Uplifting sign of the country waking up

[burythehatchet]

I went to go hit a bucket of golf balls today. (Beautiful day, 85 and sunny). The place I go to is inhabited by crusty old men who scratch a lot and talk shit all day long. This is their retirement. I know this place to be pretty conservative so I just go to hit a bucket and not chew the fat.

Today I'm walking in to get my bucket and I hear one dude telling another in his heavy southern drawl "did you see the thing on C-SPAN with this COnyers feller?" That's all I needed. I spent the next 45 minutes telling them about the petition, the work that's been going on for weeks, and so on. They had a lot of questions and I was able to fill in some gaps in their information. There were other people listening and chiming in. Out of the 6 or 7 people there NOT ONE defended Bushit. Not one. Even guys who by looking at them you know are Republicans were piling on. They didn't know how much Halliburton has stolen, as an example of information that they still don't have. When I started to walk away and start hitting golf balls...

...Here it comes.....

The guy I originally started talking to says "I think there's gonna be an impeachment".!!! EVERYONE ELSE WAS NODDING THEIR HEADS IN AGREEMENT.

I was floored...and then I was giddy...then I nailed 80 out of 90 golf swings.

[Larkspur]

1. What state are you in?

Good to see the sheeple waking up.

[burythehatchet]

8. Georgia - Atlanta just outside town towards very conservative burbs

[shance]

19. Son of a gun. Who would ever imagine hotlanta turning blue on us?

Thanks for the inspiring post.

I bet your drives were sailing across that fairway :)

[KeepItReal]

85. Get rid of PC voting and I think GA would be blue

...but what do I know...?

[Ladyinblack]

81. Kerry

Maybe I have missed something, but where is Kerry in all of this?

[susanna]

94. Humor me here...

Where is/was Kerry mentioned in the original post?

Non sequitur to me...

[Melodybe]

2. What an inspiring post, thanks for sharing!

[rodeodance]

68. yes--thanks so much. I needed this right now as I just read the post

about WH excising science reports in grazing rights (WH using their own science once again). This is helpful in keeping my blood pressure down.

[steve2470]

3. wow are you in Florida ??? nt

[Mythsaje]

4. Great story!

Good to hear the message is getting out there. Way to be on top of it.

[bigwillq]

5. That's great to hear!

:bounce: :hi:

[Quixote1818]

6. You just made my day! Time to go play a game of golf! nt

[burythehatchet]

10. hit em well

imagine the thief-in-chief's face on the ball. It works really well.

[dbeach]

7. nice job of educating the uninformed...

not a golfer BUT I am a boogey boarder..spreading the anti-bush
anti-neos stuff chest deep in the ocean..and I nail some pretty good surf while educating the masses

surprising sometimes when kids say good surfer and he really is a bad pres..

surfing to and through the apacolypse

[burythehatchet]

15. that's the funny part

(tragically funny, that is)
All these guys needed was to see some news and actually figure out why the right wing bullshit smells so bad.

[chalky]

9. drip, drip, drip....trickle, trickle, trickle...

splash, splash...roar, roar...look out, here comes a TSUNAMI!!

[dbeach]

23. be delighted with a tropical strom..

TS Karl kept it high for days
Hurrricaines of Aug-sept are pretty consistent

maybe DSM are a TS
and the Hurricaines of Aug- sept will really kick up the storms.

And a perfect storm TSUNAMI in OCT and all the villains are gone!!

[DemBones DemBones]

11. Wahoo!!! That is great to hear. I am also in

a conservative area in Georgia and will be so glad when my Republican friends finally see the light.

[reBel_gyrl]

24. Show them DemBones!

Way to go BuryTheHatchet, we need to get out and spread the knowledge! Too many people are content to sit and say "If only such and such would see the light" or "come around" or whatever, and not enough of us are hitting the road, so to speak, to make sure the info is readily available and widely spread. Not everyone listens to progressive talk radio! We have to take it upon ourselves to make the light so bright and blinding not even the intentionally blinded right can deny it!

