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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 03:48 PM
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Does the White House have connections to the Yellowcake Forged Document?
Edited on Thu Jul-14-05 03:49 PM by Lex
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Is that what caused the "unanticipated shift" in the grand jury's inquiry? Did the grand jury learn something about who ordered that forgery in its Plame leak investigation? This could tie into the DSM about the intel being intentionally cooked.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellowcake_Forgery

"Soon thereafter, the documents became generally accepted by the press as falsified.

In July 2003, conservative commentator Patrick Buchanan stated, "The truth now, we know, is that a forgery was put together to get this country into a war with Iraq, that forgery found its way into our intelligence agencies, it found its way into the State of the Union, and the president of the United States should show more indignation and outrage that this was done." Buchanan added, "Somebody in our own government knew very well that was a forgery, and they advanced it on up the line." <2>

It is as yet unknown how Italian intelligence came by the documents and why they were not given directly to the U.S. In 2005, Vincent Cannistaro, the former head of counterterrorism operations at the CIA and the intelligence director at the National Security Council under Ronald Reagan, expressed the opinion that the documents had been produced in the United States and funneled through the Italians . . ."


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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 03:49 PM
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1. Now that would be interesting, wouldn't it? n/t
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 03:51 PM
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2. Yes
Hint

Halliburton


AMERICAN JUDAS -THE SELLING OF THE SECURITY OF AMERICAN & THE WORLD FOR 30 PIECES OF SILVER = Part 1

By Robert Paulsen & the DU Plame Think-Tank
http://wherearetheweapons.blogspot.com/2004/08/american-judas-selling-of-security-of.html
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 03:58 PM
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7. It could help explain why Fitzgerald is taking this so seriously. nt


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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 04:01 PM
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9. There is someone else that has been investigating Halliburton
His name is Jack Shaw. PNAC tried to smear him also.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 03:51 PM
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3. Where did you learn there had been an "unanticipated shift?"
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 03:53 PM
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5. Here:
Edited on Thu Jul-14-05 03:54 PM by Lex
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4101461&mesg_id=4101461

"The ex parte affidavit establishes that the government's focus has shifted as it has acquired additional information during the course of the investigation.


"Special Counsel now needs to pursue different avenues in order to complete its investigation." Judge Hogan concluded that "the subpoenas were not issued in an attempt to harass the reporters, but rather stem from legitimate needs due to an unanticipated shift in the grand jury's investigation."


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Talismom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 03:51 PM
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4. Oh man! This could really be an earthquake! n/t
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 03:56 PM
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6. Yes, until now we've been guessing the "unanticipated shift"
Edited on Thu Jul-14-05 03:59 PM by Jersey Devil
in the investigation mentioned by the court when ordering the reporters to testify and reveal their sources referred to a possible perjury charge. Of course it is all speculation at this point, but it could mean something entirely different. Such a charge would be treason without a doubt, the falsification of intel that led to war and thousands of deaths.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 04:00 PM
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8. Of course! (sheesh!) Take a look-see at the Italian Connection.
Edited on Thu Jul-14-05 04:00 PM by TahitiNut
Judith Miller is a Chalabi cohort. The White House WHIG neocons sponsored the creation of the Yellowcake Fraud, tried to launder it through a 'cell' of the compartmentalized Italian intelligence, and use it to put the plastic image of a mushroom cloud on the top of the fecal wedding cake of invasion and occupation of Iraq.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 04:07 PM
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10. Sorry, Vince. There's a more likely author for those docs. And
it's linked to the same source that was swapping documents with Lawrence Franklin. By the way, Franklin goes on trial in September and his indictment contains the little-reported allegation that he was involved in two-way exchange with Israeli intelligence, and that Franklin was salting DoD files with materials about Iranian WMD provided by the Israelis.

Ms. Miller is also known to have contacts with Mossad. Could she have been a conduit to the VP's office through OSP and the Feith cell? The WashPo reported that Fitz's investigators state that she had an active role in speading Plame's identity, for which they are considering criminal charges.

One might think Plamegate is more than just a domestic political vendetta?

See, http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=85378;title=APFN
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 04:13 PM
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11. Interesting.
It is clear at this point that Fitzgerald and the grand jury isn't solely interested in who leaked Plame's name.

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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 04:22 PM
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12. Sorry, that link isn't working. Here's the text:
Edited on Thu Jul-14-05 04:24 PM by leveymg
Note to Mod - posted by author

OSP-AIPAC SPY CASE REVEALS ISRAELI PLOT
Wed Jun 15, 2005 14:39
64.140.158.199


OSP-AIPAC SPY CASE REVEALS ISRAELI PLOT TO PLANT IRAN WMD DATA

Wed Jun 15th, 2005 at 09:17:06 PDT

Details revealed yesterday in the indictment against accused Pentagon spy Larry Franklin implicate Israel in a plot to illegally influence United States policy toward Iran. Counts in the indictment show that the Franklin prosecution is not a conventional spy case involving the passing of documents to a foreign agent. Instead, it appears that the OSP-AIPAC espionage conspiracy involved efforts by Israel to use American neocons to "cook the books" on Iranian WMDs, much as occurred earlier with false documents fed to the Bush Administration to justify the March 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq.

