Larry Johnson on Franken suggests they look at Bolton

[eleny]

He said that Bolton had a CIA agent assigned to his area. This regarding the Plame leak.

Johnson also called Toensing and Medved's recent assertions on tv about Valerie Plame-Wilson not being undercover as "stupid". He said that he and his colleagues would like to get them in a room and show them some anger.

[Cocoa]

1. Carl Ford Jr.

Ford was the guy that called Bolton a "kiss up, kick down guy."

Now Ford turns up as the person who requested the State Dept. memo about Plame.

[Norquist Nemesis]

3. I had not seen it was Ford

I read he was head of a group who did research on the report, but that it was requested by the State Dept. to his area. Being the head of it, he would have assigned it. That's where Bolton comes in.

Am I confusing reports?

[Cocoa]

5. Ford was in the State Dept.

in a faction that did not like Bolton. That faction apparently included almost all of the State Dept.

[Norquist Nemesis]

7. LOL!

Sorry...it's funny that Bolton's "friends" seem to be limited. His "supporters" are all yes-sir! partisan politicians and whackos of the extreme-wing.

Thanks for the clarification. :)

[qanda]

8. I posted this on another thread, but I'll post it here also

Carl Ford was John Kokal's boss. John Kokal met an untimely fate about a week after the memo was reported in the Wall Street Journal.

[Cocoa]

9. was Kokal the guy that fell out of the window?

:scared:

[qanda]

10. That would be the one

He was found with no shoes on. Don't even ask me what that was supposed to mean.

[Sydnie]

11. I missed this story - do you have a link pelase?

I hate when I miss a piece of the puzzle like this. Thanks.

[seemslikeadream]

14. Was Bolton behind death of State Department official?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3525714

[Sydnie]

21. I did miss that story - thanks for the link

These smarmy bastards - each and every one of them need to be removed and made to answer to their crimes.

[in_cog_ni_to]

18. OMG!

The Plame leak is connected to that 'suicided' man? Ford was his BOSS? Holy shit. Damn. damn. damn. Was he going to blow the whistle on these bastards? :scared: I wonder if Fitzgerald has made this connection?

[blm]

17. Maybe Ford WANTED to say Bolton is a Kiss up - Throwdissentersoutwindows

kinda guy.

[HereSince1628]

2. Abosolutely, they need to look at him

Bolton's portfolio and what we know of Plame's CIA group's mission they certainly overlap. And Bolton's Hawkish, vengeful approach to getting his way is certainly consistent with what happened to Plame.

[Booster]

13. We also need to look at Bolton's stock portfolio and see how

many shares of Halliburton stock he has.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

4. I was saying this months ago.

Which says more about Idiot Savantism than anything else. ;-)

[IthinkThereforeIAM]

6. Bolton was intercepting/reading...

... National Security Agency messages, for which he requested permission from the NSC three times, with Condosleeza finally allowing it after the third meeting. This while he was an undersecretary at the State Department.

[AX10]

12. It would make sense that Bolten was involved.

[flyarm]

15. this is an old article i had in my files about john kokal

mods this article is too old to link!!

there were hardly any articles about it when this happened..but shortly after this another death occured at the un that was hardly reported!!
i am checking through my files for any other articles on this..
i have extensive files!!
fly




State Dept Worker Found Dead Outside Agency; "worked in a unit that dealt with intelligence and research." 11/9


State Dept. Worker Found Dead Outside Agency

Saturday, November 08, 2003



WASHINGTON — A State Department (search) employee was found dead outside the agency headquarters in Washington, D.C., Friday around 5 p.m., Fox News has confirmed.

State Department sources told The Washington Post that John Kokal (search) worked in a unit that dealt with intelligence and research. Sources said he handled classified documents regularly but was not involved in intelligence analysis.

Police said the official cause and manner of death is to be determined by the D.C. medical examiner, the Post reported.

Fox News has confirmed that Kokal, 58, did work for the State Department Intelligence and Research Bureau (search), but has not yet confirmed that the body is that of Kokal.