[DemBones DemBones]

31. I try but some are very set in their ways and don't listen to

any information presented to them. They are dead certain that they are right about everything, all the way back to "Gore is trying to steal the election" by insisting on a recount in Florida.

[reBel_gyrl]

41. How frustrating that must be..

for you. My mom is a little like that, not convinced that she is right, but hard to inform. Anytime I try to fill her in on what's going on she thinks I am just "trying to depress" her. Keep on keepin on, we're all bound to get through to someone, some time..

[Melodybe]

44. I find a great way to break that Gore crap is to show them transcripts

of Gore's Meet the Press interview, where he said that he helped fund the "initiative that created the internet."

The media purposely misquoted him and called him a liar. Then tell them about Al Gore winning the Webby award for Lifetime achievement.

[I Have A Dream]

62. Yeah, I still have them snickering about "Gore invented the Internet".

The lies that were told by the right wing stay around forever it seems.

[bobbieinok]

75. some of my college students were saying 3-4 years later

that they couldn't trust Gore because he 'always lied'

[blm]

12. Just what needed to be heard.

Thanks, bury.

[KarenS]

13. For the first time in months, I am actually feeling a glimmer of hope,,,,

I am cautiously optimistic that perhaps this may stick to this Teflon Administration!!!

[hvn_nbr_2]

53. No such thing as a "Teflon president"...

There is no such thing as a Teflon president or a Teflon administration. There are only protected presidents and administrations. Protected by corp-media that refuse to tell the news or the truth.

[FredStembottom]

66. Remember Mr. Smith......

who went to Washington!
Re-watched that great old film lately and I had forgotten how much of the movie concerns a corrupt Press. Don't forget that Jeff Smith actually FAILS in his filibuster attempt due to press collusion to bury and distort the facts. And it works! Millions of telegrams of hostile criticism of Smith pour in just exactly as the press mogul James Taylor has designed it.

Wow! Talk about Deja-vu all over again!!!!!:wow:

[EC]

69. Just remember

when teflon is scratched, it becomes toxic, and stuff sticks...DSM was the scratch...

[FredStembottom]

88. What a perfect analogy! Can I borrow that?

n/t

[EC]

89. Sure... n/t

[obxhead]

14. I'm slowly starting to hear and see these changes in

Northern VA as well. Almost everyone in the company I work for voted bush and after a heated lunch break about DSM etc some are starting to say Impeach him now.
I'm also starting to see political involvement from a lot of friends that otherwise don't vote and don't care. Now they hear a blurb and call me for some details.

[WePurrsevere]

16. There truly is hope...

:yourock:
That's a great uplifting story and "recommended" because some folks here sure sound disheartened and maybe this will help a bit to raise their spirits. :)

[calimary]

56. ALL these stories are great!

I had to go to the Federal Building in downtown Long Beach (California) last week. On the way out, after I'd struck up a friendly conversation with one of the security guards at the security gate in front of the elevators, I spotted the photos of bush and cheney hanging on the wall. I pointed to them and said "I CANNOT wait until we REPLACE these..." with a nervous giggle. The security guard replied "a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTA people feel the SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME way."

Then, I told him about John Conyers and wrote down the website for him. He seemed interested... :evilgrin:

[WePurrsevere]

59. Absolutely "ALL" are :-)

Every person who hears about the DSM and other evidence will spread the word and MSM or not the Nation WILL hear about this. :woohoo:

[dave502d]

17. Great story, the word is getting out.n/t

[Amonester]

18. Good day! It seems their "awaking" could perhaps explain

THIS!!!!!(?????)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3877455#3886158

Yep. Kept growing steady all the way: 94~96% YES and 4~6% no (?)

It seems that, no matter how badly the csm wants to spin the DSM rally, the tide is turning, no matter what!

[steve2470]

20. FWIW: No one in the Orlando area gives me any static over my John Kerry

bumpersticker or my DU sticker. I was honestly afraid to put it on my bumper, for fear my car would get keyed or I would get harassed. Nothing at all.

[Coexist]

21. how amazing!

