After all, if I became an evil puppeteer who masterminded the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of innocent people so I could steal more money than twelve generations of my family could spend, then I'd say people should wish I was dead.
Or, you could look at it this way: If you are a young child in Iran and know that this monster is coming for you next, wouldn't you be relieved if he died? And wouldn't you dislike someone else who wanted to remain alive so he could kill you?
Karma is all perspective.
Disclaimer: these are hypotheticals discussed only because of the topic of this thread, and I in no way would endorse any attempts to bring harm to any member of that slimy gang of murderers.
44. how about this your are a young child in arkansaw and you
now have to defend with your life this chaney guy. you never new him and you never will but whats your take if your family is starving and the only thing you know is working for your so " called govermetn" ... make one thing alittle bit diferntly right.
get what he deserves in this life, before death. I would like to see him forced to answer grieving parents about the loss of their children, whether we're talking about parents of American soldiers or parents of killed Iraqis children.
I just clicked on the link "How the DLC Does It" in your sig, and it is most enlightening. I've always hated them, but I really didn't know the worst of it. Thank you.
As for hoping the Dick is Cheneyed the way he deserves, I don't care how it happens, just that it happens. For those feeling some liberal guilt about harboring ill will, try to remember that it is merely his karma--he Cheneyed us and we don't have to think kind thoughts. This is a guy who never had a kind thought in his sleazy life.
Indeed, any discomfort Cuckoobananas may be feeling at avalanching poll numbers and Cheney's incapacity, brings hope to the free world.
Not usually. Especially when it comes to sickness and death. I have been on the other side of the coin and its not fun. Granted, he isn't a wonderful politician and he has made some serious and inexcusable mistakes for this country. But I am sure his family and the ones who love him don't see him as anything other than a beloved father, friend, etc. That pain is very hard to deal with when a loved one is in the hospital. :)
families will suffer if he lives? He lied to start a war that killed 100K innocent people, and he is now aiming at Iran. That's a lot of suffering to look forward to for the sake of alleviating one family's suffering. For that matter, not even alleviating, just delaying, since he will die one day, anyway.
Not saying I want him to die, just playing counterpoint.
wished upon anyone is a good thing. Change? Keeping Cheney out of anymore political choices and not hurting anymore people? Yes! Absolutely. But I do think that those thoughts do come back to haunt us. Taking anyones life is not good, hence your point about the people that have already died because of his choices. I think its a never ending cycle. At some point we have to rise above the desire to just hurt and kill.
41. When Darth Vader left the dark side right before his death,
did you sit there thinking that it was too bad that he had a brief reconciliation with his son and didn't get what he deserved? I don't want to get caught up in Dick Cheney's bad karma. Of course, it's easier to be objective about events far, far away.
Of course it is wrong to wish death upon anyone. What does it even mean to have liberal values if you wish death upon your political adversaries? Think of the great liberals of the past century: Nelson Mandela, Martin Luther King, and Gandhi (your avatar)- what would they say?
Needless to say, most of us (including myself), are not nearly as noble as the men mentioned above; thus, it is understandable that your gut reaction is to want Cheaney to die. However, you probably shouldn't discuss your hope that he dies on the DU message board. Inevitably, it makes DU look bad - not just in the eyes of conservatives, but in the eyes of moderates, and those who believe that liberal values should be universal. John Conyers proudly attached his good name with the people of DU. He should not have to defend himself for aligning with a group which has members which say they hope that the vice president dies. This kind of talk makes DU look bad, and makes the politicians who align with DU look bad.
I understand that your intent was good and decent, in asking this question about an emotion that you cannot control. I really hope I don't sound like an asshole by giving such a negative response. I just really think that threads like these can do damage to the grassroots of the Democratic Party, and that's something we'd all like to avoid.
In light of the following forum guideline, I'm locking this thread.
Thanks for your consideration.
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