What's with the "kool aid" references by RWers about liberals?

[question everything]

Do they refer to the Jonestown suicide? Are they trying to say that we - who never overwhelmingly support any of our candidates the way the do, who rarely disagree on anything - just blindly follow our leaders?

If that is so, I guess the old saying of "it takes one to know one" holds for them.

(hey, I don't know what wonk means, either.. perhaps I need a jargon dictionary..)

[librechik]

1. they stole that line from us.

They don't ever have any origional ideas, you know. Then they follow Rove's Law: always accuse your enemy of what you yourself are guilty of.

[question everything]

5. Thank you. Will give me an ammunition

when I do happen to meander into a tunnel vision blog

[KarenS]

6. Exactly, it is called projection and they do it all the time!!! n/t

[KurtNYC]

12. They are very big on "owning the language"

which is why they cry over any vague nazi reference while Limbaugh spouts off about "femi-nazis" and "Hit-lary" with casual abandon.

Propaganda techniques: http://www.constitution.org/col/propaganda_army.htm

[Cleita]

13. Also, Rachel Maddow played two members of Congress

this morning (don't remember names) calling us Nazis. So she felt, how dare they ask Durbin to apologize for what they had done themselves.

[NuttyFluffers]

23. exactly. they are sad little monkeys indeed.

can't think their way out of a paper bag and then blame, project, and whine the whole time. they should be treated like the spoiled, misbehaving children they are. perhaps worse -- 5 min. time outs might not work. ;)

[shoelace414]

2. it's transference

since they are the kool-aid drinkers.. we are the unwashed treehuggers

[Warpy]

3. That label has stuck to them for so long that they're

trying to peel it off and get it to stick to us.

It won't work, of course. It's an old middle school tactic, which is where the right wingers are emotionally.

[Democrat 4 Ever]

10. Another case of revisionist "slang mongering" by the repugs

Ex - Nuclear Option - Constitutional Option.

They get tagged with something uncomplimentary and they think they can disavow any knowledge and pretend they were the original authors. Stealing is one of their best talents.

Repugs will always be associated with Kool Aid drinkers - blind followers of spurious "religious" beliefs at the detriment of their own best interest for no other means than to group control. I would not be surprised if Frist, DeLay and company didn't have a poster of Jim Jones in their cloakrooms.

[liberal N proud]

4. I worked the booth for our local Democratic club over weekend

we offered free water.
The water was free because we didn't want anyone to drink Kool-Aid, in reference to the Reich wingers

[aden_nak]

7. Wikipedia knows all.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koolaid

[Cleita]

14. The big difference is that when we use words and phrases

like fascist and drinkin kool-aid, we know what they mean.

[question everything]

19. And, since they like to use simple phrases like

"me Tarzan, you Jane," it is easy to mobilize the masses with simple phrases where they do not need to stop and think

[question everything]

17. Thanks. I need to make more use of wikipedia

though as a Macuser I did not appreciate that reference...

[aden_nak]

21. What reference? - EDIT - Oh, nevermind. Read that part.

[question everything]

20. While there, decided to search for wonk

Wonk

Wonk was originally a 1960s slang word applied to an excessively studious person (equivalent to "grind" or "nerd"). The origins of the term are obscure. It has been described as a simple reversal of "know," linked to an obscure Old English word, and attributed to Royal Navy slang for a learned but inexperienced midshipman.

"Policy wonk"--meaning someone both deeply knowledgeable about and fascinated by the details of government programs--entered general usage in the 1990s during the administration of U. S. president Bill Clinton. Admirers and detractors alike described the Clinton administration as a haven for policy wonks, Clinton and Vice-President Al Gore first among equals. Admirers saw Clinton's wonkish tendencies as a welcome change from what they regarded as the detached, ideologically driven leadership of Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush. Detractors believed that Clinton's obession with policy details caused him to lose sight of larger goals, and to spend valuable time agonizing over minutae that should have been left to staff members.

"Policy wonk" fell out of general usage after the election of George W. Bush to the presidency in 2000. Whether it will be revived to describe members of a future administration remains to be seen. However, the term was parodied by the blog Wonkette (which in style and substance is almost gleefully non-wonkish).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonk

[lady lib]

8. This is a much used strategy

of accusing the other side of whatever the other side is accusing you of. I think it's a tiresome tactic and I wish the Dems would come up with some creative retort to whenever they do this (and they do it often).

[Catrina]

11. Then the word

'moonbat' needs to be thrown back at them as it is their latest label for those who disagree with them.

But when I looked it up, I found it applies to them perfectly. Apparently it means someone who is out on the edge, an extremist eg.

I see no reason why we should not use the same 'strategery' and simply lob their own rhetoric right back at them.

[question everything]

22. Moonbat, indeed

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

Moonbat is a political epithet coined in 2002 by Perry de Havilland of "The Libertarian Samizdata," a libertarian weblog. It was originally a play on the last name of George Monbiot, a columnist for The Guardian, but now the term enjoys great currency in the libertarian blogosphere as an all-purpose insult for modern liberals, peace protestors, and other ideological opponents. It is similar to the epithets Feminazi or Idiotarian.

According to de Haviland, a moonbat is "someone on the extreme edge of whatever their -ism happens to be." Adriana Cronin defines the term as "someone who sacrifices sanity for the sake of consistency." This term has long been used to describe protesters on the political Left, and is sometimes used to describe protesters on the political Right, such as those protesting the Terri Schiavo case.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonbat

[lady lib]

25. Well then -

President Moonbat it is!

(That Wikipedia has such interesting articles :))

[formerrepuke]

9. It's B.S... We blindly follow no one... which is both a strength and

a weakness.

[ucmike]

15. karl's new stategy. "we're rubber, you're glue"

they're saying it now because it really bothers them when we say it. they don't get that it only hurts them cause its true.

that said, this will stick and they will use it on us, effectively. the o'liellys and limbaughs will plant it in the heads of the repeating drones. it will become the repeated mantra of those people who are easily influenced by the neocult mouthpieces.

[chalky]

16. Jeezus, don't they have an OUNCE of ORGINALITY??!!?

Obviously this was stolen from the left.

The kool-aid phrase is,in fact, a reference to those idiot sycophants of Jim Jones. They traded the "burdens" of "personal responsibility" and "making life decisions" for the luxury of having a a stern daddy figure who would hold their hands and manage their every move. They picked the wrong daddy, of course. Instead of being led to salvation, they found themselves holding a cup of poison-laced grape koolaid in one hand and a one way ticket to hell in the other.

Now….which group more closely resembles that cautionary tale, progressives or repugs? (Hint: baaaah, baaaah...)

[tanyev]

18. It doesn't really make sense applied to us.

Name one Dem leader that we are all blindly, unquestioningly following. On the other hand, someone who can continue to admire GWB as a strong, forceful leader must be drinking a daily dose of Karl Rove's special brew.

[KarenS]

24. you are so right on that!!

The Nazi/Hilter comments applied to the Dems during the "Election 2004" just didn't make sense either,,,,

They just call us 1) whatever we call them 2) the name of what they are doing,,,,

It makes me crazy!!!!

[alarcojon]

26. It's simple, really

They're idiots and it's much easier to dismiss someone as a Kool-aid drinker than to engage their arguments. I myself never feel the need to accuse the other side of drinking the Kool-aid - I just present my arguments, wait for them to call ne a Kool-aid drinker, laugh at their inanity, and move on.