Published details about the indictment unsealed yesterday against Franklin show that the FBI busted up a plot by an Israeli intelligence officer and two AIPAC lobbyists to advance the career of Franklin, get him "by the elbow of the President", and to plant information provided by Mossad in Pentagon documents about Iran.

The following article in the New York Sun was linked in Laura Rozen's blog, WarandPiececom. Rozen is a well-informed spectator on the emerging spy case. That case confims that the FBI has been investigating long-suspected espionage activities in the United States of persons associated with Israel's ruling Likud government. The indictment shows that Frankin, who was the Iran desk officer within Douglas Feith's now disbanded Pentagon policy office, secretly conspired with a contact at the Israeli Embassy to influence U.S. policy concerning an alleged Iranian nuclear weapons program. Rozen describes the article below as "the most comprehensive take I've seen on the unsealed Frankin indictment". See, in particular, the bottom five paragraphs in the report.

Details of a Plot Unveiled in Case Against Franklin

BY ELI LAKE - Staff Reporter of the Sun
June 14, 2005
URL: http://www.nysun.com/article/15374


SNIP

The grand jury's indictment charges Mr. Franklin, who has served as a desk officer on Iran at the Office of the Secretary of Defense, with six counts, including mishandling classified information, communicating defense information to individuals not authorized to receive it, and, most serious, "a conspiracy to communicate classified information to agent and representative of a foreign government, without specific authorization."

SNIP

The 20-page indictment filed initially on May 26, 2005, in the U.S. district court of Alexandria, Va., details meetings Mr. Franklin had with two unindicted co-conspirators, not named in the court document but widely known to be Messrs. Rosen and Weissman. The indictment also describes a series of meetings with a foreign official, also widely known to be the
Israeli Embassy's chief political officer, Naor Gilon. Mr. Gilon remains to this day the embassy's point of contact with the Bush administration on Iran policy.



Despite a wealth of fresh details on the dates, times, and locations of those conversations, the indictment is vague on exactly what Mr. Franklin is alleged to have passed on to the Israelis and the lobbyists. For example, it refers to conversations about a "certain Middle Eastern country," widely known to be Iran. The indictment says that Mr. Franklin faxed one of the lobbyists a "classified appendix to the classified draft internal policy document defendant had previously discussed" with the two
lobbyists.

One source familiar with the document described it as a "list of horribles about Iran. The sorts of things most people knew already, such as Iran's sponsorship of Hezbollah." Mr. Franklin's attorney last month said the document did not contain classified material.



The indictment states that Mr. Franklin tried to enlist Mr. Rosen's help in getting him a job at the National Security Council. Mr. Rosen, referred to as co-conspirator 1, said on February 14, 2003, that he would see what he could do to get Mr. Franklin a job "by the elbow of the president."

That incident stands out because Mr. Franklin's defenders have said that Mr. Franklin sought out the two Aipac lobbyists in order to get threat information to the White House.

The indictment also alleges that Mr. Gilon may have influenced Mr. Franklin's work. In a meeting on May 23, 2003, at the Pentagon Officer's Athletic Club, Messrs. Franklin and Gilon, who was referred to in the indictment as "FO," for foreign official, discussed European views on Iran - referred to as the "Middle Eastern country" - and its nuclear program.

Following the meeting, the indictment says Mr. Franklin drafted an action memo to his superiors "incorporating suggestions made by the FO during the meeting."

All told, the indictment lists 14 times between August 15, 2002, and June 23, 2004, that Mr. Franklin met with Mr. Gilon. The frequency of the meetings and phone calls suggests that Mr. Franklin did not need Messrs. Rosen and Weissman to reach the government of Israel.



- Mark G. Levey


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Larry Franklin's indictment made public
Jerusalem Post, Israel - Jun 13, 2005
Pentagon analyst Larry Franklin has been indicted on charges he leaked classified military information to employees of AIPAC, according to court papers made ...
Charges against Pentagon spy revealed ISN
Brosh: US seeks business advantage over Israel Globes Online
Pentagon official indicted for leaking classified info to AIPAC Ha'aretz
Ha'aretz - Antiwar.com -
all 173 related »





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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 04:39 PM
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13. Thanks.
I thought it was just my computer being weird.

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MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 06:26 PM
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14. Take it as you will...
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