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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 11:18 AM
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NEWSWEEK COVER: The World According to Karl Rove
Edited on Sun Jul-17-05 11:20 AM by truthpusher
I'm not certain how much new info is here, you never know...

from the Newsweek Press release: http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050717/nysu008.html?.v=16



NEWSWEEK COVER: The World According to Karl Rove
Sunday July 17, 12:02 pm ET
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Source Close to Rove Says He Had Been Questioned by Investigators About Conversations He May Have Had With Lewis I. 'Scooter' Libby, Chief of Staff to Cheney
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Rove Rose Using Tactics His Foes Are Turning Against Him, But He's 'The Survivor's Survivor,' Says One Political Consultant
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NEW YORK, July 17 /PRNewswire/ -- In the World According to Karl Rove, you take the offensive, and stay there. You create a narrative that glosses over complex, mitigating facts to divide the world into friends and enemies, light and darkness, good and bad, Bush versus Saddam. You use the jujitsu of media flow to flip the energy of your enemies against them. The Boss never discusses political mechanics in public. But in fact everything is political -- and everyone is fair game, writes Chief Political Correspondent Howard Fineman in the July 25 Newsweek cover, "The World According to Karl Rove" (on newsstands Monday, July 18). In a familiar Washington twist of fate, Rove's theory of politics is being turned against him -- and he is being forced to deploy the Republican machine, which he built on Bush's behalf, for a more personal task: his own defense. "The Manichean politics that Rove had perfected over three decades now threaten to engulf him, or at least render him as something less than what he has been to Bush: the mastermind of Republican hegemony," Fineman writes.

A source close to Rove told Newsweek last week that Rove "doesn't remember" where he heard the crucial information that Joe Wilson's wife, Valerie Plame, was a CIA agent working in weapons of mass destruction issues. But, the source said, Rove is "pretty sure he heard it directly or indirectly from a media source." The source close to Rove later acknowledged that Rove had been questioned by investigators about conversations he may have had with Lewis I. "Scooter" Libby, Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff. Rove couldn't recall any specific exchange with Libby about Wilson's wife, the source said.

Fineman writes that in May 2002, the State Department's intelligence unit had prepared a secret memorandum about the provenance of Joe Wilson's journey and its classified results -- including the curious fact that Wilson's wife had been involved in planning the mission, and even had suggested that her husband undertake it. Still, there had been no cause to criticize Wilson -- let alone mention his wife. But then Wilson went public, and soon enough, Rove had drawn a bead on Wilson.



complete story here: http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050717/nysu008.html?.v=16
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 11:28 AM
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1. Yeah, well, even "The survivor's survivor"
can come under the heading of "THe Bigger they are, The Harder they FALL"!!

rove leaves a MASSIVE HOLE in the sidewalk!
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 11:34 AM
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4. Bigger than that
like that giant meteor that hit the Yucatan millions of years ago, I hope Rove's fall causes the mass extinction of all Republican dinosaurs.

Future paleontologists will note the sudden end of fossil strata composed of SUVs with yellow ribbon magnets.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 11:44 AM
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6. I like the way
you think!! :toast:
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pfitz59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 11:33 AM
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2. "A reporter told me..."
What a flatulant lie! Several LTTE in Seattle Times were carbon copies of latest Rovian spin - "The Media told me." Utter BS!
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 11:49 AM
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7. I'm surprised it wasn't published as the "Liberal Media told me"!
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 12:03 PM
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11. Those LTTE's are astroturf.
The Mighty Wurlitzer of the right is infamous for flooding the media with what appears to be 'grassroots' but is actually canned artificial regurgitations of talking points.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 11:34 AM
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3. Anything that keeps the spotlight on Rove is good.
Most Joe Publics don't even know he exists. Rove is a complete slimeball and the only way he can really be effective is if he can work in the shadows behind the scenes.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 11:37 AM
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5. Exactly. This week proves his spin stops spinning when he's in the light
Edited on Sun Jul-17-05 11:38 AM by Seabiscuit
of day. His spin is full of inconsistencies, contradictions, and absurdities. IOW, very stupid and innefective LIES. And all very public. For once, he's out of his element, and his naked darkness is there for all to see.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 12:05 PM
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13. Exactly, a few of the Media feel free enough

to at least present both sides.

