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soup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:07 AM
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Oh, the hypocrisy
What Does Orrin Hatch Have to Say About Recess Appointments?

FROM THE CNN ARCHIVES (1997):

"If a recess appointment, then I have to say, it's a finger in the eye of the Senate," Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, told FOX on Sunday. "I think you'd find there would be an awful lot of repercussions from that."

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1997/12/14/lee/


from BuzzFlash.com

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When Will Clinton
Be Held Accountable?

"It's a slap in the face of Catholics everywhere," said Sen. Trent Lott, in response to President Clinton's recess appointment of the openly gay James C. Hormel as Ambassador to Luxembourg.
http://www.populist.com/99.7.walker.html

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Some Republican Senators have complained that President Clinton failed to adhere to this policy in December of 1999 by reappointing Sarah Fox to the National labor Relations Board even though her name had not been included on a list of potential recess appointees. In response, Senators Inhofe (R-OK) and Craig (R-ID) have threatened to block all future judicial nominations made by Clinton this year.
http://www.thisnation.com/question/010.html

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Questioning the Constitutionality of Recess Appointments to the Federal Judiciary
Howard J. Bashman, Mon Mar 12, 2001

On December 27, 2000, William Jefferson Clinton became the first President in two decades to use the power available under Article II of the U.S. Constitution to make a recess appointment to the federal judiciary. President Clinton's recess appointment of Roger Gregory to fill a longstanding judicial vacancy on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit proved newsworthy because Gregory became the first African-American judge on that court. The Fourth Circuit, which consists of Maryland, North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia and West Virginia, has the largest African-American population of any circuit in the nation.

Although President Clinton's last-minute pardons have generated a great deal of controversy, his decision to make a recess appointment to the federal judiciary in his last month in office may rekindle the debate over the constitutionality of that practice. For the reasons that follow, I have concluded that recess appointments to the federal judiciary are unconstitutional. Recess appointees therefore should not be permitted to exercise the judicial power of the United States conferred under Article III of the U.S. Constitution.>snip<

>Once the controversy over President Clinton's last-minute pardons subsides, the battle over the constitutionality of federal judicial recess appointments is ready to begin anew.
http://www.bipc.com/news.cfm?mode=article&article_id=492&practice_id=56

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When President Clinton used recess appointments to fill vacant slots in important positions, there was an outcry from Senate Republicans who claimed that recess appointments were an "affront" to the Constitution and "subverted" the confirmation process.

Senate Minority Leader Trent Lott

>Then Senate Majority Leader Lott condemned the recess appointment of James Hormel as Ambassador to Luxemborg as a "subversion of the confirmation process." (June 9, 1999, The Washington Post)

Minority Whip Don Nickles

>"It's unfortunate, and, again, he's really defying the Constitution . . . There's a reason why you have advise and consent. There's a reason why you have confirmation." (December 31, 2000, UPI)

>"If he really sticks his finger in the eye of the Senate as far as the confirmation process, he may not get another person confirmed . . . We don't have to confirm anybody next year." (November 5, 1999, The Washington Times)

Senator James Inhofe

>"President Clinton has shown contempt for Congress and the Constitution . . . He has treated the Senate confirmation process as little more than a nuisance which he can circumvent whenever he wants to impose his will on the country." (June 10, 1999, Roll Call)

>" I will place a `hold' on every judicial nominee that reaches the Senate calendar for the remainder of the Clinton presidency." (December 22, 1999, The Arkansas Democrat-Gazette)

Senator Mitch McConnell

>"This would be a declaration of war halfway through the 105th Congress . . . If he tries, it will cost him. It could be appointments. It could be legislative cooperation. The opportunities are wide open for any fertile mind to contemplate." (December 9, 1997, The Washington Times)

Senator Bob Smith

>"I view this as the president saying, In your face, Senate; you can have your `advise and consent.'" (June 5, 1999, The Los Angeles Times)

>"Clinton's decision to nominate Mr. Hormel while we are in recess is an affront to the Senate and to the Constitution." (June 7, 1999, The Hotline)
http://www.hypocrites.com/article2826.html

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If I don't laugh, I'll :nuke:

Please feel free to add to the list here.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:12 AM
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1. so when will the Corporate Stenographers point out the hypocrisy
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:17 AM
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3. NEVER!
:banghead:
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soup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:20 AM
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4. Definitely not holding my breath on this one.
Can't even shake my head in wonder anymore. All that got me was a headache.

