Christian Publisher Pans Potter, Presents Bible-Based Comic Alternative

[Kelvin Mace]

http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/7/222005f.asp

The publisher of the "Truth for Youth" Bible is addressing the dangers of the Harry Potter book series with a new, youth-targeted resource -- a scripture-based comic book.

Tim Todd Ministries, headed by the son of the president and founder of Revival Fires International, is a multi-faceted evangelistic outreach involved in spreading the gospel, conducting revival services, and ministering to the entire family, including young people. That is one reason why Tim designed and developed the Truth for Youth Bible, a complete New Testament that also includes comic stories dealing with the truth about such topics as school violence, sex, pornography, abortion, drug and alcohol abuse, and peer pressure.

Many people, including some Christian parents and even a number of Christian writers and cultural commentators, claim this best-selling series by British author J.K. Rowling is harmless and even contains some morally positive messages. Meanwhile, Christian author Connie Neal has written a book called The Gospel According to Harry Potter, in which she contends that the sorcery so many Christians condemn in Harry Potter is only a literary device and that the books contain biblical messages that can be used to teach children about good and evil.

But Tim Todd protests that Christians who believe these wildly successful children's books about witchcraft and sorcery are really Christian allegories are being led astray. And in hopes of disabusing kids and adults alike, he is offering an entertaining, biblically sound alternative to Harry Potter in comic book form called Harry Polarity and the Sinister Sorcery Satire.

[Cha]

1. Christ is a Liberal..so

spread that..tim todd.

[XemaSab]

2. I'm a big Harry Potter fan

but I agree, the part where Harry, Ron, and Hermione sacrifice Professor Flitwick in a Satanic Orgy at the end of book 6 was a little over the top.

The Christian Right is correct about this: Harry Potter is a weak pretense to lure children into Satanism and underage sex.

[Shadder]

3. What satanic orgy?

Somehow I must have missed that in the twoi times that I've read the book so far.

[XemaSab]

6. Pages

417-498.

I can't believe you missed that part.

[Shadder]

7. Your making this up, right?

He dies on page 596

[aquart]

20. No spoilers, DAMMIT!!!

[Kelvin Mace]

49. You don't want to know

that Draco is really having a three-way with Crabbe & Goyle?

It is right there on page 419¾'s.

[booksenkatz]

35. Goddamn it, if that's true, I'm going to be so fucking angry with you

NO SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:grr:

[Tux]

16. Er

I thought that is when they had the orgy in their dorms. Odd.

[XemaSab]

17. Dude, you are not a true Harry Potter fan!

They have the orgy in their dorms in order to invoke Satan!

[Pithy Cherub]

29. Have the HP Deluxe Edition! It has how-to pictures...

:rofl: XemaSab, you are priceless!

[nookiemonster]

36. Isn't that in the "pop up" section of the book?

ooooohhhhhh

LOL

[Throckmorton]

37. That part is printed on Magic Paper,

You have to use the revealio spell and your wand to see it.

Jesus is coming, and boy is he pissed!!!

Now I have to go back to conjuring up devils, have a nice day.

Ever wonder why I have Black Cats? Both of mine are part Kneezel.

[Kelvin Mace]

46. Right after the part where

Dumbledore beats the puppy to death with a kitten to show Harry the joys of murder.

[intheflow]

You forgot to give the spoiler disclaimer!

:spank:

[XemaSab]

8. Ow! You're right!

I need to go lash myself into stir-fry pieces like Hagrid does on page 274.

[Shadder]

10. Interesting

Hagrid is not even mentioned on page 274.

[XemaSab]

13. Yeah he is...

He's lashing himself with a cat o' nine tails in penance for introducing Malfoy to the joys of homosexual love. He whips himself so hard that all the blood starts running down his back and it pools onto the floor and spells out

:sarcasm:

[jobycom]

24. May I say that you are

on a roll tonight? It's a thing of beauty!

[Kelvin Mace]

47. You don't have the Double Super Secret Edition

for underage Satan Worshipper's.

[Verve]

12. Don't forget butter beer!

:toast:

[XemaSab]

14. And mead.

And firewhiskey.

And Madam Rosmerta.

:D

[jobycom]

23. Oh, c;mon, that was a beautiful metaphor, not a literal orgy!

It was meant to demonstrate the loving beauty of Satanic worship, not to get kids sexually aroused. Although that scene where McGonagal transfigured into a nymph-demon and went skinny-dipping with Neville was as erotic as it was touching....

[StaggerLee]

4. Why do I have this sneaking suspicion

That this alternative comic book is going to suck?