[KharmaTrain]

22. The Sensenbrenner Video Got A Lot Of Notice

I encountered a Repugnican acquaintence today and he made mention of the Conyers hearing and said "too bad they had to hold it in the men's room". I launched into him about how his beloved coven was doing this to hide the length and scope of the deceptions that have resulted in 1700 dead Americans with more on the way. I said, "If you don't want these guys to have died in vain...we either need to get a new Iraqi government in there and get out ASAP (he nodded in agreement), or we have to find out why we got there and whose responsible for creating this mess (he was ready to jump, but couldn't)...and what's more...not that we need to look back at how we were lied to about this invasion, but to see that the same people who screwed us then are still in charge now."

He then chimed in on how it was strange Sensenbrenner shut down the hearings...even if it was loaded with "peaceniks" (his words, not mine). I said, if there was nothing here, why not let these guys spew their stories, just like they did with the 9/11 Commission...say you held hearing and move on. Instead, Sensenbrenner creates a video soundbite that made even that wingnut cringe.

It's getting harder and harder for Repugnicans to square this invasion. You can see this by how quick they are to call you a "traitor" or seditious when you question this regime's actions. Also how they say we're hurting the troops by attempting to get the truth to them as to what they're really fighting about. Vietnam deja vu.

What's a real kicker was hearing the White House spin today that the corporate media just isn't getting enough of the their side of the events out. Huh? Haven't we been getting force fed their crap for 4 years now?

[smartvoter]

25. We need more stories like these!!! nt

[Blue_In_AK]

26. That is just fabulous...

And last night while walking through Wal-Mart (I know, I know -- my husband's dog will only eat Wal-Mart Old Roy dogfood, don't ask me why), we were discussing quite loudly the hearing, what an ass ** is, and how wonderful it would be to see Nuremberg-like trials all around, and nobody even looked at us funny, and the place was really crowded, so I know people could hear us.

[Blue Belle]

27. I'm surprised they watch C-Span...

but I'm glad they did. I'm glad they saw it. Everyone should.

I love hearing stories like this. It makes my day.

Thanks for posting.

[burythehatchet]

36. It was really funny that the old guy

watched the whole thing, but couldn't remember many names. When I would tell him someone's name like Joe Wilson he'd say "oh yeah, the one on the left", Bonifaz, "oh yeah the kid on the right, you know he's president of that organization"(:wow:). It was almost cute.

[Blue Belle]

50. That is so great.

To think that half the time I feel like we're talking to the walls - that people (repugs) only care if it's on Fox news. I am so happy to be proven wrong on this!

[streblin]

28. ain't it great when

things go the way they should. always look on the bright side of life and spread the word about BUSHIT !!!
:bounce:

[undeterred]

29. Awesome. You should call in to Mike Malloy tonight-

I bet he would love to hear it, being in Georgia himself.

[deadparrot]

30. I love hearing stories like this.

Gives me hope.

[kliljedahl]

32. I'd do that

But I don't look good in plaid.


Keith’s Barbeque Central

[H2O Man]

33. That's great!

I think it is important to remember that many "true" republicans -- the fiscal conservatives, for example -- are upset with what this administration is doing. The DSM coming out at about the same time Mark Felt did has brought to the American consciousness thoughts that only the democratic left dared to articulate last fall.

[burythehatchet]

38. That's a good point and I wonder if Felt and his family

chose to reveal their secret as a service to the country when it is most needed. Interesting indeed.

[H2O Man]

40. His daughter is an older hippie.

She was a member of a commune in the Watergate era. I think that there is a good chance that she was aware of the significance in the timing. It is interesting to remember that Felt was in intelligence circa WW2. He refered to many of the jackals in the Nixon administration as being Nazis. He was not joking. I assume that the family can see the connection today.

Interesting thread. Good work!

[EC]

72. Many of the * administration ARE the same jackels

Rummie, Wolfie, Chaney just to name a few, and PNAC are mostly old Nixon guys too...

