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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:18 AM
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Please put this picture on the DU home page!
Edited on Thu Jul-28-05 10:21 AM by Stephanie


Put it on the front page of every newspaper, air the video on every network. THIS is your "President."

What would have happened if Howard Dean did this?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

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WeRQ4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:24 AM
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1. I don't believe this is his middle finger. Just my .02
Edited on Thu Jul-28-05 10:24 AM by WeRQ4U
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PunkPop Donating Member (847 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:26 AM
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2. No, you're right. It's his thumb.
How great it would be if it was his finger.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:32 AM
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11. Okay, I was wrong...
Edited on Thu Jul-28-05 10:39 AM by Spider Jerusalem
looking closer the wrist is in the wrong position for it to be his middle finger...never mind.
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WeRQ4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:33 AM
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14. Don't be blinded by what you WANT to believe.
I cannot believe I'm arguing this with people. LOL

It's a thumb. Watch the whole video. Read my other "Am I missing Something" post.

Oh shit, I just thought of something. I have to go change the title fo my original post. Be right back.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:36 AM
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19. Edited: I was wrong, sorry...
Edited on Thu Jul-28-05 10:42 AM by Spider Jerusalem
looking closer, it's got to be a thumb...the wrist isn't turned as it would be if he were flipping off the press...never mind...
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:38 AM
Response to Reply #19
22. I see a middle finger too
and an apologist...

:eyes:
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WeRQ4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:39 AM
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24. Spare me.
Edited on Thu Jul-28-05 10:40 AM by WeRQ4U
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WeRQ4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:39 AM
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23. No offense, but I've got some nice ocean front property in ND for you too
It's cheap.... promise. lol
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PunkPop Donating Member (847 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:36 AM
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17. No, it's pretty obvious it's his thumb.
PhotoShop or no PhotoShop. Please, watch the video. The way he raises his arm and his position relative to the camera makes it seem FOR A MOMENT that it is his middle finger. However, it's not.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:27 AM
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3. This comment: "I hate GW just as much as the next dude..."
occurs from time to time around here and never fails to make me wonder. It's one of those "tells" - like in poker.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:29 AM
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6. Really? Why?
Sometimes if you don't make it clear, you'll get flamed and accused of being a freeper. But I guess you can't win either way!
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:30 AM
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7. guess not!
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WeRQ4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:31 AM
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10. What the hell are you talking about.
Edited on Thu Jul-28-05 10:32 AM by WeRQ4U
Check some of my other posts. You'll know I'm in your camp. You just never know with this crowd. You make one post against the grain and there's blood in the water. I'm not a freeper, I assure you. I'm just in favor of saving my own credibility and not wasting it on crap like this. It's a thumb.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:43 AM
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27. I hate B*sh as much as the next guy, too. But you are wrong.
If you think that's a thumb, then exactly WHERE
have you seen human hands
that bend and stretch that way?
Or do you believe his thumb is really 7 inches long?

Try it yourself: Make your hand and wrist assume that pose.
SEE? It can't be done. Just not possible.

The ONLY way that is a THUMB is if
it's someone else's thumb
and B*sh is holding it between his knuckles.
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WeRQ4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 11:08 AM
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32. Sorry, I disagree.
And I'm not an alien. My hands work just like yours. And when I make a thumbs up, my fingers curl around and under on the other side of my hand. Since the video is blurry, you can't see the individual digits curled under. But when I squint and look at my thumbs up sign, it's the same exact gesture.

So, should I call myself an apologist now or wait for you to accuse me of it in a couple minutes?
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 11:22 AM
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35. I'm not gonna ACCUSE you of anything, so don't hold your breath.
And as far as your snarky inference that I was going to...
Well, I'll just say that it was misguided, and leave it at that.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:33 AM
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12. Not this time.
I agree, I think it's his thumb. Watching the video, he looks up just slightly before flashing it. Like he's giving the thumbs up to someone he just saw. Hold your thumb up like Clinton used to do during speeches. Your index finger wraps around and appears on the other side of the thumb, giving the illusion from that angle and that lighting that it's his middle finger.
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WeRQ4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:36 AM
Response to Reply #12
18. THANK YOU.
Edited on Thu Jul-28-05 10:37 AM by WeRQ4U
This is what I posted before.