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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 12:24 PM
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15. Rove's nakedness --- the horror, the horror -- oh, no, I'm blind!
It's just my eyes protecting my heart.
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Merlot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 11:51 AM
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8. Working in the shadows, like the big cockroach he is...
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 11:58 AM
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9. Here's the link to Fineman's entire piece
Rove at War
He rose using tactics his foes are turning against him. But never bet against Karl Rove.


http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8600327/site/newsweek/

snip>
Beyond the legal drama, the story of the White House's response to the Wilson trip is offering the country that rarest of opportunities in the Age of Bush II: a glimpse of the inner workings of a White House under the management of Karl Rove, the most influential presidential adviser in memory. And while liberals who have long viewed Rove with fear and loathing are gleeful at his current political plight, Rove's own legions are rallying—which means, interestingly, that the harsh culture now pummeling him may in fact save him as Bush's Red soldiers take the field.
...
It's unlikely that any White House officials considered that they were doing anything illegal in going after Joe Wilson. Indeed, the line between national security and politics had long since been all but erased by the Bush administration......

:puke:
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 12:02 PM
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10. The Newsweek stories are online now!
Here's the Fineman article, but there's lots more in the package ... all online.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8600327/site/newsweek/
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 12:04 PM
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12. "Rove doesn't remember where he heard the crucial information."
Edited on Sun Jul-17-05 12:07 PM by Straight Shooter
Oh, bullshit on top of bullshit. You can bet your life that when Rove found out that juicy tidbit, he had an "Aha!" moment. That's when he knew he had the ammunition to make Joe Wilson pay (and, as a bonus, to throw a monkeywrench into the plans of those who were trying to STOP the proliferation of WMD, which is counterproductive to the ultimate bush /neocon agenda because they want to PROMOTE it).

I am also quite certain that before he learned her identity and occupation, he had called everyone in whom he knew would be willing to engage in dirty tricks, and asked them all to come up with anything and everything regarding info on Joe Wilson, his family, his friends, leave no stone unturned.

What a bunch of crap. Rove knows exactly what he heard, who told him, where he was, and what his response was at the time. Give me a break.

edit oops
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 07:19 AM
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18. These rat bastards remember every single person who ever
offended them in the slightest way. Karl Rove remembers the exact day in 1973 he met George W. Bush and exactly what Dubya was wearing (creepy). Funny how they all have such bad memories about things that might get them in trouble.
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 12:05 PM
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14. FineWhore used to have a major story on aWol published at least once a
Edited on Sun Jul-17-05 12:07 PM by dArKeR
week for years (5), often two per week. Then FineWhore predicted aWol would lose in 2004, which we're just finding out he probably legally did because of CoinGate...

Also, FineWhore started to be a guest on the Air America, the Franken show about early 2004. Made about 6-8 shows.

This has been in the back of my mind for a long time but I never posted; "Where's Whorie?"

As can be proven by fact of articles, there were very few journalist as pro aWol as Whorie! I'm sure the DUers know and remember this.


PS. As you can see, the pic MSNBC publishes in Whorie's BIO looks about 20 years ago.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 12:34 PM
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16. Rove is real maggot, one of the most corrupt, vile "persons" in American
Edited on Sun Jul-17-05 12:35 PM by Zorra
history.

Now he is using the "Reagan Defense", the last refuge of a republican when they are brought to justice and their evil deeds are exposed in the light:

"I don't recall"

Rove and the rest of the republican corporatist slime make me sick.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 01:41 PM
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17. One of Rove's most loyal whores puts him "under the microscope"
These people really are shameless, and Whoreward Fineman is probably the worst of the bunch.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 07:32 AM
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19. Here's My Favorite Line In The Whole Piece!
"Rove took foreign-policy cues from the pro-war coterie that surrounded the vice president, and was personally and operationally close to Cheney's chief of staff, Lewis (Scooter) Libby."

Lets make it a Karl/Dick Twofer!
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