[H2O Man]

77. Yes. Absolutely.

The implication is significant. More, I think that the generation of hippies -- beyond the member(s) of any one family -- are waking up. I do not mean those who have remained true to their consciences. We have a number of the true flower children/beautiful people here on DU. But there were others, who cut their hair, began to wear pin-stripes, and looked at their youth as a reckless period to keep secret from their children. In 1980, John Lennon died and Reagan took office, and they mistakenly believed the dream was over.

But now a nightmare is occuring. The worst type of creep from their generation has become president and vice president. The racial aggression of Vietnam has turned into a racial AND religious war. And maybe for a few years after 9-11, they accepted the lie. But then some of the lessons from the 1960s have revisited them in their daily lives.

Could this be the Ghost Dance that the shaman James D. Morrison sang of?

[hvn_nbr_2]

54. I've had that thought too

Also I've wondered if it's all the family or if maybe he is a bit more "still there" mentally than everyone is letting on.

[H2O Man]

78. A couple of the things

that he has apparently said have made me think he knows more about what is going on than the corporate media wants us to believe. My guess -- and it is only a guess -- would be that he has some periods that are better than others. I think that in the early morning and later evening, many people his age experience more confusion. But during the day, I'd like to know how sharp he is. We may be in for a few more surprises.

[donkeyotay]

34. Oh Georgia, eh?

When you said, "The place I go to is inhabited by crusty old men who scratch a lot and talk shit all day long." I thought, dang, that could be anywhere.
:)

[Rainscents]

35. Did you tell them to go online and do little investigating for them-self?

I would also added... This is all coming from "international" news!

It is very inspiring hearing story like yours! Thank you for sharing.

I had nice little experience my self today at Citgo gas station today. While I was standing filling gas, there were big lines and everyone had their windows down or out of the car... I start it by bitching about the price of gas and how much fucking corporate racking and ripping us poor and middle American's. They all node in agreement. I then, turn and said, BTW... I only by this gas "Citgo" and a guy asked me why, I told him, Citgo gas comes from Venezuela and all the money they collect, most of it goes to help feed the poor, educations and health-care! Venezuela don't let American corporate to pocket the money! You should had seen the look on people's face... they were shock! Anyway, a guy and others turn to me and said... from now on, they were only going to buy Citgo gas!
I left the gas station feeling really good about what I did!!!

[burythehatchet]

37. I would be shocked if these pensioners know how to use a computer

[Rainscents]

39. You be surprise... At least, they're watching C-Span!

:P

[FredStembottom]

67. This is true?

Can you steer me to some confirmation of this? I already use a Citgo near me because it has a good $2.59 car wash. I'll go there exclusively if it truly goes to Venezuela.

Thanks

[TorchTheWitch]

76. Sure is

Can you steer me to some confirmation of this?

Here ya go...

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0516-25.htm
<snip>
Of the top oil producing countries in the world, only one is a democracy with a president who was elected on a platform of using his nation's oil revenue to benefit the poor. The country is Venezuela. The President is Hugo Chavez. Call him "the Anti-Bush."

Citgo is a U.S. refining and marketing firm that is a wholly owned subsidiary of Venezuela's state-owned oil company. Money you pay to Citgo goes primarily to Venezuela -- not Saudi Arabia or the Middle East. There are 14,000 Citgo gas stations in the US. (Click here http://www.citgo.com/CITGOLocator/StoreLocator.jsp to find one near you.) By buying your gasoline at Citgo, you are contributing to the billions of dollars that Venezuela's democratic government is using to provide health care, literacy and education, and subsidized food for the majority of Venezuelans.

more...

[FredStembottom]

87. Thanks for this!

I am now exclusively locked in to my neighborhood Citgo!
It's nice to find small, helpful things to do on a daily basis.:)

[seabeyond]

42. I nailed 80 out of 90 golf swings.

you are cute burythehatchet

thank you for the story.

[burythehatchet]

45. heh..heh

:blush:

[demgurl]

43. Thanks for the story of encouragement.

That was wonderful. I hope the tides are truly turning.

