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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 03:25 PM
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Bush Urges Less Global Oil Use, as US Guzzles It
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http://www.planetark.com/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/31571/story.htm

Bush Urges Less Global Oil Use, as US Guzzles It

USA: July 8, 2005


WASHINGTON - While President George W. Bush is urging nations to use less oil, his administration has opposed major increases in US vehicle fuel standards that could save millions of barrels of oil a year and reduce carbon dioxide emissions.


Speaking on Wednesday as the leaders of the major industrialized countries traveled to Scotland for a Group of Eight meeting, Bush said nations should develop alternative energy sources to oil and natural gas to help control global warming.
Climate change is a top issue at the G8 meeting. The United States, the world's largest oil consumer and the biggest spewer of total carbon dioxide emissions that heat the atmosphere, is the only one of the countries at the summit not to have signed the Kyoto treaty to cut carbon dioxide emissions.

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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 03:26 PM
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1. More double-speak?
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Tamarin Donating Member (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 03:28 PM
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2. More empty rhetoric. eom
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 03:33 PM
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3. Straight from an empty head
nt
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 05:18 PM
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15. he certainly knows full well
he can spew any bull Rove comes up with and get away with it.
but those days are numbered IMO

Most of the world knows he is a liar and well over half America does too. That really doesn't leave many 'believers'.
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BushFungus Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 03:35 PM
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4. Ummmm
It's hypocrisy. You know, I had an interesting conversation with some people over on the Rapture Ready board as to whether conservatives or liberals own gas-guzzling SUVs. Remember, this is a very conservative board. They were CONVINCED that it was those "evil liberals" and them alone who owned gas-guzzling SUVs!

It couldn't be further from the truth. I tried to tell them, now how in the WORLD down here in the Bible Belt where I live do so many "liberals" own SUVs? At my church it's SUV after SUV. Still, they were convinced that the ownership of SUVs was a partisan Damocratic issue. Geesh, some people!!
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justinsb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 03:36 PM
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5. Fortunately it won't be an issue for long
With China, India and Brazil demanding more and more oil, and Venezuela and Canada using more of our own supply (Canada is now your largest supplier). Conservation will soon be forced on people as oil is priced out of their range. When Gasoline hits $4-5 a gallon there will be little need to tell them to conserve.
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BushFungus Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 03:43 PM
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7. Chaos?
I cannot imagine the implications of this. Our major cities are so expensive for housing nowadays, you need to live WAY out in the 'burbs and commute in. City prices are just too outrageous. Many people have SUVs and commute an average of what, probably 1-1/2 hours each way. The rat race is partly what prompted us to move to a more reasonable Southern city.

What would happen if gas was suddenly too expensive? The demographics would be forced back into the city, you would think - but then, who will be able to afford it? Will it become a nation of mostly poor, and a few wealthy? Just a few who could even afford to come into the city to work?

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justinsb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 03:51 PM
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11. It will be difficult no doubt
but it's coming, and not just gas. Most things made of rubber and plastic are currently made from fossil fuels, as are most modern fertilizers and pesticides. The price of everything is going to go up along with gasoline (including food).

The problems the world, and even the US are currently facing are not limited to the Bush administration and nothing John Kerry said convinced me that he even understood the problems, much less had solutions for them. This is where we are heading. Everyone in the world is facing it at the same time and major changes are going to come - ready or not.
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bj2110 Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 03:56 PM
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12. Bingo... we are on our wa to a new style feudalism, with even more
discrepancy between the very few wealthy and the very abundant poor.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 09:12 AM
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17. and WATER is next
as multinationals scramble to privatize water.

it won't be a pretty thing
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 03:37 PM
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6. "Ya'll use less...leave more for us rich, white people, or else.."
"All options are on the table. We'll invade, daisy chain, smart bomb, depleted Uranium, F-18, and/or black ops your asses back into the stick age."
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 03:48 PM
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8. Do you hate America?
If we get more countries to conserve, then that will leave more for us and larger SUV's. Beside Cheney says real men don't conserve.

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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 03:49 PM
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9. When he comes back here he talks out of a different side of his mouth
The American way of life is non-negotiable. The world will burn to put gas in our SUVs so we can motor around in our suburbs and drive to the mailbox.
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Callalily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 03:50 PM
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10. After reading that article
I'm heading for the shower. What a bunch of poppycock!
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 04:11 PM
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14. Hey, World!! Stop using our oil!!
We'll have to invade Iran if you don't.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:03 PM
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16. world distracted, U.S. Trips Up Climate Agreement

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0708-01.htm

Published on Friday, July 8, 2005 by Inter Press Service

G-8 Summit: U.S. Trips Up Climate Agreement

by Sanjay Suri

GLENEAGLES, Scotland - The G8 countries remained divided over how to tackle global climate change at the end of their three-day summit here.

Those of us who have ratified the Kyoto Protocol welcome its entry into force and will work to make it a success,” the Group of Eight leaders said in their communiqué Friday. There were no marks for guessing that the United States was the odd one out.

But the agreement among the rest was also uncertain beyond the end of the first implementation period of the Kyoto Protocol 2008-2012. British Prime Minister Tony Blair has backed U.S. President George Bush on the need to look beyond Kyoto post-2012.

That can mean that at least the major developing countries could be required to make mandatory emissions cuts of the kind that the Kyoto Protocol requires of the industrialized countries that have ratified the agreement. By 2012 they are to curb climate-changing greenhouse gas emissions by an average of 5.2 percent from 1990 levels.

The communiqué -- much discussed and debated in the weeks and even final days leading up to the July 6-8 summit of the leaders of the eight most powerful industrialized nations (United States, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Russia and host Britain) -- was strong on agreements on principles, but fell far short of specific commitments.

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