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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 07:34 AM
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Self Deleting
Edited on Thu Jul-28-05 08:31 AM by DistressedAmerican
Should not have.

Just bound to attract flames...
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 07:35 AM
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1. In my case, I can't always see the images if I'm using my work computer
I can't see many images that people post, and so I don't respond. Unfortunately, I usually forget to check those threads when I get home at night.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 07:37 AM
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4. That Is A Bummer. You Do Reply To A Lot Of My Stuff! Thanks!
I Try to return the fave when I see yours. Really like your stuff!
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 07:36 AM
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2. I was sleeping, didn't see it.
I always love your graphiv threads, just don't always see them. You do damn good work.


Keiths Barbeque Central

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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 07:38 AM
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6. Yeah, Yeah. I Know You Always Kiss My Ass! What Are Friends For?
:evilgrin:
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 11:12 AM
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44. OK your graphics suck
To Hell with you
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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 07:37 AM
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3. Here's my take:
This is a text-oriented forum, one where discussion is the main means of communicating information. People see a graphic, most probably don't realize how much time/effort goes into it, and unless it's really striking to them in some way, they probably just don't comment on it. I see the graphic up there, and yes, I think it's a good comparison, but I don't have anything to discuss about it, per se. And the more times you bring this particular issue up, the more you turn people off to responding, IMO. If you want critical feedback for graphics, you need to look for a graphics-oriented forum, or start a group here...
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 07:39 AM
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7. How About Just A Friendly Kick If You Enjoyed It?
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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 07:48 AM
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12. That is certainly doable
I didn't know what kind of replies you were talking about! Kicking something you like is always encouraged, of course :)
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 07:52 AM
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14. Thanks! We Appreciate It!
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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:26 AM
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38. very good points, LynzM!
:hi:
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 07:37 AM
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5. don't stop now
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 07:39 AM
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8. When I'm on my home computer, I'm on a dial-up
and it just kills my computer to pull up graphics or threads with a lot of pictures in them. Sometimes threads with lots of animated signatures or avatars have the same effect.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 07:41 AM
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10. Sorry. I Do Work Really Hard To Optimize My Stuff And Make It As Small A
file size as possible.

Breaks my heart to loose some of the image quality. But, I know it is an issue!
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 07:40 AM
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9. Hello and recommended...we have superb graphic artists posting here
And you all deserve recognition creating art that resonates with all of us. MKJ

:hi:

BTW, Puritanical Hysteria is spot on; a response of laughter and fear for me.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 07:47 AM
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11. I'm a big fan as well, DA; I love your graphics
threads and usually try to acknowledge them. Missed last night's; a girl's gotta sleep! Please don't stop sharing them with us! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 07:52 AM
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13. I Have No Plans Of Doing That! You Folks Are Way Too Great!
Just reminding peole that they CAN respond to graphics and that we really like it.

It is impossible to say if anything we are doing ACTUALLY changes anything (Although I sure as hell hope so). We aren't making any money to speak of so a little feedback is about all we get.

For the record, You left me one of the most encouraging replies of the week the other day!

Thanks! :pals:
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 07:52 AM
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15. XOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXO
Did that help? I would agree with the earlier dial up comment. DON'T STOP CRANKING OUT THESE GEMS!

If it makes ya feel any bettah, :kick: and nominate......
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 07:53 AM
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17. Hey, My Wife Is Going Out Of Town With The Baby In Mid August!
Edited on Thu Jul-28-05 07:54 AM by DistressedAmerican
Are you up for a visitor?

p.s. yes, I feel better. :grouphug:
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 07:57 AM
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19. Yup.
Edited on Thu Jul-28-05 08:26 AM by unhappycamper
A little Tootsie Roll Patrol around the Freedom Trail or Cape blogging perhaps?

on edit: title of original post may be taken wrong
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NoSunWithoutShadow Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 07:53 AM
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16. I'm one of those who doesn't post or comment very often
(200 posts in 2 & 1/2 years)But read DU every day.

I love your work. You're very talented.

From now on, I will give you a friendly KICK.

Thanks,Karen

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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 07:55 AM
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18. A picture is worth a thousand words is right
Edited on Thu Jul-28-05 07:56 AM by CWebster
Maybe you said it all with images. What is left to say?

