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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:19 PM
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Heritage Foundation's Emailed This Load of Crap on the Brit Bombings:
The way I read it, today's backwards-day.

'This morning, a series of explosions struck London's subway system and a bus. According to early reports, a group calling itself "The Secret Organization of al-Qaeda in Europe" is claiming credit, saying that the blasts are retaliation for Britain's involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The British shouldn't take the bait. In a recent column, defense and homeland security expert James Carafano considered likely responses to another terror attack. It would be a mistake, he argues, to identify with the rationale that "we deserved it" for waging the war on terror.

"No nation is perfect, but our country strives to be a force for good in the world. Some may not like American politics or policy--or our pop music, for that matter--but nothing the United States has done justifies terrorist acts aimed against innocent people." The same can clearly be said for Britain.

Carafano also cautions that an attack is not evidence that we're on the wrong course. "In all wars we witness advances and setbacks, victories and casualties. Every incident is not a call for change."

As we mourn those killed in London, we must not forget that we are engaged in a just and long war. '

Can we help them feel some "just & long" DU love?

http://www.heritage.org/
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:21 PM
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1. Holy fuck...
"...but nothing the United States has done justifies terrorist acts aimed against innocent people."

:crazy:

Hello?
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Beaver Tail Donating Member (903 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:22 PM
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2. Guess the 100K or so
Edited on Thu Jul-07-05 12:22 PM by Beaver Tail
Innocent men women and children in Iraq don’t count?
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:22 PM
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3. Time for all able bodied Heritage Foundation members to join the army
Or stfu.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:23 PM
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4. Maybe they hate us for our bicycle-riding ballerinas...
Edited on Thu Jul-07-05 12:24 PM by IanDB1
Heritage Foundation VP arrested for assaulting bicyclist
washingtonpost.com

Convergence of Driver, Bicyclist Ends in Arrest

Bystanders Track Alleged Assailant

By Petula Dvorak
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, July 2, 2005; B01

It began as a shouting match on a busy Capitol Hill street corner during the frenetic morning commute, a bike-vs.-car incident not uncommon in a big city.

But then the silver-haired, retired Navy lieutenant got out of his car, approached the red-headed ballet dancer riding a bike and allegedly shoved her to the ground, authorities said. He got back into his car and, as bystanders followed him, drove down the block to his nearby office, the bicyclist said.

The man was identified as Ted E. Schelenski, 64, vice president for finance and operations at the Heritage Foundation, a think tank that promotes conservative policies. He pleaded not guilty this week to a charge of simple assault.

More:
http://www.infoshop.org/inews/article.php?story=20050703093653154

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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:05 PM
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16. damit - you beat me to it!
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getmeouttahere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:23 PM
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5. With thinking like this at the forefront....
civilization as we know it is doomed
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mazzarro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:24 PM
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6. These f**kers keep pushing their heads deeper into their a***s!
eom
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:25 PM
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7. War my arse. It's the police that are investigating
And it's been the police, internationally, that have caught people who have been responsible for terrorist bombings. The military significantly failed to catch bin Laden.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:26 PM
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8. infinite war for infinite profits
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:27 PM
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9. we are engaged in a just and long war? What's the 'and' there for? n/t
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:32 PM
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12. Good point. Let's end "Operation Just Because" now.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:29 PM
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10. nothing (we) have done justifies terrorist acts... against innocent people
:eyes:


But Iraq deserved our terrorist attacks on them?

LIARS!
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:30 PM
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11. "our country strives to be a force for good in the world"
Edited on Thu Jul-07-05 12:31 PM by MrBenchley
and that's why the GOP pissed all over the Geneva Convention and tortures prisoners at Abu Ghraib and Gitmo...in a pig's eye.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:32 PM
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13. "Just and long" is the phase that keeps the right always safe.
If you scale back troops in 10 years, you can always say it was never enough time to finish the job. You can never be wrong if you take the open-ended postion of how long it will take. This could be the next 100 Year War and then it may end too soon for the right.
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amjfv Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:35 PM
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14. This has nothing to do with the Brits deserving it or not...
...So long as they (and by extention we) have their hands in the middle east, so long as Al Quaeda et all consider it necessary to harm us in order to further their policy goals (a conclusion which is much easier to reach when we have thousands of troops in the region...) then the Brits (and Americans) will be terrorist targets.

If the right seriously believes (and I fear they do) that the 'terrorists' are attacking us because they're evil, rather than because the attacks further their policy goals, then we're only likely to make further blunders like the Iraq invasion that only encourages more terrorism against the first world.
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:37 PM
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15. "A just war"???? Modern warfare is terrorism.
In historical times, armies met on the battlefield and death and destruction was meted out upon a combatant "enemy". Now bombs are dropped from airplanes with napalm and other chemical agents being used -- and the victims are predominantly innocent civilians. Homes are invaded and innocent people dragged off to torture and death.

The killing of innocent civilians is, by definition, terrorism. We so nicely try to cover that up by calling it "collateral damage." But innocent non-combatants being killed in their homes, or taken from their homes, or driven from their homes, is terror. We're fighting terror with terror.

How blind can people be? How unenlightened. How un-Christian. How barbaric. How tragic.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:08 PM
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17. Bullshit!
What backward logic. Just keep doing what doesn't work. I believe that's the definition of insanity?!
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