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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 04:05 PM
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WTF? Anti-Lynching Legislation?
C-Span2, tonight, 6:30 PM, Anti-lynching legislation.

What one God's green earth are they talking about?
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 04:06 PM
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1. I really think it's about villifying the filibuster.
n/t
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pocket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 04:13 PM
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6. they'll probably throw Robert Byrd in there too
and get a twofer
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 04:25 PM
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9. Yup.
I wouldn't be surprised.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 04:06 PM
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2. Congress is voting to apologize for not passing anti-lynching legislation
Edited on Mon Jun-13-05 04:07 PM by jobycom
in the past. There's a thread somewhere on it from yesterday.

Found it: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1542031
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 04:07 PM
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3. The Senate made a formal apology today for
lynchings that happened in the past; I guess this must be how they're ending that ugly chapter in U.S. history.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 04:09 PM
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4. Well, a bunch of coward
After this long-waited bill, they cant even have a rollcall vote on that! I wonder who does not want his name in front of that!
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 04:11 PM
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5. Well, I'll Be Dipped In Pig Shit
Well, if they're in an aplogizin' mood why don't they outlaw the Confederate Battle Flag's display? That's something they should have done years ago too.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 04:17 PM
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7. This, and re-opening Till case is pure politics. See black voters, the GOP
really, REALLY cares about your issues. No democratic President or Congress pursued this legislation....only Republicans care.

See...it doesn't cost them that much lucre to put up these symbolic acts. But, just remember when Clinton tried to get just 19 million added to the budget for afterschool to midnight programs for inner city kids with working parents. The Republicans voted it down. They did manage to find 70 million to investigate a blowjob, however.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 04:24 PM
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8. This bill is carried by Democrats, as well as Republicans
Edited on Mon Jun-13-05 04:27 PM by Mass
Including Kennedy, Leahy, Boxer, Corzine , Lautenberg, Dayton, and many others ....

Of course, we can decide that the cause is not worth it, as clearly some think, but frankly, I was not expecting that here.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 04:28 PM
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12. The GOP only goes along with Dems when it benefits them politically.
They will always point out that it was a Republican congress who passed it.

I don't begrudge the bill at all, just the way the Republicans will spin it and they will SURELY spin it.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 04:32 PM
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14. Of course, so what!
Edited on Mon Jun-13-05 04:35 PM by Mass
At least, it is done. If you want to complain, complain about what is wrong with the way this bill is passed by some (voice-vote).

At least, Leahy has made a big deal of that before he spoke about Gitmo. I only wished that other Dems would do the same thing.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 05:10 PM
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24. Not complaining about the bill. Giving a heads up on how GOP intends using
Edited on Mon Jun-13-05 05:11 PM by blm
it because that's what many of us are here for - to interpret the opposition's intent and to act as a counter to GOP spin.

Is that something you really want to attack or label just as complaining?
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Kraklen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 04:27 PM
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10. They tried to pass anti-lynching legislation over 200 times...
between 1880 and 1952. None of them passed.

There were over 4,700 lynchings in that time period.

According to CNN.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 04:27 PM
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11. This really has to do with 9/11
and what's going to happen to Fearless Leader's administration when the people find out the truth. The're just trying to protect their slimy asses.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 04:30 PM
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13. ???
So, we should oppose this bill?

I feel sorry that some of my fellow DUers are so deep in their personnal world that they cant simply say this bill is overdue.

If anything, I think that we should be outraged that it is going to be voted on voice-vote, meaning that some people do not want being on record having voted it, not outraged that this bill is going to help Republicans.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 04:43 PM
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16. just so happy to find a channel without MJ on it..
Even Randi is talking about it..... sheesh.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 04:47 PM
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19. Please, there are so many threads on DU on the subject.\nt
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 05:01 PM
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21. In DC, it's legal to have a necktie party
since DC is not a State, it falls under Federal Jurisdiction. The reason it is a voice vote is those who have guilt over 9/11 might be seen as protecting themselves.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 05:03 PM
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22. Care to explain
I may be dense, but I dont follow.

My feeling is that some people do not want to vote it, but know they cant do otherwise, period. Doubt Lott sees this bill happily.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 05:08 PM
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23. So, murder is legal in D.C.?
Seems like murder laws would cover lynching. What am I missing here?
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 05:22 PM
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25. To intimidate the Barbarians
making it a federal crime to aid and abet or commit acts in furtherance of...Basically make anyone who watches or even remotely participates in one.

Murder is still a crime and those perpetrating the act would be guilty.
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Doodlesweaver Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 02:25 PM
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27. 100% agree!!!
I agree, CIA. We're hitting critical mass regarding people knowing about 9/11. I just pray to God they don't attack us again as a diversionary tactic.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 04:38 PM
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15. Well, Break Out The Brass Polish
I believe the word is 'archaic'.

Why don't they pass a law against unpolished Spittoons?

Isn't it clear that anyone and everyone with the exception of the lynched that is in anyway involved in a lynching, other than attempt to stop it, would be guilty of murder?

Has the law and its enforcement not evolved to the point where a law against murder by specific means is not required required?
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 04:44 PM
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17. May be you could read the bill
Not an anti-lynching bill. It is a bill to apologize for not having passed an anti-lynching bill before.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:s.res.00039:

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ISUGRADIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 03:06 PM
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28. No, it's not clear: historical context
lynching occurs in a state. bigoted local officials turn a blind eye. no one charged. fed effort to make lynching a FEDERAL crime. southern segragationists block effort for years.
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 04:46 PM
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18. I'm thrilled their revisiting the sins of the past and all
and would much prefer they were voting on legislation to give everyone 40 acres anda mule, but what does all this have to do with the price of tea in china today, or better yet, the Downing Street Memo?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 04:48 PM
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20. talking about being late.....
Goodness....

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Idioteque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 05:38 PM
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26. A little late eh?
I guess they wanted to wait until Zell Miller left so they could make it a unanimous vote :P.

It's going to be a voice vote though. That way Trent Lott can yell "no" without being on record.
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