[PurityOfEssence]

5. Goody two-shoes "art" is always crap

It's made by the third-rate because they can't hack it in the real world. The cringing need to control one's children and make sure they swallow the family fantasy must be a hellish fixation.

[VegasWolf]

9. This clown planning to have a comic book alternative to Santa and Jesus

too?

on edit

Sorry forgot the Easter Bunny too.

[Kelvin Mace]

50. his clown is looking to make

BIG bucks trading on Rowling's work.

[Verve]

11. These Christian radicals are really something.

I talked to one who home schools. (Actually don't they all. They don't want their children becoming tainted.) Anyway, we started talking about children's books and she said they've read all the CS Lewis Narnia books. She found this series mirrored biblical stories and it was a great religious teaching avenue.

When I asked if they had read the Harry Potter books she looked horrified. She explained she didn't allow witchcraft and devil like horror books into her household. By then I had had it and got into a heavy debate about Harry Potter. It wasn't pretty.

These right winged fanatics shouldn't be judging something they've never read. Yet, isn't that how they operate. Judging a book by the cover, not the contents. Isn't that how they judge gay people and other minorities? Thank God, I didn't get on that topic with her!

[KnightoftheRepublic]

22. How ironic

Aren't the narnia books full of magic? The animals talk for Pete's sake. weirdo.

[ticapnews]

25. Talking animals...talking shrubbery...

It's all good.

I just wonder what substance (and how much) you have to take to think a bush is on fire and saying anything other than, "Got any water?"

Personally, I blame The Onion for all this... :P

[Verve]

43. My thought exactly! That's why I naively assumed she had read Harry P.

The Narnia books must have "bible magic" which I guess is different than plain old magic?? Who knew?

BTW, I liked the C.S. Lewis books when I was a kid but now that I know they are a teaching avenue for Christian Radicals, the books put a sour taste in my mouth.

Poor C.S. Lewis. He's probably rolling over in his grave!

[Kelvin Mace]

51. Hey, they hate

C.S. Lewis too.

[getmeouttahere]

15. Hey Tim Todd, can you say BORING!!!

As Billy Bob Thornton's Bad Santa says

"the story sucks anyway"

[KDLarsen]

18. Well, with that last name, who can blame me for posting this

[XemaSab]

19. Oh yes...

Hey, did you see the episode the other night where they sacrificed Smithers in a Satanic Orgy?

[KDLarsen]

45. I'm afraid not..

.. Denmark is still stuck somewhere in season 4 or 5 (they go up to season 13 or 14 before starting over), and I'm out of space on my PC to download the episodes.

[jobycom]

21. Ah, you gotta love 'em, poor little stupid fools.

Wishing with all their little heart-like organs that they, too, had an ounce of creativity or originality, and trying their hardest to substitute more repitition of the one book they can almost read for something approaching art. Bless their little soul-less bodies.

[Erika]

26. The Christian radicals are not of this planet

They are going to introduce comic book scriptures as as alternative to Harry Potter? That is truly rich.

No wonder they need tax exemptions to stay in business. They couldn't otherwise.

Harry Potter is the classic good will overcome evil if the good is very good. But I guess the new Pope has trouble with Harry Potter also.

[DanCa]

27. so basically this is a rehash of samson and hercules?

And what the romans did to the greeks? Take someones culture and convert it to thier own.

[Gelliebeans]

28. I hope J.K. Rowling

sells an extra 10k copies from the publicity of "Mr.Tim Todd the fuckwad". Have I said how much I hate these people?

[dhinojosa]

30. LMAO! HAIRY POLARITY?!??!?!

Sounds like a bisexual bear (and when I say bear I don't mean the animal)

[Nevernose]

31. demonic possesion...blood/animal sacrifices...boiling a baby alive..."

Maybe this guy's been reading a different version?

"The things that concern me about the Harry Potter series," the preacher and Christian publisher notes, "are things like sacrificing animals and emphasizing power, regardless of good or evil. Or offering up blood sacrifices, and things like boiling what seems to be a baby alive in a cauldron, or being possessed by demons -- these are not things that we want to have our children subjected to."

[LeftyMom]

32. Well, I guess one could stretch what happened to Ginny

back in Chamber of Secrets as demonic posession, although it's a bit of a stretch to call Voldemort a demon.

[keroro gunsou]

42. also...

What Voldythingy did to Harry at the end of Order of the Phoenix, using the connection they share to take him over and ask Dumbledore to kill Harry.