Are there stages in disgust like there are in grief? If so, I'm in the 'gotta laugh to save what little sanity I have left' stage.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 12:01 PM
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10. btw, very nice work here soup
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:15 AM
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2. Thanks for the timely
refresher course on the history of reichwing hypocrisy.

APpreciate the effort it took to find all of that.

:applause:
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soup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:29 AM
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5. Just know that 'Clinton did it, Dems weren't screaming then' is coming.
Doing a little homework to prepare - a bit of a friendly reminder.

and you're most welcome. If the Clinton bashing hasn't started already, it's on the horizon - stockpiling the ammo.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:32 AM
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6. This is great stuff
I tossed a few into my next article. Thanks so much for this!
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:42 AM
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7. Great find
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:51 AM
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8. How do you spell Republican?
Give me an H
Give me a Y
Give me a P
Give me an O
Give me a C
Give me an R
Give me an I
Give me a T
Give me an E


What does it spell? HYPOCRITE!!!

I'm reading Al Franken's "Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them." It's loaded with stuff about their hypocrisy. Recommended reading for anyone who hasn't read it yet. Very, very funny, but also very, very informative about the lies we keep being fed by the likes of Mann Coulter, Bill O'Liely, Sean Hannity, etc. We here on DU are just too smart to believe them.

O'Liely even lied about where he was raised. Wanting to be seen as having risen above his humble beginnings, he said he was raised in Levittown. His mother said he was raised in Westbury, which is far more upscale. He went, according to his mother, to private school. When confronted with the facts, he said "Oh, I was raised in the Westbury part of Levittown." There is no such place -- they are totally different communities. As Franken says, that's like saying you grew up in the Manhattan section of Brooklyn.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:55 AM
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9. Luxembourg?
Clinton's recess appointment of Ambassador to Luxembourg was a big deal, and a "slap in the face"? But its ok to appoint a controversial asshole to UN Ambassador without consent?
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soup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 12:14 PM
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11. But Clinton had an 'agenda' donchyaknow?
Check this out. I've stopped laughing, quit shaking my head, and am quickly approaching :nuke:

The President Who Would Be King

by Matt Kaufman

And so it was that in May of this year, Clinton named James Hormel-dubbed by one Senate staffer "the nation's most aggressive financier of the gay movement"-ambassador to the 97 percent Catholic country of Luxembourg.

Other presidents have made recess appointments, but not with the same disregard of the Senate. Clinton's action was unique enough that it got some press. Yet conservatives and libertarians who actually pay attention to Clinton's lesser-publicized shenanigans will tell you that the Hormel affair is part of a much bigger story.

That story, in brief, is that the president is acting more like a monarch than a constitutional officer, implementing an agenda potentially harmful to families and freedom. And with few exceptions, Congress is doing little to resist him.
http://www.family.org/cforum/citizenmag/features/a0007196.cfm

Yes, That family.org - Focus on the Family
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 01:05 PM
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14. Oh of course
The reason why is because the guy was openly gay. Bolton just likes weird straight sex. :eyes:
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 12:26 PM
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12. This One Takes The Cake...
Some Republican Senators have complained that President Clinton failed to adhere to this policy in December of 1999 by reappointing Sarah Fox to the National labor Relations Board even though her name had not been included on a list of potential recess appointees. In response, Senators Inhofe (R-OK) and Craig (R-ID) have threatened to block all future judicial nominations made by Clinton this year.

So what was it about not blocking judges from getting "up and down" votes. This is just as sickening as those Bosnian war quotes from DeLay, Imhoffe and others...and no one except the intrepid of DU see this incredible lying.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 12:52 PM
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13. Nice catch
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FormerOstrich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 01:29 PM
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15. Can I copy your work and post on another forum...
This is a great post!!
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soup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 01:38 PM
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16. Run with it.
All I did was collect a few bits that were already out there on the internetS.
:hi:
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FormerOstrich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 01:46 PM
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17. THANK YOU!!!
I've gathered a few I'll add later this afternoon...I'm running late as usual and am just dying to post this on a local board. thx again!!
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