[Renew Deal]

46. I think we are getting to a point where it's agreed that he's a loser.

I really am gettign the feeling that there is an agreement that Bush is a fuck up. I don't have to go nearly as far to make my points as I did in the past. It's just kind of understood. That's a good sign.

[tallahasseedem]

47. Thank You!!!!

You just made my night!

[burythehatchet]

48. your comment makes my night!

its been a good day overall!!

:)

[lotusblossom]

49. I'm feeling it too

Thanks for providing new evidence to what I have been feeling for the past couple of weeks. I know it will be a very slow awakening, but we have to start somewhere.

I also noticed when listening to CSPAN this morning, how most of the people, both Dems and Reps, were saying how we needed to get out of Iraq. People are definitely opening their eyes.

[BlueIris]

51. Holy shit.

That IS uplifting.

Side-note: I love you Georgia Dems. Y'all rock. Best, most passionate Democrat I ever knew? Georgian. Jimmy Carter? Georgian. Nice folks. Good liberals. But I'm sure you knew that.

[libertypirate]

52. You should post this as a comment on Conyers blog

[Arugula Latte]

55. When the "Bush is a fuck-up" theme is sounded at office coolers

and golf courses and grocery stores, then it is easier for more people to admit he's a disaster and thus convert even more people against him.

[burythehatchet]

57. The power of the mob

The mob is fickle.

[shraby]

58. Sounds good to me. n/t

[FreedomAngel82]

60. That's awesome!!

I'm sooo happy to hear this! Did you encourage them to write their reps?

[burythehatchet]

61. I was really enjoying the moment

and it didn't occur to me.

[Gold Metal Flake]

63. What group speaks for these older citizens?

Cuz if there is not one, we need one. What about it? Are they not looking for info? Where do they look for truth when the CM and the RW blowhards fail them? The net? Some, perhaps. The newspapers? Hah! The AARP?

I sense a massive political force in need of leadership and organization. Folks who have seen some shit and give a damn.

[w8liftinglady]

91. My patient-a former P.O.W.

...for 4 years during WW2-now a successful older gentleman-told me today that bush was as much of a war criminal as his captors,and needed to be tried in International court for crimes against humanity-for the murders of every Iraqi citizen that has died.The problem I have seen with the very elderly..80+-is that they are very impoverished and don't have a good network for information(the internet)...socially isolated.

[CatWoman]

64. I don't know. We shall see.

you see, every time I dared hope, these morons take it away from me.

I just left the Yahoo boards, and the vermin is out in force.

They will be the death of us all.

[burythehatchet]

65. I'm tellin you what you see on the Yahoo boards is spam

you know these fascists engage their little brownshirt college republicans to spam any site they can. Don't be misled.

[BlueIris]

70. That's a nice analogy with which to explain college republicans.

Undergrad neoncons=brownshits. Apt.

[nadinbrzezinski]

71. Yep I think it is starting to wake up

and the old folks yes they can see an impeachment when there should be one....

[Swamp Rat]

73. Sweeeeeeeeet!!!

:)

This made my night! :hug:

[ClayZ]

74. NICE!

I love that! Keep on watching!

[Tsiyu]

79. Good for you for seizing the moment

When they are ready to listen, after the steady dripping drives them to want to know the truth, we should all be as willing to instruct as you are, burythehatchet.

Timing is everything. You haven't been trying to reach them prior to this moment, which they would have only interpreted as "forcing your beliefs down our throats," so they were open to hear what you said without resorting to arguments they've used against you in the past.

Nobody can look at the state of things now and say there is anything positive in what our "leaders" are doing. And even the apathetic are weary of the extended vacation the MSM has taken.

Thanks for sharing. I know I dis Georgia all the time, but there are good Dems there fightin' the good fight...:yourock:

[FearofFutility]

80. I just got chills

The good kind! Thanks for sharing!:bounce:

[AmBlue]

82. WoW!!! That just gave me goosebumps!! n/t

[Jade Fox]

83. Good politics means good golf swing!

Excellent work, burythehatchet! Thank you.