I've looked at that picture about a thousand times now. It's not his middle finger. It's his thumb.

First, you can see where his wrist runs up to his tip of his thumb.

Second, he would have a freakishly short middle finger. That is normally the longest finger on your hand.

Third, try doing it. Your hand and arm have to be bent at a much more severe angle. WHen you twist your wrist to make each respective gesture, you can tell that the position of his arm and wrist in this photo are of his thumb.

Fourth, he would also have one of the narrowest palms in the world. Make a thumbs up. See how narrow your palm looks. Now turn it out and make the other gesture. Your palm widens as you turn your hand.

It's his fricken thumb. If I'm a DINO for thinking that than so be it.
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:27 AM
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4. Please don't put the thumb on the homepage.
It's all out there in the media anyway as an alleged middle finger.

No need to tarnish DU's homepage with this non-item.

His supporters eat that shit up anyway. They think it shows his "toughness." ("Yeah, fuck the liberal media!")

Remember "There's Adam Clymer, major league asshole for the New York Times?"

Remember Cheney's Senate floor curse to Leahy, "Go Fuck Yourself?"

This stuff doesn't bother the allegedly pious.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:29 AM
Response to Reply #4
5. What is all this "thumb" talk?
It's plain as day in the picture - that's not his thumb. Did they call a presser to announce it was really his thumb?
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:33 AM
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13. Looks to me...
from that framegrab that we *could* be mistaking his thumb for his index finger, which would make the extended finger his index finger, as in "up" or "number 1" or "check out this snot blossom"...

:shrug:
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no_to_war_economy Donating Member (962 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:31 AM
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8. i vote thumb
it is not the bird

this is the bird

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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:31 AM
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9. Put it on the front page and ask this question ?
IS THIS REALLY HIS THUMB ?? :)
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:36 AM
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15. It's a pen.
It's not a thumb, and it's not a middle finger. It's a pen. I'm looking at the frame-by-frame now. I'll upload it in a sec.
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WeRQ4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:38 AM
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21. The conspiracy.
Sorry for the shitstorm.
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:50 AM
Response to Reply #15
28. Here's the frame-by-frame
It's not a thumb. And that's not a middle finger. It's a pen. He's pumping his fist in the air as a sign of victory. But he's got a pen between his fingers. Note the tiny little nob on the right side of the thing that is sticking up -- that's the little clip on every pen that you use to clip it to your pocket protector.

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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 11:01 AM
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29. If it is a pen
then I think his intent was still the same - the message he was sending.

And he would have known how it would look to people.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 11:16 AM
Response to Reply #29
34. Agreed. - n/t
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 11:24 AM
Response to Reply #28
36. But look at the video early as he goes by the corner
I don't see a pen in his hand and the President probably doesn't walk around with a pen since he shakes so many hands.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 11:28 AM
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37. You sure it's not a crayon?
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:36 AM
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16. I'm out of this thread. I've got work to do cross-referencing
the list of people who started threads about the thumb with the list of people who started threads saying, "DON'T LET THE SUPREME COURT NOMINATION KNOCK ROVEGATE OFF THE FRONT PAGES!"
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WeRQ4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:37 AM
Response to Reply #16
20. That's my thought exactly.
It's ridiculous.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:41 AM
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25. Thumb? Whah? Are we looking at the same picture?
That's not a thumb, folks.

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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 11:03 AM
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30. Sounds like wishful thinking to me (the thumb nonsense).
People wishing they had an adult for a president.
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 11:05 AM
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31. Try watching the video
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 11:14 AM
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33. I did. It's not a thumb. A pen, maybe -- not a thumb.
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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:43 AM
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26. From onegoodmove via Americablog
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