Hardly Demonic possession, as Voldythingy has his old body back, and never was a demon in the first place.

at least the moroff that wants to rail against the ebuls of HP has at least made a token effort to read, though mis-interpret, the books... though I suspect he's getting the info second or third hand...

(moroff, too stupid to be a moron...)

[Demeter]

39. That "Baby" Was the Evil Lord Voldemort, for God's Sake!

and he was being regenerated, not boiled. With Dark Magic, no less. These people can't even read plain text, what makes them think they can understand poetic imagery, followed through multiple tanslations of language and culture?

[B3Nut]

44. Sacrificing animals?

I've read all 6, and I'm evangelical btw, and I don't recall anything remoteley resembling animal sacrifices. But fundies don't want to be bothered with actually having to research those things for themselves, that requires effort and frankly they're too dagblasted intellectually lazy, or fearful, or both. The fundamentalist existence is a sorry, pathetic caricature of life...so much richness and beauty in the arts to be enjoyed, things that can be gleaned from even so-called "secular" art that can be used as discussion jumping-off points if you like...and they hide from it. And the "art" they come up with is so vapid and uninspired it's a mockery of creativity.

And fundies keep telling me my rock'n'roll is for the devil, so they need to go byebye. :D (Todd clutches his Hammond and his electric gee-tars defiantly hehehehehe)

Harry Potter r0x0rs. :D

Todd in Beerbratistan, solemnly swearing he's up to...well...uh...

[Kelvin Mace]

52. The boiling a "baby"

remark refers to the Mandrake root in CoS. The "blood sacrifice" overlooks the fact that it is the BAD guys doing this. "Possesion" I guess refers to Quirel in the first book. I have no clue where they get "sacrificing animals" from.

[CJCRANE]

33. But doesn't the Old Testament contain

rape, violence, genocide, monsters and other horrors?

What about Revelations, with the seven-headed dragon and the Whore of Babylon?

[Kelvin Mace]

53. And it approves

of child murder and incest.

[dethl]

34. You can pry my copy of HP6 out of my cold, dead hands.

But Todd points out that these books also expose children to a world without any belief in God, where sorcery and witchcraft are presented as a neutral path, good and viable in the right hands

I guess these fundies need to look at a lot of stuff their kids read. Hell, I remember back when I watched the Goosebumps series come out. There wasn't anything with God in it, but hell, it had basically the same effect: kids read more, and that was it (ok, they made a show, and it was horrible). And what about schoolbooks? I know they've been trying to get stuff thrown into Biology books for years, and my high school even tried to make me read the Bible as MANDATORY summer reading before my sophmore year.

[Dogmudgeon]

38. Conjuring up evil spirits?

That's so 1977.

Now, conjuring up hot goth chicks, that rulezzz.

--p!

[keroro gunsou]

40. i will never want for amusement...

so long as fundie nutcases like this exist.

My aunt who's a major holy-roller, anti-HP, anti-video game, anti-anything I remotely consider fun, decided to treat me to a rant against HP and all that it stands for. At one point in the rant, I decided to actually listen and heard her mutter something about how un-christian the material is, and I told her that it was written by an Anglican and she should StFU.

The confused look on her face was worth it.

HP isn't even written by one of her "good christian women." Oh the shock, the irony.... :sarcasm:

Anyhow, anything that makes kids want to read, I'm all for it. I guess them bible-beaters do want to keep their kids ignorant. If you can make a kid hate to read, you doom them to a life of ignorance and dependance on the media to inform them. Which I suppose makes them good little Republican voters....

[BiggJawn]

41. Sometimes a Book is just Entertainment....

Some of these fundies are wrapped a little too tight. They see "demons" behind every tree and rock, Atheists want to steal their souls for our "master" Satan (hey, he's YOUR problem, not MINE!)

Bet these burn-outs go "Praise JEEEBUS!" when they belch or refer to taking a shit as "Gittin' th' Devil outta me"....

[GreenPartyVoter]

48. I just laugh at my fundagelical counterparts. They miss SO much

in life because they live in little tiny "safe" pigeon holes.

[MadAsHellNewYorker]

54. I just don't get it: They celebrate CHRISTMAS in the HP Series

I mean, they make it clear that the witches and wizards are christian. They never say anything against G-d, they celebrate Christmas at Hogwarts. Its a fantasy story, how could it be anti-g-d? Just because there is witchcraft, it nullifies all the references to them being christian? I mean, ultimately there really isn't any religion the book, how do they make this jump to satan just because of witchcraft?!?!?!

[BiggJawn]

55. Exodus 22:18

"Thou shalt NOT suffer a Witch to live."