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 05:12 PM
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7. read the next post, in which it's being spun oppositely, in favor of
our own Reich
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 05:09 PM
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5. can of worms? read this
http://www.jewishpost.com/jp0901/jpn0901d.htm

Recently, the American anti-President Bush has tried to brainwash the American public opinion by a PR campaign. For example, a one page ad in the New York Times (Oct. 3, 2002): "Bush's Weapon of Mass Destruction: War With Iraq."

This anti-Republic camp argued: "There is no evidence that Hussein has weapons of mass destruction or is trying to build them." But the British government stated the opposite. And all the experts in the world argued that in two years Iraq will have nuclear bombs! Democrats are trying to put a stigma on President Bush, a stigma of "war monger." And one cannot believe the world is rushing to save Saddam Hussein's neck? Suddenly one can trace the revival of a "new appeasement policy" especially in the U.N. and the European community. There are also Jewish organizations and leaders who are against the war and to hell with the Israelis... (American Jewry has a unique historical "experience" of standing by while millions of Jews were murdered in the Holocaust).




where's the EVIDENCE that he HAD anything, twit?
oh yeah, they found those centrifuge pieces buried in some guys back yard....all the reason we needed, right?
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