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PurgedVoter Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 10:53 AM
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Rafael Palmeiro couldn't help lying.
Will Rafael Palmeiro get into trouble for lying before Congress? http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/08/02/PALMEIRO.TMP
Will he suffer for the use of illegal drugs?

I don't think he will.
I think he will get by just fine because he has paid for a get out of jail free card.
http://newsmeat.com/sports_political_donations/Rafael_Palmeiro.php
He has given $4000 to Bush.
Poor Martha Stewart she gave $173000 to Democratic causes. http://www.newsmeat.com/ceo_political_donations/Martha_Stewart.php

Democrats are expected to be honest and decent. That is what they believe in. We hold our fellow Democrats to high standards. On the other hand it is just plain wrong to call Republican's two-faced dirty liars. They may have taken a bath recently.



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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 10:55 AM
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1. a repug lying (to Congress) about drug use? Nah! Cue Rush L...-eom
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:48 AM
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2. Congress had no business looking into this crap in the first place.
To go so far as to nail someone on perjury would be a pretty pathetic use of their time.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:50 AM
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3. Well, it's not like they haven't done it before
Besides, with Chimpy and his henchmen running the entire government from their criminal lair in the West Wing, what else does Congress have to do?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:55 AM
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5. Better they address this than pass more CAFTA-like harmful crap.
If they were going to investigate the way repukes stole two elections, that'd be great.

If they were going to press the Pentagon to release the footage of soldiers raping people in Abu Ghraib, that'd be great, too.

Unfortunately, they're not doing anything useful... they're only using their time to twiddle their thumbs (steroid hearings) or do actual harm to the US (CAFTA). As such, let them go after this repuke lover for his crime.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:54 AM
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4. But, he's George Bush's friend!
Doesn't that make it all-okay?
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:05 PM
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6. Wasn't Palmiero With Baltimore in '04?
Edited on Tue Aug-02-05 12:06 PM by KharmaTrain
According to his donations:

PALMEIRO, RAFAEL MR.
COLLEYVILLE, TX 76034
TEXAS RANGERS/PROFESSIONAL BASEBALL BUSH, GEORGE W (R)
President
BUSH-CHENEY '04 COMPLIANCE COMMITTEE INC. $2,000
general 08/17/04
PALMEIRO, RAFAEL MR.
COLLEYVILLE, TX 76034
TEXAS RANGERS/PROFESSIONAL BASEBALL BUSH, GEORGE W (R)
President
BUSH-CHENEY '04 (PRIMARY) INC $2,000
primary 07/23/03


This donation would have been made in the middle of last season. I coulda sworn he was an O, not a "Ranger" last season. Hmmm. What's the penalty for lying on one of those Federal Election Disclosure forms?

Yep, poor Raffie didn't know what got into him or how he took it. OK, yeah right. I know...it was slipped in his Gatorade by some Democratic operative...like Hillary...and then it was coordinated with Bud Selig (no mind he's a Repugnican, too...and good buds with Jimmy Sensenbrenner) to frame poor old Raffie.

:puke:

I don't really give a rip if players are juiced up or not with steroids. If it's not one substance, there'll be another. The money's too big, the fame too great to not find a way to become "superhuman". If they're so vain glorious and fool-hearty to destroy their health for that extra nugget of gold, isn't that what "capitalism" is all about? Or personal responsibility?

Raffie's guilty of being a hypocrite...let him carry that baggage around for a while. Maybe he can join OJ on the links.

Cheers...
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newscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:26 PM
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7. At least he has an inside track on getting a pardon
Maybe that's why he was so brazen in front of Congress.
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:32 PM
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8. "you either lied in the ad or used a prescription drug recreationally.''
n sports terms, Congress has been shown up. Rafael Palmeiro didn't even have to work at it. He just had to act smooth, point a finger at a House committee and declare passionately that he had never used steroids. The committee made it easy for him, throwing softball questions at a man who had hit 551 home runs in the majors.

The panel was so naive that no one bothered to ask Palmeiro: "Hey, aren't you the guy who shilled for Viagra and then said he didn't need it? In other words, you either lied in the ad or used a prescription drug recreationally.''

Nor did anyone inquire about Palmeiro's slow follow-through on threats to sue Jose Canseco for writing that Palmeiro used steroids when they were teammates in Texas. More than a month had passed since the release of Canseco's autobiography. The delay made no sense. Palmeiro didn't have to hunt for a lawyer. He said he could count on Orioles owner Peter Angelos, a renowned litigator eager to defend his first baseman's honor.

Now, Palmeiro is ducking questions about a positive steroid test, citing a confidentiality requirement that doesn't exist. On Monday, after his 10-day suspension was announced, he spoke on a conference call that was as charmingly crafted as his Congressional testimony 4 1/2 months ago.

Palmeiro asked for forgiveness, said he had ingested a banned substance by accident and promised to educate kids about the dangers of putting things in their bodies that weren't recommended by a doctor.

n sports terms, Congress has been shown up. Rafael Palmeiro didn't even have to work at it. He just had to act smooth, point a finger at a House committee and declare passionately that he had never used steroids. The committee made it easy for him, throwing softball questions at a man who had hit 551 home runs in the majors.

The panel was so naive that no one bothered to ask Palmeiro: "Hey, aren't you the guy who shilled for Viagra and then said he didn't need it? In other words, you either lied in the ad or used a prescription drug recreationally.''

Nor did anyone inquire about Palmeiro's slow follow-through on threats to sue Jose Canseco for writing that Palmeiro used steroids when they were teammates in Texas. More than a month had passed since the release of Canseco's autobiography. The delay made no sense. Palmeiro didn't have to hunt for a lawyer. He said he could count on Orioles owner Peter Angelos, a renowned litigator eager to defend his first baseman's honor.

Now, Palmeiro is ducking questions about a positive steroid test, citing a confidentiality requirement that doesn't exist. On Monday, after his 10-day suspension was announced, he spoke on a conference call that was as charmingly crafted as his Congressional testimony 4 1/2 months ago.

Palmeiro asked for forgiveness, said he had ingested a banned substance by accident and promised to educate kids about the dangers of putting things in their bodies that weren't recommended by a doctor.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 09:31 AM
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9. Interestingly enough, his test was in May
I've been trying to remember when his testimony took place (and too lazy to google it up). So, he must have mysteriously ingested the erroneous substance just after the hearing.

Maybe it was in the milk he chugged for his victory after shaking his finger at our elected officials! Ooops!!! Sorry. Wrong sport. An intentional mistake on my part.
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