Once I commented on one of MoPaul's hilarious cartoons of Bush, and the next time I clicked on it was gone, so I thought maybe I shouldn't say anything. ;-)
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:01 AM
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23. Don't Blame Yourself. MoPaul Is A Bad Influence On Us All.
He's one of the major inspirations for me starting up.

So, clearly he can be directly blamed for destroying my life and making me a sleep deprived pixel junky!


DAMN YOU MOPAUL!!!
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Obamarama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 07:57 AM
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20. Maybe you should include "PLEASE FEED MY EGO" when you post
Edited on Thu Jul-28-05 07:58 AM by KzooDem
I mean really...begging for replies to your posts, and then having the balls to actually inquire as to WHY people aren't relpying? Maybe we just like to look. Come down off the cross...someone needs the wood.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:03 AM
Response to Reply #20
24. Maybe You Should Include "Ignore this post before you bother reading it"
with yours.

Enjoy your look.
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Obamarama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:41 AM
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40. Well, you asked for a response.
You got one. Sorry you didn't like it.

But then again people who plead for validation are usually looking for compliments. So, for what its worth...I do kind of like your artwork and have admired it from time to time. And I'll continue to view it and enjoy it.

Have nice day. Really :-)
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 07:59 AM
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21. DA, I love your posts, but last night I was planning baby shower
for my daughter. Didn't log on until almost 11:30. Whatever your post was, I know it was good.

Keep the spirits up and keep posting. I'll at least give you a good swift kick even if I don't have anything intelligent to say! O.K.???

:kick: :kick: :kick:
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 07:59 AM
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22. please keep up the good work
I love the graphics in the OP. :applause:
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:04 AM
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25. You've asked this before.
You'll probably get the same answers!
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:08 AM
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28. Read The Thread. A Reminder Never Hurts. You've Flamed Me Out
before.

You'll probably get the same answers!
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:22 AM
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36. I've never flamed you!
The last time you asked I was really nice, because I genuinely like your graphics.

But I hate feeling guilty because I'm not appreciative enough.

I think you'll get better results with some creative solutions, rather than being pushy and guilt-inducing.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:24 AM
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37. I Have Made Improvements To The Way I Do Things Based On Prevous Comments
Edited on Thu Jul-28-05 08:25 AM by DistressedAmerican
My graphics are better for it. The way they are presented (in terms of file compression, etc) are greatly improved.

Pardon me for thinking I may get some useful info. Didn't realize I was going to cause anyone guilt.
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SheepyMcSheepster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:27 AM
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39. my sentiments as well.
I hate feeling guilty because I'm not appreciative enough.

I think you'll get better results with some creative solutions, rather than being pushy and guilt-inducing.
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Beaver Tail Donating Member (903 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:04 AM
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26. Because Pics tend to drag out emotions
Edited on Thu Jul-28-05 08:07 AM by Beaver Tail
I try to use facts and logic and not let my emotions get invloved (although that doesn't always seem to work).
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:07 AM
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27. nature of the beast...in a way.
I think the graphic or political cartoon is "hot" media -- that is, by nature it is driving at a conclusion, its close-ended. This is different from other types of art which invite interpretation. Political art has a very clear and uninterpretable message. Therefore, it does not easily invite interpretation or analysis. And that's ok, it would be unsucessful as political art if it was ambiguous.

But because of that, it is difficult to respond to...you either have to say "great!" which is a bit uncomfortable to do a lot of (note that not many text threads have people saying "great post", except those which are "hot" and drive to a conclusion. The ones that are more open ended and invite discussion survive longer, but have less people saying "great post".)

Also, art is subjective. Not everyone likes every work of art equally. People who don't like the work usually don't go out of their way to comment. In that way, they are being silently supportive, I suppose. And, people know that artists can sometimes be sensitive about their "babies" or creative works. Therefore, even if they had some discussion about the content of the work, or the issue, they're uncomfortable bringing it up for fear of offending the artist unnecessarily.

Or, there's people who are graphic artists by profession, like me, and feel a little awkward about giving high fives to other artists without getting into technical discussion that would bore other viewers. Also, I have always had a problem with lauding or critiquing work, as I tend to be overly honest in my assessment, since that's what I"D prefer, so I could learn something, but I find that there are many artists who when they ask your opinion of their work, only want to hear praise and get defensive if its anything but praise, and I find that awkward so I rarely go there.

