Questions with Hagel

[FreedomAngel82]

I was very surprised that Hagel came out against Bush recently. I have read that he was against Iraq since 2003 so he could be more crediable to the public because of that and him being a republican. I was really surprised because Hagel is a twenty year something family friend of the Bush's and he was very close to becoming Bush's VP choice and his ties with ES&S and all of that. I have two question's with Hagel. They are:

1) Is he still running for his senate seat next year?

2) Does he have any ties to the Bilderberg group?

Thanks in advanced.

[Wetzelbill]

1. he's running for president

He'll try to be a McCain-like "straight-talk expresser". The Repuke crazies will take him out like yesterday's garbage too.

[LiberalAndProud]

2. Answer to question 2 appears to be -- yes

http://www.bilderberg.org/1999mins.htm

The forty-seventh Bilderberg Meeting was held at the Caesar Park Hotel Penha Longa, Sintra, Portugal, from June 3rd–6th 1999

Participants
United States of America Chuck Hagel Senator (Republican, Nebraska)

Agenda
II: The US Political Scene
Moderator: Jim Hoagland
Speakers: Evan Bayh

Christopher J. Dodd

Chuck Hagel
Page: 19

[FreedomAngel82]

3. Thanks

Very interesting. I wasn't sure if he was apart of them or not. This was the first thing that popped into my head though. I remember readinga post earlier this month someone posted from a Bilderberg meeting and a lot of them (too many) didn't want Bush to go to Iran because it wouldn't work out well and the troops are thinned etc. So could Bilderberg be sending Bush a message or could they be taking him down? My second thought was he was running for president and he knows the polls and if he wants to be the nominee he has to have support from the Bilderberg group.

[zalinda]

6. Okay, I guess I'm not a tin foil hatter

who, or what is Bilderberg?

zalinda

[FreedomAngel82]

8. Google

;)

[Mass]

4. Hagel is very internationalist and has never been fully aboard with Iraq

He more or less held the same position than Biden held and has been very critical of the handling of the war for a very long time.

He is not for reelection until 2008 and is seriously considering a run for president.

[FreedomAngel82]

9. Ah

So it could be both. I think he will be a serious challenger to Frist and McCain. I think if it was against the three of them Hagel will be the nominee. But would Bush come out in support of him? If he brings down Bush a lot of their base will be upset.

[Mass]

12. Hagel has not been fully on board in 2004 with Bush

On the contrary, he has never campaigned with him outside Nebraska and has criticized him strongly on TV even during the Republican Convention (where he was basically the only dissident voice).

I kind of doubt that Bush will support him. If anything, Hagel is on record wanting to move the party more to the center again.

If he runs, he will receive a strong opposition from the neo-cons (he has already been called a closet democrat in a profile in the American Conservative), and by the Christian Right (opposed the FMA as useless).

I consider him as a lot more maverick than McCain, who is only a maverick as political posturing.

Anyway, the insiders like George Allen, probably because he is as much an empty shell as Bush.

[sam sarrha]

5. i heard he has a big interest in the software company for Diebold..

he failed to report it..

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0301/S00166.htm

[FreedomAngel82]

10. Yep

When he first ran for senator in Nebraska they've never had a republican senator before. 80% of the votes in that race were counted on ES&S machine's which are connected by family relations to Diebold. He was once VERY close to becoming Bush's VP choice but instead it was Cheney. I've always thought it was so weird about Cheney being Bush's vp since Bush ran on a very conservative republican ticket being this "Christian" person and his VP choice had a gay daughter. :shrug:

[dogday]

7. The more Republicans become disillusioned with this administration

the sooner we can move forward with an investigation of DSM and the Administration's role in fixing the intelligence....

[Burried News]

11. Today they trotted out McCain (one more time)

Nary a mention of George Bush in the hour with Tim Russert.
Hagel, McCain - a kinder more thoughtful GOP.
Father's Day - Loving Fathers all. Duty Honor Country and 'All That Jazz'.
Whatever happened to the McCain who was going to retire? Now we hear about his 93 year old mother ... and McCain and Jebbie (as VP) in 2008.

Stay out of Dallas if you pair with these guys John. It ain't changed all that much in 33 years.

[Mass]

13. McCain is totally phony

He said today that Bush was a great president. He supports totally the war in Iraq.

Hagel is another type of person, while he is still a conservative republican.

[FreedomAngel82]

14. Yep

I think it's sad how McCain is whoring for Bush. I guess he wants the karma too. A lot of the freepers already don't like him cause of his compromise with the democrats.