[Chicago1]

84. You just made my day

Thank you for your story. This made my morning!!!

Waiting for the IMPEACHMENT WHILE THE SCANDALS KEEP UNFOLDING
America's Work Stories
http://usaworkstories.blogspot.com
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[Just Me]

86. That is an inspiring story.

Thanks for sharing it, burythehatchet! :hug:

People are waking up. They really are.

[meisje]

90. You're all delusional!!!

if you think there will be an impeachment

Quite sad really

[Caretha]

96. Why is it I don't think

you're being entirely genuine?

Could it be because of your snarky put down of people who are finally seeing the light at the end of the tunnel?

Most here on DU have been working non-stop for 5 years to help wake-up the sleeping masses. I'm not convinced that you have cornered the market on being the "all knowing" seer and can predict the future.

I've got news for you, when the public does "wake-up", and it will, the power is really in the hands of the people. That's what actually has this criminal gang of miscreants frightened, and why there is a 24/7 attempt to spin all news at all times. If they really thought they were "untouchable" they wouldn't be paying/pressuring/rigging every MSM outlet they can get their hands on to distort, spin and spew propaganda.

[Independent_Liberal]

92. The sleeping giant is awakening!

Peace guys.

:)

[SalmonChantedEvening]

93. What was once unthinkable, is now happening.

Up here in PA in-laws who I never thought would ever say word on against * talking down the patriot act, and wanting to know more about the DSM... it's wonderful isn't it?

Chimpeach NOW!!

[burythehatchet]

95. As one poster pointed out

we are all delusional. What s/he does not seem to grasp is that impeachment per se is practically irrelevant. What DSM has accomplished is a general confirmation to the masses that Bush is a liar. Then they will ask themsleves "if he lied about war, then what else is he lying about". The point being that Bush's credibility and "political capital" is gone, its history. As this occcurs, people in his own party will spit on him to save their own skins. Bottomline, whatever agenda the government had for stealing social security funds or other misguided programs, is toast. That in and of itself is a victory.

Think about this: Frist has made himself look like a lunatic, which he is. Delay has been emasculated. Bush's numbers are in a free fall. Without any leadership they wont know what to say or do.

[SalmonChantedEvening]

99. I am the delusional one then lol

My in-laws were not calling for it, I added that as my own little battle cry.

If we can get the house in 06 then impeachment becomes something Bush can truly fear: A real possibility. How that possibility plays out is indeed irrelevant. It's existence on the table is what needs to happen.


What amazes me is how many staunch Bush supporters from last summer and fall are now speaking openly about how awful his policies are, something they wouldn't have dreamed of saying aloud in 2003 and 04.

It's sad that they didn't then, but at the same time it's good to see them speaking without the fear of being labeled as UnMerkin that seemed to be present only 10 months ago. I guess the old patriotism canard isn't holding the same weight it did then. Victory over fear. A beautiful thing, no?

Frist and Delay now represent what the GOP truly are. Opportunists and Hypocrites. Another victory is that, as you said, people see it and are believing it.

[tabasco]

97. I have another sign. I wrote a letter to the editor of my local...

newspaper, called "The Republican" slamming Bush's rush to war and treatment of the military. This is a conservative area. I expected there to be massive retaliation from the reich-wing, with lots of hate letters in response to my facts. I got the weekly paper last Thursday and nada, not one impassioned freeper letter in support of Bush. Two weeks in a row now. But maybe it takes longer to scribe a letter with crayons.

But I was surprised that there were no hateful response letters.

[H2O Man]

98. Good sign!!!

First, it's great that you wrote the LTTE. I think that these are one of the most important forms of grass roots activism and educational outreach. (I started a thread on GD that discusses how the media refused to cover Mark Twain's anti-imperialism/foreign wars; as a response, he wrote numerous LTTE!)

Second, the fact that there were no right-wing, knee-jerk responses speaks rather loudly.

[burythehatchet]

100. The fact that people have stopped defending the thief-in-chief

is indeed a great sign.