However, you make a good point, so I will endeaver to comment in more graphic threads with at least an "atta-gender unspecific personage".

:)
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:12 AM
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31. That Is A Pretty Interesting Assessment. Hadn't Really Thought Of That!
I guess I really don't leave much to say but "yes or no" a lot of times.

I do frequently try to open the door with some additional text with some more open ended points. I've been doing more of that lately.

Thanks for getting back to me.
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:08 AM
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29. I misunderstood "WARNING GRAPHIC" to mean that it contained disturbing
images, such as war zone photos. I generally stay away from these becasue I already know what we are doing in Iraq and don't need to have my day ruined by the image of a chile with his legs blown off. I'm betting that a lot of people don't go to your threads for this very reason.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:14 AM
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34. Fair Enough. I Usually Use "Disturbing" If It Has That Kind Of Content.
I'll be careful in future.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:10 AM
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30. lets make a deal.....
The Cspan and BookTV threads get few responses too.

I'll kick you, and you kick us. :P

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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:13 AM
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32. DONE AND DONE! I'll Keep An Eye Out!
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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:14 AM
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33. I'll give you your props...
I have taken for granted the work I have seen you do which I have enjoyed on Bartcop before I found DU. I've gotten many a chuckle from your work, don't think it is unappreciated. I'd kick it, but apparently I haven't earned my kicking stripes yet.

Anybody know how many posts before someone can nominate?
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:17 AM
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35. Well corkhead, Welcome To DU.
Your last question is a myster to all but the mods. It is like the secret recepie or something! If they told you, they would have to kill you. I think you are close though.

:toast:
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 09:01 AM
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41. graphic artists are a highlight of DU
What lerkfish said. Good assessment. But I think we should perhaps consider a fostering a culture of commenting on graphics here at DU and here's why:

a) I've introduced a number of new people to DU and their first reaction is, "Wild! Those graphics are amazing,"and they tell me the reason they return is not just for the good information here, but to see more of the graphics.

b) It is a lot of work and effort to produce these graphics and the artist deserves some comment and feedback. I'll be doing more of that in the future.

c) Pictures ARE important. Anyone who has read John Berger's "Ways of Seeing" knows the graphic impact comes before words.

Also, re lerkfish's comment about being reluctant to get into a technical discussion, perhaps a thread could be devoted to the finer points in the graphic artists' forum.

Thanks for bringing this up. I've never seen you ask for feedback before and quite frankly, am disgusted with those seemed to think you shouldn't. It's their psychological problem if they feel "unappreciative." Don't let anybody put that monkey on your back.

Asking for feedback is a good thing. I once read a book that described the habits of the most intelligent people and asking for feedback was one of them.

The talent of graphic artists is one of DU's most treasured elements. Let's applaud and encourage them all we can.


Cher
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 09:32 AM
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42. I'm not sure what this thread is about...but...
Edited on Thu Jul-28-05 09:33 AM by TheGoldenRule
Just wanted to say that I like the * Skull & Bones-it's great on several levels. Keep up the good work! :)

DU just wouldn't be the same place without the fantastic art work we get to enjoy on a daily basis. I doubt I would enjoy coming here as much without you Distressed American, Mopaul, Swamp Rat and others who enhance this site with riveting and profound art.

Kudos to you all! :applause:
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 11:03 AM
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43. I love the original work on this site!
There is some great stuff here! I'm happy to kick a thread when I see something I like, thanks for suggesting that.

I've saved several graphics to my hard drive. Is that bad? I don't use them except on occasion - like in a Print Shop greeting card - usually to my sister. It would be nice to have a DU gallery.

Kudos to all of you!
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 11:22 AM
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45. Speaking For Myself, I Say Help Yourself. It Is About The Message!
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jarnocan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 02:02 PM
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46. I book marked D.A's page
and every so often post your link in a political joke thread and elsewhere when relavant to topic. Then hope folks will peruse more- also Care2.com has anti- Bush and anti- war photo chains, OK if I put 1 every so often and then a link :) with credit of course- like you said get the word out.
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