Fire Department Spokesman Alan Etter said the man, a white male, was wearing a dress shirt, tie and slacks, but was not wearing shoes nor a suit jacket. He was found lying in the bottom of a concrete window well near 23rd and D streets, about eight stories below the top of the building. The well drops about 20 feet from ground level.

The department is in the Foggy Bottom (search) neighborhood of the District of Columbia.

It was not yet known whether the employee jumped or fell. Firemen told Fox News that the D.C. police were handling the investigation and that the death could possibly be a homicide and that the body would not be immediately removed.

Fox News' Teri Schultz contributed to this report.

[flyarm]

16. another old article about John J. Kokal

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/112003_kokal.html


snip:

MYSTERY SURROUNDS DEATH

OF STATE DEPT. OFFICIAL

by Wayne Madsen
(special to From The Wilderness)

© Copyright 2003, From The Wilderness Publications, www.copvcia.com. All Rights Reserved. May be reprinted, distributed or posted on an Internet web site for non-profit purposes only.

November 20, 2003 (FTW), WASHINGTON -- In a case eerily reminiscent of the death of British Ministry of Defense bio-weapons expert, Dr. David Kelly, an official of the State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research Near East and South Asian division (INR/NESA), John J. Kokal, 58, was found dead in the late afternoon of November 7. Police indicated he may have jumped from the roof of the State Department. Kokal's body was found at the bottom of a 20 foot window well, 8 floors below the roof of the State Department headquarters near the 23rd and D Street location. Kokal's death was briefly mentioned in a FOX News website story on November 8 but has been virtually overlooked by the major media.

Interestingly, the FOX report states that State Department officials confirmed Kokal's death to The Washington Post yet the Post - according to an archive search - has published nothing at all about Kokal's death. A subsequent search revealed that the Post had made a short three-paragraph entry the death in the Metro section on November 7, 2003. However, the Post entry stated that Kokal did not work in intelligence and the story does not show up in the archives.

[flyarm]

19. then check out this...

i know its rense..but i had this in my files..

http://www.rense.com/general45/violnt.htm

Top Secret Advisor To 4 Presidents Dies 'Violently' In DC
Posted Dec 8, 2003 07:06 AM PST
Gus W. Weiss, 72, adviser to four presidents on top secret policy matters, died violently in Washington, DC, on November 25, 2003, but his death was not reported by The Washington Post until December 7, 2003, in the obitiuary section at the bottom of page C12.

[flyarm]

20. this is un death around time of the John Kokal suicide

less than a month after kokal...had this in my files!!


link no longer works mods..its too old!!

date of this is 12/1/03

Welcome to AJC!

Body Is Found Inside U.N. Headquarters

NEW YORK (AP)--A body was found inside United Nations headquarters on Monday, a U.N. spokesman said. U.N. security and the New York police department are investigating the matter.

The U.N. spokesman said the person had been shot, and that the body was discovered inside the building's third-floor lounge at about 11:30 a.m. He declined to give any details on the deceased person pending notification of the family.

The spokesman, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the world body considered the shooting an ``isolated incident.''


AP-NY-12-01-03 1433EST

Copyright 2003, The Associated Press. The information contained in the AP Online news report may not be published, broadcast or redistributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press.

[flyarm]

22. think about this ..fitzgerald could be going after

murder charges on someone in this white house..all these mysterious deaths..all around the same time..all surrounding bolton ..rove, and the lies to war!!

[AnnInLa]

23. About that recess appointment.......

Do yall think that if Bolton is in anyway involved in the leak, that idiot-boy will recess appoint him? It would be awfully embarrassing to the admin if he turns up in the middle of indictments, wouldn't it? Maybe if idiot-boy does or does not appoint Bolton would be an indication of whether there is any involvement?

Am I being too naive here?

[progressoid]

24. Makes sense...

which is difficult when dealing with this admin!!

[eleny]

25. Involvement? These days it would have to be a conviction

:hi: